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The Podcastle records tomorrow: Survival Horror and New York chicanery photo

This week, two thirds of The Podcastle's cast will be race traitors, as Wardrox is currently festering in New York. Only Atheistium is keeping the British end up for this episode, but luckily we should have plenty to talk about.

Among other things, Wardrox went to see Evasive Space, and a writer from The Guardian personally called me out. Also, Atheistium has probably been playing Fable III, so we'll be talking about that. 

As always, we need questions and comments from our loyal listeners, but since we don't have any loyal listeners, you lot will have to do. The show records tomorrow at the usual time, so fire away!








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KamikazeTutor's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/16/2008 14:24
KamikazeTutor
Notice how he wrote:

"Jim Sterling at Destructoid has written a truly heartfelt piece claiming that the survival horror genre has evolved itself into distinction."
eternalplayer2345's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/16/2008 14:33
eternalplayer2345
I'm a stupid graphics whore and can't bring myself to play SH2 with its muddy graphix plz shoot me in my head!
Funky Goodness's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/16/2008 14:33
Funky Goodness
Are any of you interested in Tatsunoko vs Capcom or Dissidia:Final Fantasy, or is that just a Retroforce obsession topic?

I've already got TvC ordered from Play Asia and the wait is fucking killing me. It's been said to be better than Street Fighter IV so you can imagine the sheer anticipation spasms some people must be having...
garison's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/16/2008 14:36
garison
Atheistium:

Why are you such a bitch on Xbox Live?
Visc's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/16/2008 14:46
Visc
Jim: Why did you say that Silent Hill Origins was the scariest one on some Podtoid aaaaaages ago? What was it that made it the scariest?
grafkhun's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/16/2008 14:54
grafkhun
How is Fable III?
ScottyG's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/16/2008 14:55
ScottyG
Wardrox: Just how awesome are games with that feature dinosaurs? ^_^

Jim: Fix your smoke alarm yet, or must we continue to fear for your safety? :(

Athiestium: Tomb Raider Underworld: buy, or just rent over the holidays? Keep in mind what I thought of Legend.
Phalanxxx's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/16/2008 15:06
Phalanxxx
All; do you lament the fact that survival horror has evolved itself away, or do you welcome the new jumpy shooters? Do you think a horror game with a believable reason that under no circumstances fight would be a move forward?

Atheistium: woot for the homeland
's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/16/2008 15:15
Clint
Here's my limmerick for this week; entitled and about Eternal Darkness.

Dim the lights and start the game
What comes next will cause me shame
"Save file corrupted"
My fears erupted
Next to this Resi is tame

And my question: What moment in a survival horror game scared you the most? It can be a pure "Boo!" moment like the Zombie Dog in resi, or more psychological like the prison in Silent Hill 2, or some combination of the two, like the aforementioned fake memory card corruption in Eternal Darkness.

Also Wardrox, Dinosaur King Papercraft?

Senisan's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/16/2008 15:19
Senisan
Thoughts on parasite eve, would you consider this a survival horror rpg? I mean...its got survival, it got horror and its got rpg.
Wexx's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/16/2008 15:20
Wexx
FABLE III? WHAT THE FUCK SHE'S FROM THE FUTURE!


Do any of you care about Madworld/have a Wii? Speculation on it from you lot would be pretty cool.
SetoChaos's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/16/2008 15:25
SetoChaos
Hi Jim, damn you for moving to the USA. Now I'll never have the chance of going to the craptacular Play.com Live event and meeting you. That event sucked. Also, I have a request. Can you say Girders = Cheese Yosh as loud as possible. Thanks.
Wedge's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/16/2008 15:28
Wedge
Lololol "Destuctoid"
Dowd99's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/16/2008 15:38
Dowd99
First off I have to say that I love the podcast, I just started listening a week or so ago and I've been catching up on the back episodes.

Jim: Since you've moved to the states have you gotten to see any crazy southern Christians? (Speaking in tongues type stuff)

Wardrox: Just want to let you know that I am actually considering picking up Dinosaur King...

Atheistium: I noticed in a past podcast that said something about wishing you were asian, is that because you like the asian people as a whole or is it to explain all of the spunk on your face?


And now for the serious question...
All: Somehow out of all of the gaming sites that I visit I have somehow decided that you three are the most reliable reviewers/ have opinions that are closest to mine. Currently I own a Wii, a Xbob360 and a 37' HDTV. I've been trying to decide whether or not a PS3 seems like a wise investment. I watch a lot of movies (I have about 300 DVDs) and I don't currently have a blu-ray player. So the main question is "Does the PS3 have a strong enough games library to make me want to pay $400" and also on a side note "Do you ever see Sony releasing a firmware update that will somehow put backwards compatibility into newer consoles, I have 2 PS2s and I am disgusted by how they look on a HDTV"

Thanks for any suggestions
falinter's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/16/2008 15:40
falinter
Aw How I love Eternal Darkness.

Or at least the memory of it. I don't know how well it plays now-a-days. Thoughts?
tornotlukin's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/16/2008 15:41
tornotlukin
Welcome to NYC Wardrox. If you are into arcades try Barcade in Brooklyn. It has video games for the gamer in you and alcohol for the British in you!

Q:
When you play horror video game does it actually scare you?
Mikular's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/16/2008 15:51
Mikular
O hai thar, I have a question about video game development, ish:
I'm sort of ish trying to get into game development, so I need some feedback on my ideas. First off, would any of you be interested in an FPS called "TriMangle"? The name struck me in a boring maths class about a year back and a tale of epic proportions unfolded before my eyes. It features triangular robots. Opinions would be helpful.
Mikular's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/16/2008 15:53
Mikular
Additionally, I would also like to apologise for my lack of avatar Jim, but I don't actually know how to get one, it was never made clear.
Mr Wrighty 987's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/16/2008 15:57
Mr Wrighty 987
best part of SH2 jim
Half left's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/16/2008 16:00
Half left
Who'd win in a fight: NGcast or podcastle.

Fighting dirty is encouraged (no biting though).
pendelton21's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/16/2008 16:10
pendelton21
It's exam week for most of us kids here in the states. Can you give us university students any kinds words or tips so that we can survive on no sleep, coffee, highlighter fumes, and Ramen?

Also, can you answer the question your picture has posed? Where, exactly, did the hole go?
greeneggsnsam's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/16/2008 16:14
greeneggsnsam
Have any of you noticed that one of the (few) initial hairstyles in Home can only be described as "Wardrox's hair"?

Also, since this will likely be the last Podcastke of the year, can we get your Games of the Year?
Puppy Licks's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/16/2008 16:17
Puppy Licks
Hey guys what did you have for breakfast this morning? I had a Muffin and orange juice. It was delicious.
player66's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/16/2008 16:23
player66
Please talk about how "survival horror" has splintered into many sub-genres since it's early days (Resident Evil, Alone in the Dark; the not shit one).
xdarkxwarriorx's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/16/2008 17:20
xdarkxwarriorx
ok, so i read both of the articles about the survival horror genre, and i cant help but agree with the person at the guardian a bit (wait! wait! dont flame me, hear me out). i think that in one sense, jim is right. the evolution of the genre has taken the game into a different, more mainstream direction. but at the same time, its the natural progression of any genre to have doors closed on certain aspects of the gameplay (metroid is a good example).

here is my question: jim, do you not see this as an inevitable step forward (and not the final step) in the survival horror genre? you may argue that it is not a step forward due to the lack of effectiveness of the game based on the intent of the game (to scare people), but in my opinion it is a necessary progression of the genre. sure it is a turning point (and might even be a hiccup in the effectiveness of the gameplay), but for every genre of every medium of art, each advancement, while it does limit the medium in some ways, eventually results in new and creative ways to reinterpret the medium.

for example: sound design is one huge door that i believe will be opened in the coming years in terms of the survival horror genre, and could be a substitution for restrictive camera angles. also, lighting has been a big part of the development of re5 (according to the devs). do you think that such advances are the possible substitutes for the old-school techniques, or do you think that such techniques are irreplaceable?

sorry for the long post.
RaiRed's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/16/2008 17:39
RaiRed
Anyone have a survival-horror game they really like/love, but no-one else seems to have played or liked?

Such as, Rule of Rose, Haunting Ground, Clock Tower, ect.
Prof Doctor's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/16/2008 17:59
Prof Doctor
In your opinion(s) what makes an effective survival horror game?
TrailerParkJesus's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/16/2008 18:25
TrailerParkJesus
Atheistium, how did you become such an industry insider? What kind of filthy things do I have to do to Trixie360 in order to get the same kind of clout that you have with AceyBongos? I mean, I want events invites, free swag, and piggy back rides from MS too.
Clance's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/16/2008 18:26
Clance
One each today you sexy lot.

Atheistium: What two weapons would you choose to carry during a zombie crisis? I'd go for the old pump action shotgun and sniper rifle routine.
Wardrox: Is Resistance 2 your game of the year? If not, what is?
Jim: What is the local drinking scene like over there?

Love ya
snotrocket's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/16/2008 18:42
snotrocket
What about the survival horror that Jim lives every day? The infernal racket the smoke alarm makes every 15 seconds and how he has learned to tune it out. The horror if there was a fire he would die in a fire, literally.

When I invite the ability to punch through the internet, you will be the first victim Mr. Sterling.
n3rv3's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/16/2008 19:26
n3rv3
recently I remember reading an article it was probably written Jim about how the survival horror is making them selves extinct what does Jim and Wardrox think about this?
also negative gamer is an awesome site!
CodenameV's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/16/2008 19:32
CodenameV
Jim Sterling you limey FUCK! I WILL BURN YOUR HOUSE TO THE GROUND! I'M TALKING SCORCHED EARTH MOTHERFUCKER. I WILL FUCK YOU UP!

If you don't fix your smoke detector. :)
Ballistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/16/2008 20:23
Ballistic
After listening to the podcastle for a short while, I've come to think that Wardrox's patterns of speech would make him the perfect candidate for the voice of a Muppet. This is not an insult, I just think everyone should imagine a Muppet version of Wardrox, arms flailing, felt mohawk flopping, and tell me I'm not crazy that it would not be the most hilarious thing ever.
ScreamingScarab's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/16/2008 22:28
ScreamingScarab
Jim: As an avid Silent Hill fan, would you recommend Homecoming to other Silent Hill fans? I really have heard disappointing things about this new one and I would really rather wait for it to come down in price. Also, does the new game still have the sirens in it?
smurfee mcgee's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/16/2008 22:35
smurfee mcgee
Most horrifying game of 2008?
thomasa's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/16/2008 23:17
thomasa
First, let me get the controversy out of the way; Silent Hill 2 is not incredibly perfectly amazing. In all honesty, it hasn't aged very well at all (considering it has only been out a few years). That said, the narrative is incredibly gripping, and deeply disturbing. The enemy designs are unique, interesting, and bone chilling. The characters (even if they are voice acted horribly) are twisted, confused, and human. In terms of narrative, it IS a fantastic piece. But thats where the positives end.

The gameplay is aged and archaic, and frustrating.

I understand the argument that James Sunderland is NOT an NRA-card-holding-rocket-launcher-wielding action hero, and I am very happy he isn't. But the gameplay, you know, the part you actually play, is centered around 2 aspects; exploration, and combat. Those are your only 2 interactions with the environment, aside from some random mind teaser. Exploration is relatively easy, but can get frustrating. It retains that Resident Evil "tank" movement.

I would strongly argue that the game puts you in more combat than most people say. Pretty much any enemy will become enough of a nuisance every time you backtrack through the room, you end up fighting the damn thing anyways.

The combat is a joke. It isn't scary, it never was scary. You press the button until it dies. Thats IT. With the numerous forced boss battles, your only interaction with them is run run run shoot/stab run run run shoot/stab. I understand the horror and tension in being a realistic, fighting human being (aka, not Rambo) , but in all reality, clunky and annoying controls are a poor way to create this effect!

The story is amazing, but if silent hill 2 is just gonna be rewarded on great narrative, it has no business being a video game. Make it a brilliant CG movie, a fantastic graphic novel, or a great book!

With that said, I have to appreciate what the new team tried with the franchise. Every game up until Homecoming was essentially the same gameplay mechanic, but with different (good) stories. Like I said, if your not gonna try to improve the actual gameplay part, don't bother making it a video game in the first place! All the new team was trying to do was actually elaborate and create a gameplay experience that was just as polished as the story it tried to tell. While it may not of been perfect, It was a respectable effort, and hopefully they can learn from there mistakes if they make another entry in the series.

In conclusion, it isn't that technology has killed survival horror. Its just that as we refine and deepen the mechanics of what makes a "video game", we have to rediscover what works. Many of the "horror elements" that made games scary are more or less products of their current limitations, and creating a game around them would be a step back in my opinion. We just need patience and tolerance, until we find what makes games scary NOW, and create a truly horrifying experience in the forward movement of the medium.
ParaParaKing's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/17/2008 04:07
ParaParaKing
Will Konami continue making exploiting Silent Hill games like Origins or Homecoming?

Also did anybody of you play Siren:Blood Curse or its PS2 prequels?
PenKaizen's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/17/2008 12:15
PenKaizen
Could Wardrox assemble of team of Mancunians and tackle a zombie/horror-creature horde with success in a survival horror type setting?

Im a Manc and I would happily join that mob.
Dragonzigg's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/17/2008 12:37
Dragonzigg
Who's right about Prince of Persia, Nick Chester or Reverend Anthony (hint - it's Nick)
junglistgamer's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/20/2008 03:17
junglistgamer
penakizen, i'm also mancunian and i doubt we'd do well in a zombie apocalypse because you'd get such bad heartburn trying to run away from zombies with a belly full of pies and bitter. The only way would be to exploit natural mancunian car-stealing skills and drive over the bastards.
PenKaizen's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/20/2008 15:51
PenKaizen
Surely we could make molotov cocktails out of stolen bottles of bodingtons?
mat787's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/20/2008 18:03
mat787
where the hell is the podcastle?
PenKaizen's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/21/2008 08:12
PenKaizen
I need my fix of PAWDCASSUL
OrgunDonor's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/22/2008 14:26
OrgunDonor
Imagine if you will, a young man into a hobby of epic proportions, filling his mind with fantastic stories, relieving him from the stresses of everyday life,teaching him how to use weapons and promoting the rape and murder of prostitutes, topped of with a little bit of a "bi-weekly" show from detructoid. Only this young man isn't so happy ad the moment, because although he feels he is ready to "pop a cap in yo'r ass!", he is missing his topping(imagine hundreds and thousands if you will) of the podcastle.. you can see him now sat in the corner rocking back and forth with tears in his ears mumbling - "Why Jim..... why have you left me so unfulfilled for so long!!! I MISS YOU!!!"

Dear Lord Jim, save this man please, only you can help him!!!
regua's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/23/2008 08:18
regua
Have you ever seen any Left4Dead porn?

I can provide you with links if you want.
BRP's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/02/2009 20:15
BRP
Horror games could survive if they start to move away for just rehashing old ideas such as Silent hill style monsters/ Vampires/Werewolfs/Zombies. If the creators took the time to read something instead of Lovecraft and tried some more up to date horror writers like Neil Gainman, also trying different techniques in sound as well as visuals it could carve itslef a more secure niche. At the moment it is being devoured by other game types, a trend that might not fix itself except with bedroom developers.
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