What happens when two of the biggest egos in games media lock horns in a head-on debate over Grand Theft Auto? Two of the most outspoken men in the games violence hysteria will draw their lines and discuss the mother of all interactive hot potatoes -- Grand Theft Auto IV.
This week's episode is, as you guessed, all about the Grand Theft Auto series and its controversial history. The usual crew of myself (Jim Sterling), Wardrox and Atheistium will be joined by community member Insomnia to share the years of Hari Krishna roadkill and prostitute savagery that we have come to know and love.
And yes folks, you read that right -- in a special one-on-one confrontation, Jack Thompson has agreed to step foot inside The Podcastle and share his views on the Grand Theft Auto series. I intend to ask Jack exactly why he is so tenacious on the issue of game violence and what, exactly, he wants to change. The debate has never been anything more than one-sided, whichever side of the fence reports. Now, for the first time, both sides will have their chance to speak and discuss.
It's Sterling. It's Thompson. It's only on The Podcastle -- Live (except pre-recorded actually) on Destructoid.com!
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Who do you have impersonating him? This can't be correct.
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Also what is JT's favourite colour?
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...although I expect it not to be fucked up and condensed into 7 minutes or so.
I am looking forward to this so much. Oh, and please no GTAIV spoilers.
04/29/2008 18:20
Anyways, I really hope this doesn't end badly... Either way, it'll make for a great podcast. ^_^
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Say what now?
04/29/2008 18:40
I'll believe it when I hear it.
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04/29/2008 18:53
He attacks Bully but Gears of War, probably the most violent game I have ever played, was completely ignored. I think Jack just has some vendetta against Take Two.
You should definitely say my name to see how he reacts.
Actually now that I think about it that would probably be a bad idea because he would most likely stalk me.
04/29/2008 18:54
It really doesn't matter how professional this debate is held. It will go nowhere. Thompson could probably be diagnosed as being clinically insane...no joke. No matter what you say to him his opinions won't change. Like Chop said, it's essentially just feeding a Troll because the guy keeps getting the attention he wants.
04/29/2008 18:56
Now gents lets keep it clean, above the waist and for the love of god wear some underwear.
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I'll definitely be tuning in, even though I hardly ever listen to podcasts.
04/29/2008 19:06
Ah well, I shall see how it plays out - hopefully it goes maturely and professionally. And I hope that it ends up as a great debate over the topics and that I can actually hear Jack's thoughts on the matter without having "e-tard" or some childish BS tossed in..
A side note. If Jack starts with all that e-tard crap - then I will have officially lost all respect I ever had for the man attempting to give his word. If he does that, then do feel free to call him a douchebag imo... On the opposite side. If you are acting like a prick - I think he also has equal right to call you a douchebag. I hope it doesn't come to that. All i'm saying is keep it professional on both ends =)
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Also...
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Just curious, but why isn't this happening on Podtoid? I would've thought that Rev, Tiff, Linde, and Jim would be the more logical, powerful line-up to take on Jack - no offense to atheistium or wardrox.
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Still... I can dream
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DESTRUCTOID.COM & THE PODCASTLE ARE PROUD TO PRESENT:
An epic battle royale featuring two of the video game industry's most passionate, outspoken individuals, and moderated by...some guy.
SIR JIM STERLING vs. JACK THOMPSON, ESQ.
SPARKS WILL FLY!!!
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I will echo what Dexter and a few others have said to please be careful what you say. I would say this to anybody speaking with him because we need to look our best. This isn't anything personal against you guys specifically ^_^
Has Mr. Thompson thought about looking at "good" games, ones that are family or teen friendly that could put a positive image on the video game industry? Games like Super Mario Galaxy, or Guitar Hero, for example. Ones that gamers love but aren't super bloody. Even puzzle games or games that bring people together, like Uno on Live Arcade or Wii Sports. There are some gamers like myself who are adults but don't always enjoy ultra violent games (I do have some M rated titles, but many more E and T in my library).
04/29/2008 20:13
JK.
Go Team Sterling!
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he wasn't lying
04/29/2008 20:40
In all seriousness though, try to get him to say what games he does like and think is acceptable. He is probably going to say some Barbie horse adventure crap.
Crush 'Em Sterling
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And could you try and explain all the legal shite that happened over who owned the GTA name.
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PS remember my name please
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also
I agree with Leviticus' theory, it makes more scene that people with violent urges would search for an outlet to vent on before acting out their aggression for real.
@Jack Thompson
(probably been asked before), what was your first encounter with video games and when did you decide to start you campaign agents them?
@Sharpless
My money is on that it's going to be the best trainwreck ever
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But like wardox, to be honest, Iam a little bit scared.
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My bet is on the rickroll.
04/29/2008 22:42
Are you 4 realz?
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04/30/2008 00:59
What is Jack Thompson's favorite Pokemon?
Is WiiFit a horrible invention that will corrupt the minds of our young ones and make children anorexic?
Can Jack lick his elbow?
Is judgement day near?
If I intend to murder a group of innocent children, what weapon would you advise me to use?
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Rip this hypocritical douche a new asshole.
that is all
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Whats the point in blaming videogames for violence, when there's obviously some deeper causes that makes people do criminal acts?
Most European countries, Canada and Australia is exposed to just as much violent content as in the US. But our crime rates are far lower! Now why is that?
- Low poverty levels?
- Top notch FREE psychiatric (and also medical) healthcare?
- Good (also free) education?
- Far more humane treatment of prisoners?
Your call...
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I also hope he turns up/picks up the phone.
Nice one Jim :D
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Then just scream GOURANGA!! at the top of your lungs for the rest of the show.
I'm so excited.
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Question for Jack:
"if games were only sold to over 18s and it was VERY restricted. Then it would be in their own home the parent had control but they couldnt buy a game for them, (i dunno how it would work...) would you let us play?
(If not fuck off and die to put it bluntly)
Qs:
"Have we any hope in the UK now the Minster of Prime is involved?"
"Why can't we see sex in games, i dont particuallary find it sexual just funny and if we can have graphic violence why cant we have graphic sex?"
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I do have a question though, especially after the talk of Rock Band after last week's show. What in general do Europeans (or at least people in the UK) pay for games, and what do you you realistically think you should be paying?
It kind of sounds like I'm having a go at you, but I swear I'm not. I've just heard some different messages about it and want a clearer picture. :)
04/30/2008 07:04
I have no questions that wont be covered in the general course of the conversation, although I propose that Jim conducts the whole podcast as Liquid Snake for pure comedic effect.
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w8 I need some popcorn.. :D
amusement time :)
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I can understand JT wanting to keep certain games out of the hands of kids (this needs to be tightened up in America, like it has been in U.K/europe), its just the way he goes about it, by painting all games black which is wrong. Its not that simple.
I can hardly wait, go get him Jim. Just don't mention the hentai games, otherwise he'll try going after them too.
What I'd like Jim to ask him is:
Does he understand games are for all ages, not just the kids?
Is he capable of thinking without such a 'fire and brimstone' view, because I think its this old school church thinking clouds his judgement, as much as it also spurs him?
Wouldn't it be better for him to educate parents, in a fair and just way about games, if he wants them to not buy adult games for their kids, instead of what he's actually doing?
Why does he hate Rockstar so much, when they create games for mainly an adult audience of aging gamers?
The consumption of games is now larger than films, but does he agree that sex and violence sells to the masses, regardless of media?
If so, why does he not rag on other violent media, like books and films, besides games?
Why does he think sex in games is a probl to em, when films and books have also been free to depict such themes, and a freely available to all?
Does he think adults should give up their rights for the sake children?
Does he think the church is out of step with modern society in general, games included?
If a child walks into a retail store to buy a game like GTA4 and is rightly refused by the staff, what does he suggest a sales person do, besides warning the parent, when the parent of said child returns to buy the game for them? (I really want to know his answer, as its parents and their attitudes that are the problem, the very people he should be criticising but neglects to.
Has he played Brain Training etc, and does he acknowledge some games are positive? (Trauma Center included there too.
Hope they'll be of some help to you, Jim.
04/30/2008 08:58
but then personal opinion aside, can jim keep those see you next tuesdays under control XD.
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The tools for understanding the ratings are readily available. And they aren't nearly as ambiguous as MPAA ratings...M games are like R rated movies, so would GTA:SA really been for the kids in spite of the 'Hot Coffee' incident?
Thanks Jim.
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imagine beating him by rational debate.
then you can rub it in his face for all eternity.
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