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I'd pay a premium for good 2D platformers, like the upcoming Kirby: Return to Dreamland for Wii.
Also, did anyone really comment on how Shaddai wasn't worth $60 because of a few 2D platforming sections? That makes no sense - they sound like the best part of the game.
Also, did anyone really comment on how Shaddai wasn't worth $60 because of a few 2D platforming sections? That makes no sense - they sound like the best part of the game.
Kirby and Mario make mr say yes.
The 2D platform of El Shaddai parts sound like the only good parts of it anyway.
The 2D platform of El Shaddai parts sound like the only good parts of it anyway.
It's hard for me to rationalize paying $60 for any game on account that I have responsibilities and junk.
New Super Mario Bros Wii, Kirby's Epic Yarn, and Donkey Kong Country Returns were all worth paying full price for.
I argue any game can justify a $60 price. For myself, the value comes from innovation. For some, it comes from length or style of gameplay. I guess whether a game is worth its weight in gold depends highly on what the potential buyer values.
While the prices may be set by the publisher in accordance to some industry standard, the actual value to customers can vary wildly. I think this is an appropriate response by customers to only purchase those games they want at the price they feel captures its value to them.
Anyway, to the question: would I pay $60 dollars for a 2D platformer. The answer is yes. As I said, I love a game that innovates, so I would not just shell out $60 dollars for the next iteration of Ronald McDonald in HamBurgler Strikes Back.
While the prices may be set by the publisher in accordance to some industry standard, the actual value to customers can vary wildly. I think this is an appropriate response by customers to only purchase those games they want at the price they feel captures its value to them.
Anyway, to the question: would I pay $60 dollars for a 2D platformer. The answer is yes. As I said, I love a game that innovates, so I would not just shell out $60 dollars for the next iteration of Ronald McDonald in HamBurgler Strikes Back.
I've spent 60 bucks for 4 hours of story and god knows how little multiplayer on COD4 and MW2. So yes
I think Limbo was a steal at $15... and maybe, just maybe if it was on par with that and alot longer, I may consider it. But yeah, it's hard enough to pay $60 for a 3D game let alone a side scroller.
2D platformers are my favourite genre of game (possibly because of SMW being my all-time favourite game). That being said, there has been so many amazing ones for 10-15 dollars in recent years (shadow complex, outland etc), it would have to REALLY REALLY stand out, which admittedly is tough for the genre.
Sure. If I feel there's $60 worth of value in the game, I'm more than happy to pay for a 2D platformer. I paid $50 for Donkey Kong Country Returns & it was well worth it.
If the game is good, the game is good. By restricting it to 2d i find that delevopers can be more inventive without c ocking up big style. Only an idiot would refuse to pay good money for a good game based soley on whether they can move into the 3rd dimension or not.
Fuck yes I would. Shit, I might pay more than that to play a fully fleshed out 2D Castlevania game on a console, one that takes SotN and supersizes it. And pay more is the least of what I'd do to play a game like that.
Also, New DKC is the shit. Definitely worth full retail price.
Also, New DKC is the shit. Definitely worth full retail price.
I think a 2d platformer has the same value as any other game as long as the game is packed with alot of gameplay in it.
Yes I think I would. I was actually a little sad to not see more of it in El Shaddai because it was amazing! I think if there's a solid quality, good hours, and brilliant level design why not pay $60, especially if its visually pleasing like El Shaddai.
I would absolutely love to see more full 2D platformers on the market. Recently been playing Donkey Kong Country Returns and New Super Mario Bros Wii, so much fun.
Wasn't Little Big Planet a 2D platformer? Also, yes, as long as they can provide value and content beyond what I get from games like Super Meat Boy which are 15 dollars.
I wouldn't pay $60 for ANY game; I've played maybe, three or four games this entire console generation that I felt were worth the entire admission. As much as I love 2D Platformers, like most games of the Super Nintendo era, $50 is my limit. It wouldn't hurt to maybe drop them by $5-10, though.
Yeah, but not Sonic 2D games. Not because I think they're bad or anything, I just vastly enjoy 3D "Modern Sonic" levels more.
But yeah, I'll take two copies of Kirby's Epic Yarn.
But yeah, I'll take two copies of Kirby's Epic Yarn.
Also I believe if they made a new Metroid game in the classic style for $60, almost everybody would buy it.
It would have to be fucking amazing. Donkey Kong Country Returns almost got me at $50 but I would rather have it portable.
I think you can never waste money on a good game, be it shooters, platformers, or even dating sims.
A good game is just that: A good game.
It's not dependent on its price, cover art, special editions, etc...
Those things don't make the game a game; Prices will drop, cover art will fade, and knick-nacks such as those night vision googles and inFamous backpack will collect dust, but the memories of the game will last forever.
A good game is just that: A good game.
It's not dependent on its price, cover art, special editions, etc...
Those things don't make the game a game; Prices will drop, cover art will fade, and knick-nacks such as those night vision googles and inFamous backpack will collect dust, but the memories of the game will last forever.
Probably not.
A). I don't like platformers all that much.
B). I rarely pay $60 for ANY game. Most games I want, I'm patient enough to wait until they hit $40, which usually takes about a month.
Value is relative to how much disposable income you have. I have very little to spend on games, so I'm careful with my budget. The one DAY ONE games I buy are those where I know I'm going to get my money's worth. The Fallout games have been worth every penny, for example, as I'm STILL playing New Vegas. Borderlands 2 will likely be a day one purchase, as I spent hundreds of hours on the original.
Other than that, I'm content with waiting until the price drops.
A). I don't like platformers all that much.
B). I rarely pay $60 for ANY game. Most games I want, I'm patient enough to wait until they hit $40, which usually takes about a month.
Value is relative to how much disposable income you have. I have very little to spend on games, so I'm careful with my budget. The one DAY ONE games I buy are those where I know I'm going to get my money's worth. The Fallout games have been worth every penny, for example, as I'm STILL playing New Vegas. Borderlands 2 will likely be a day one purchase, as I spent hundreds of hours on the original.
Other than that, I'm content with waiting until the price drops.
I pay for entertainment - whether it's 2d or 3d doesn't matter. I gladly paid full price for Donkey Kong Country Returns and New Super Mario Bros on the Wii and their both excellent platformers. I'm gonna buy Kirby's Epic Yarn this fall too.
Saying that 2d games can't provide you with anything that 3d games can provide you with and that 2d games therefore need to be cheaper is pure bullocks. It's just a f*cked up argument.
Saying that 2d games can't provide you with anything that 3d games can provide you with and that 2d games therefore need to be cheaper is pure bullocks. It's just a f*cked up argument.
Absolutely. If they offered up a console Castlevania along the lines of SoTN, I'd take the offer in a heartbeat. It all depends on the content of the game and the amount of work that went into it.
Yeah, but not Sonic 2D games. Not because I think they're bad or anything, I just vastly enjoy 3D "Modern Sonic" levels more.
But yeah, I'll take two copies of Kirby's Epic Yarn.
But yeah, I'll take two copies of Kirby's Epic Yarn.
If there is something this generation of consoles misses it's 2D platformers so the answer is hell yeah! Only the Wii has some decent 2D platformers that aren't downloadable and too short sadly.
I recently bought a Sega Saturn because I miss old school games and have been happy to pay decent money for 2D platformers like Astal, Shinobi Legions and Clockwork Knight 1 & 2. I also bought a Sega Genesis not too long ago and I'm having a blast with a bunch of Disney platformers while looking forward to Dark Souls on the PS3 (beat Demon's Souls 6 times so don't call me a casual gamer for loving Disney platform games!).
I'm keeping a close eye on Rayman this fall and I hope more developers can find their way back to the 2D roots eventually. With me paying a premium price for premium 2D platformers.
I recently bought a Sega Saturn because I miss old school games and have been happy to pay decent money for 2D platformers like Astal, Shinobi Legions and Clockwork Knight 1 & 2. I also bought a Sega Genesis not too long ago and I'm having a blast with a bunch of Disney platformers while looking forward to Dark Souls on the PS3 (beat Demon's Souls 6 times so don't call me a casual gamer for loving Disney platform games!).
I'm keeping a close eye on Rayman this fall and I hope more developers can find their way back to the 2D roots eventually. With me paying a premium price for premium 2D platformers.
I'll pay $60 (or its equivalent here in Britain) for a good game, regardless of the genre/gameplay style.
Length and replay value would, however, be appreciated.
Length and replay value would, however, be appreciated.
Only if we had to re-live 1993 again. Then yeah, otherwise. No.
Just like I won't pay $60 for a CoD expansion every year.
Just like I won't pay $60 for a CoD expansion every year.
If it is REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY good, why not?
I wouldn't and never do pay $60 for any game. I wait for the price to come down. As far as 2D platformers go, yes, I would pay as mich as I do with other games if the content in the package warrants it. Same as with any game.
Paid 40 bucks for El Shaddai and I'm extremely satisfied so far. However, I don't think it's worth 60 bucks for other reasons. The story is told poorly, there are some annoying design choices and a few glitches that ruin the experience.
The 2D platforming is actually one of the better parts of the game. 3D platforming struggles and combat is fun but isn't precise enough and leads to a lot of mistakes that shouldn't happen.
If the game had a bit more polish it'd be worth 60 bucks to me, but when getting an achievement causes my game to freeze for 2 seconds every time I kill an enemy, have an enemy spawn, pick up a weapon or sometimes mid-jump (causing me to die most of the time), it makes me glad I didn't pay full price.
Other than that the game is friggin beautiful. And weird. Oh so very weird.
The 2D platforming is actually one of the better parts of the game. 3D platforming struggles and combat is fun but isn't precise enough and leads to a lot of mistakes that shouldn't happen.
If the game had a bit more polish it'd be worth 60 bucks to me, but when getting an achievement causes my game to freeze for 2 seconds every time I kill an enemy, have an enemy spawn, pick up a weapon or sometimes mid-jump (causing me to die most of the time), it makes me glad I didn't pay full price.
Other than that the game is friggin beautiful. And weird. Oh so very weird.
Limbo was a great 2d platformer. I would have payed full price for that. DK, Mario, Kirby, and the Raving Rabbid 3ds game. These games are always a blast to play.
It all depends on the game and how well it seems to be made. If its a thrown together trashy game, then no, of course not. But the same could be said for ANY game this generation (or any generation for that matter), so its not limited to the 2D platformer. Its all first impressions and implied value today, and for El Shaddai it seems like some people don't believe that values there. (and if I didn't know anything about the game, and was shown just that header image, I'd question it myself.)
As for "This has confirmed a fear I've had that there's just no respect for classic platformers anymore, no matter how much time, effort and content went into them." I honestly don't think this is the case at all, people do respect those games greatly, as you'll always find them on a list of some of the best games ever.. The problem is that there's rarely a company outside of Nintendo willing to give players that kind of (quality) experience any more.. The disrespect all comes from, and is fostered by, all the parts of the industry that won't take a step back and see that these games CAN SELL because they're fun, and all we really want, at the core of everything, IS fun.
As for "This has confirmed a fear I've had that there's just no respect for classic platformers anymore, no matter how much time, effort and content went into them." I honestly don't think this is the case at all, people do respect those games greatly, as you'll always find them on a list of some of the best games ever.. The problem is that there's rarely a company outside of Nintendo willing to give players that kind of (quality) experience any more.. The disrespect all comes from, and is fostered by, all the parts of the industry that won't take a step back and see that these games CAN SELL because they're fun, and all we really want, at the core of everything, IS fun.
Why wouldn't I? As long as theres enough content to support the price tag and its a good game, I'll get it.
my cap for games is 40€ so no but I am willing to pay full PC price(which is about 33/38€ if you order online).
The problem isn't the value of 2D platformers but rather the whacked-out pricing scheme of games in general. I look at a game like 'Splosion Man and would have happily paid more for it, and then look at something like El Shaddai that shouldn't have retailed for $60.
My relative poverty and the Triple A mindset of the game industry worries me. Every time publishers whine about difficulties launching new IPs, I cringe. The problem is pricing. Sequels are a known commodity that I'm willing to pay for. I think about something like Batman: AA, which I was initially hesitant about. When Amazon had a deal near launch that dropped the game to $45, I grabbed it and now I'm more than willing to pay full price for the sequel. Games should earn a premium pricetag. That's maybe the one thing Nintendo gets right these days...
My relative poverty and the Triple A mindset of the game industry worries me. Every time publishers whine about difficulties launching new IPs, I cringe. The problem is pricing. Sequels are a known commodity that I'm willing to pay for. I think about something like Batman: AA, which I was initially hesitant about. When Amazon had a deal near launch that dropped the game to $45, I grabbed it and now I'm more than willing to pay full price for the sequel. Games should earn a premium pricetag. That's maybe the one thing Nintendo gets right these days...
Well considering I've bought Kirby's Epic Yarn, NSMB: Wii, and DKCR in the past couple years, I'd say definitely yes! I'd treat it like any other genre I like: If it's good enough and has enough content (it doesn't have to be long), I'll buy it.
For me, $60 is too much for just about any game, but if it's a question of whether a 2D platformer can be worth the same amount as any other contemporary game, well the answer is a blaring yes. Case in point: DKC Returns. Absolutely phenomenal game that is easily worth more than the majority of HD titles.
2D Platformers are fun games and great time-wasters, but I wouldn't consider paying $60 for it if it was solely a platformer (think Catherine, it's not 'solely a puzzle-game'). Their replayability has almost become a reason the genre has stagnated; I'd rather replay SMB for the 50th time for free than shell out for a fresh experience simply for the fact that I know, even if it's better, it's probably not 60-dollars better.
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