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Makes sense, though the "Hero of time is defeated" line is a bit confusing for me since I haven't played much of the games in it. I guess the "Sealing War" implies that Ganondorf was sealed by the Sages, but Link himself did not defeat him.
Wait wait wait .... I see no entry for the most crucial Zelda game of them all Zelda Wand of Gamalon for the CDi. Obviously there is some massive conspiracy at play to the ends that this key piece of zelda lore is overlooked as so no one learns the truth!
The Sacred Realm is a Lie!
The Sacred Realm is a Lie!
Even if I cared about Zelda, a timeline would not be important to me.
Why can't they just be self contained stories
Why can't they just be self contained stories
@Corduroy Turtle
No way man, we need a game that explains Majora's Mask origins. I can't die happy unless such a game is made.
No way man, we need a game that explains Majora's Mask origins. I can't die happy unless such a game is made.
Its ... like the tri force ... we shouldn't have this power ... we shouldn't know ...WE SHOULDN'T KNOW
That makes a lot more sense. Especially if you put child era on top of adult, which makes MORE sense.
So, they should continue the series with a new 'A New World' story, since Hyrule is supposedly reborn according to the timeline.
So, they should continue the series with a new 'A New World' story, since Hyrule is supposedly reborn according to the timeline.
I like it. A lot. I figured some of it out during my Zelda quest this year, and after piecing it together, it makes sense.
However, I think this will take away from the magic of future games. It almost feels like they have to explicitly say where every game fits now when releasing it. I think they should have waited (like they planned to).
@J03
As another commenter brilliantly brought up - it's not that you "don't finish OoT". It's when you actually go INTO the future (1), you leave the "present" (2) behind to fail. When you come BACK from the future at the end of OoT, you actually come into a DIFFERENT past (3).
If you recall, at the end, you come back into the child era with having never met Zelda (or gathered for instance, the Goron's Ruby, as a child).
However, I think this will take away from the magic of future games. It almost feels like they have to explicitly say where every game fits now when releasing it. I think they should have waited (like they planned to).
@J03
As another commenter brilliantly brought up - it's not that you "don't finish OoT". It's when you actually go INTO the future (1), you leave the "present" (2) behind to fail. When you come BACK from the future at the end of OoT, you actually come into a DIFFERENT past (3).
If you recall, at the end, you come back into the child era with having never met Zelda (or gathered for instance, the Goron's Ruby, as a child).
Still doesn't particularly explain how every "Hyrule" has completely different geographies and landmarks, or how Ganon has been "resurrected" 20 times, but I don't think it even needs to. If you ask me, it'd be a lot better (and simpler) if they didn't try to maintain this sort of timeline for the Zelda games.
Just let each game be their own thing, you know? "Old legends passed down through the ages" so various details have gotten altered through countless retellings, or something.
Just let each game be their own thing, you know? "Old legends passed down through the ages" so various details have gotten altered through countless retellings, or something.
This entire article must be an elaborate joke, because it was written by Jim Sterling and I don't see any sarcasm in it at all!
Good one, Jimbo! You almost got us this time. Making up crazy names for all the different ages in Zelda's history was a nice touch, but you slipped up by being too dead-fucking-serious in your writing.
Good one, Jimbo! You almost got us this time. Making up crazy names for all the different ages in Zelda's history was a nice touch, but you slipped up by being too dead-fucking-serious in your writing.
Like I said for this to work some shit has to get retconned.
It's impossible otherwise.
So basically I'm more interested in a retcon list
It's impossible otherwise.
So basically I'm more interested in a retcon list
I never understood why there was such a big deal made about this, all the Zelda games I have played have been pretty average because my eyes aren't tinted with nostalgia.
What sort of hint was anyone ever given in the "Hero of Time Defeated" timeline that the Hero Of Time was defeated?
@Zantetsuken
I'm about to rock your world!
There are... check this out... people who played the games for the first time in the past few years who LOVE them. I know, right? I was surprised too!
I'm about to rock your world!
There are... check this out... people who played the games for the first time in the past few years who LOVE them. I know, right? I was surprised too!
Funny how Link's Awakening is my favourite of the franchise by far. Yet it's the most irrelevant in the timeline, or in terms of traditional plot arc.
@Taerdin I see a comment from you on almost Every single Zelda-related post. If you care so little, stop leaving comments about it. It's bringing me down.
@Zan
Link to the Past is one of the most polished games of all time. Many industry greats can attest to this. Your youth is showing.
Link to the Past is one of the most polished games of all time. Many industry greats can attest to this. Your youth is showing.
"Funny how Link's Awakening is my favourite of the franchise by far."
Haha, me too. I loved that game. The rest always felt like there was too much "fluff" between exciting areas, Link's Awakening was just like BAM GO! I guess the "small" scale of the gameboy forced them to condense the world, which might be why I liked it *shrugs*
Haha, me too. I loved that game. The rest always felt like there was too much "fluff" between exciting areas, Link's Awakening was just like BAM GO! I guess the "small" scale of the gameboy forced them to condense the world, which might be why I liked it *shrugs*
What ever happened to the old saying "if it ain't broke don't fix it?" This timeline they've whipped up is a mess. Zelda has no need of timelines damn it!
Whatever, if this helps them in terms of storyline from here on then I guess this is a good thing.
All I know is I've beaten just about every Zelda game and I was fine with them being (what I thought were) self contained adventures.
I don't really care either way. I play Zelda for the overall gameplay experience, the story (while not bad) is just kind of secondary to me.
All I know is I've beaten just about every Zelda game and I was fine with them being (what I thought were) self contained adventures.
I don't really care either way. I play Zelda for the overall gameplay experience, the story (while not bad) is just kind of secondary to me.
Oh goody, the GOOD Zelda titles (LttP, LA, and AoL) are bundled together nicely in the same timeline.
when the hero of time was defeated he went to a dark realm of horrors, which is where the CDi stuff happened...
Still doesn't touch the Castlevania timeline which has so many caveats that it continually breaks rules established in earlier games.
@ScottyG
"Oh goody, the GOOD Zelda titles (LttP, LA, and AoL)"
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The "Hero of Time is defeated" one is simple. If you go back in time to use the song of storms which you couldn't know as a kid if you lived normally, the future is changed. Thus, when Link returns to the future, it is not the same future, and the future where he learned the song of storms is never explored by Link again. Thus, Ganon had to be sealed.
I'm not going to be like some Zelda fans who are fine accepting two timelines from the Ocarina split but not three timelines, because reasons. This timeline generally makes sense, and minor details aren't that important when you consider artistic license. My only minor complaints are that there's no definitive placement for the Interloper War (Twilight Princess), which had to have happened before the "brief" period of time of Ocarina and Twilight Princess and couldn't be the Hyrule Unification War.
Now my question is if they'll make some "Crisis on Infinite Hyrules" and tie those three timelines back together in some future game. Could be something to think about, considering that they "supposedly" want to take Zelda in a new direction.
Now my question is if they'll make some "Crisis on Infinite Hyrules" and tie those three timelines back together in some future game. Could be something to think about, considering that they "supposedly" want to take Zelda in a new direction.
For a series where each game's story is essentially the same, does this even matter?
Who plays Zelda for story anyway?
Who plays Zelda for story anyway?
@Bob Muir
They could easily make a Zelda game where Link travels between those 3 dimensions and somehow combines them. Even make it so each has a different visual style.
Like Spiderman, but good.
They could easily make a Zelda game where Link travels between those 3 dimensions and somehow combines them. Even make it so each has a different visual style.
Like Spiderman, but good.
Head asplode.
But seriously...when do we reach a timeline where Zelda games no longer require gimmicky touchscreen or motion controls?
Ehhhhhh? Huh?
But seriously...when do we reach a timeline where Zelda games no longer require gimmicky touchscreen or motion controls?
Ehhhhhh? Huh?
Maybe we can finally play as someone BESIDES Link for a change? Keep Zelda around or the sake of the name or, good heavens, make -her- the hero (not counting the CDi travesties).
To everyone saying things like "it doesn't fit", "it's so confusing" or "is a mess", you could at the very least elaborate on what makes it so, instead of just saying that.
I, personally, find it pretty easy to follow.
I, personally, find it pretty easy to follow.
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