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GTA4 felt like a hollow, empty San Andreas directed by some big movie cheese. Am I going to condemn you for liking it? No, because that's your taste in games.
However, some of us WANT to strip naked and launch our hot dog car full of my underlings off an elevated rail, crushing whomever may be underneath.
I'm really, really glad these two went off in their own separate directions.
However, some of us WANT to strip naked and launch our hot dog car full of my underlings off an elevated rail, crushing whomever may be underneath.
I'm really, really glad these two went off in their own separate directions.
... I liked GTA IV.
Expecting GTA IV to have all the things that are appearing in GTA V now would have been like expecting GTA3 to have everything San Andreas did.
They had to build the engine from the ground up. You can't just flip the jetski switch. You have to model the jetski, design the physics, etc.
Expecting GTA IV to have all the things that are appearing in GTA V now would have been like expecting GTA3 to have everything San Andreas did.
They had to build the engine from the ground up. You can't just flip the jetski switch. You have to model the jetski, design the physics, etc.
I wasn't disappointed with GTA IV due to thematic elements, I mostly just couldn't stand the mission structure. There was too much and not enough of it was warranted or quality. The story also fell apart after 10 hours when Niko complained about killing people, but his missions never offered an alternative.
I hate Niko Bellic as a character. He's hypocritical and the story is poorly told. I like what Rockstar was trying to do with the game and I think they did a much better job with Red Dead Redemption on the character end. I'd like to see them improve on Redemption and make it even better. I love the SR3 level of insanity, but I do think there is some room for a more serious open-world game that explores other things.
"Shameless scarface references" Nope! Now they've moved on to shameless Sopranos and Heat references! LOLZ! Think there will be some Breaking Bad references too? How about The Wire?
"Infantile" Yes, silly and fun is now infantile. Sure. There's no effort in being sublimely ridiculous. Nobody deserves any respect for working in THAT sorry branch of LCD comedy. Fie!
"Rockstar has grown up over the years." WTF? This is what passes for grown up now? A pot-pourri of the usual post 70's crime movie scenes ? A sophisticated artist only steals the "Right" stuff and then puts it in a blender?
"Both protagonists had a strong moral compasses and a desire to do the right thing...just like Niko Bellik!" Again, WTF? Niko talked about doing the right thing a lot and then totally DIDN'T and people around him paid for it. He IS a sociopath and a monster! Hello! He just makes lame excuses about it.
" Intellectually engaging stories " Cool story bro! Wank wank wank! Do I kill Playboy X or Dwayne? (Jeopardy final round music)
Yes, Rockstar (at least for GTA IV) pretty much lost their balls. They gave us a stripped down game (compared o the predecessor). They were less ambitious. They gave us less. Then they polished the presentation a little and received accolades who at one time gushed about GTA IV having an Oscar calibre story! LOl!
Playing to the vanity of the 'video-games are art' crowd, who think they are playing a subversive and sophisticated game that goes where no game has gone before, and teaches them deep truths about the immigrant experience in an American port city modeled on New York, and the human condition and shit, by cribbing bits from the last twenty years of crime films, and takes regular gratuitous pisses on the word "Republican" is the diametric opposite of ballsy.
The critics were all: "Hey dude! I saw those HBO crime movies too! Bro-fist bro! Finally a game for MY towering voracious intellect! Hah! Celebrity poker on ESPN! Awesome! Britney Spears and Paris Hilton jokes! OMG! How do they do it! This is really moving games forward! "
GTA IV was just a lot of clumsy PANDERING to a few pseudo-academic posers who fancy themselves egg heads and who didn't make it all the way through the publishing industry to where they could write about sports, performing arts, movies, culture, or music and instead got stuck writing about video games.
And lets blow away some of the smoke while we still can.
'BEEG AMERKIN TEEDIES KOSS-EEN' is still pretty juvenile just like the TV and the radio, and the cabaret. So is driving into a wall at high speed and seeing the word "smoked" and walking out of the hospital with some cash gone. Toning the crassness down and reducing amount of fun stuff to do was artistically brave?
LOL. Whatever!
"Infantile" Yes, silly and fun is now infantile. Sure. There's no effort in being sublimely ridiculous. Nobody deserves any respect for working in THAT sorry branch of LCD comedy. Fie!
"Rockstar has grown up over the years." WTF? This is what passes for grown up now? A pot-pourri of the usual post 70's crime movie scenes ? A sophisticated artist only steals the "Right" stuff and then puts it in a blender?
"Both protagonists had a strong moral compasses and a desire to do the right thing...just like Niko Bellik!" Again, WTF? Niko talked about doing the right thing a lot and then totally DIDN'T and people around him paid for it. He IS a sociopath and a monster! Hello! He just makes lame excuses about it.
" Intellectually engaging stories " Cool story bro! Wank wank wank! Do I kill Playboy X or Dwayne? (Jeopardy final round music)
Yes, Rockstar (at least for GTA IV) pretty much lost their balls. They gave us a stripped down game (compared o the predecessor). They were less ambitious. They gave us less. Then they polished the presentation a little and received accolades who at one time gushed about GTA IV having an Oscar calibre story! LOl!
Playing to the vanity of the 'video-games are art' crowd, who think they are playing a subversive and sophisticated game that goes where no game has gone before, and teaches them deep truths about the immigrant experience in an American port city modeled on New York, and the human condition and shit, by cribbing bits from the last twenty years of crime films, and takes regular gratuitous pisses on the word "Republican" is the diametric opposite of ballsy.
The critics were all: "Hey dude! I saw those HBO crime movies too! Bro-fist bro! Finally a game for MY towering voracious intellect! Hah! Celebrity poker on ESPN! Awesome! Britney Spears and Paris Hilton jokes! OMG! How do they do it! This is really moving games forward! "
GTA IV was just a lot of clumsy PANDERING to a few pseudo-academic posers who fancy themselves egg heads and who didn't make it all the way through the publishing industry to where they could write about sports, performing arts, movies, culture, or music and instead got stuck writing about video games.
And lets blow away some of the smoke while we still can.
'BEEG AMERKIN TEEDIES KOSS-EEN' is still pretty juvenile just like the TV and the radio, and the cabaret. So is driving into a wall at high speed and seeing the word "smoked" and walking out of the hospital with some cash gone. Toning the crassness down and reducing amount of fun stuff to do was artistically brave?
LOL. Whatever!
GTA is ballsier because Sam Houser is taking his series in the direction HE wants instead of pandering to John Q. Dumbass with unlockable dildo-swords and Terra Patrick.
I agree with Elsa about her female protagonist comment. I would very much like to hear the angry shouts of "What the FUCK?!" or "I'm gonna fucking tear your head off!!!" from a criminal lady's mouth. Plus I always preferred female protagonists over males for their aesthetic appeal as well as more intriguing stories. Badass females like Samus ftw!
As long as the Hydra jet is back along with a jetpack, the ability to duel wield small arms, and a silenced pistol, I don't care if the game is pants shittingly hilarious or slicing the tension in the air with a blade hardcore.
I just want what San Andreas had in terms of technical awesomeness. Every GTA ever and even Red Dead Redemption have the same ending. When you have done every story mission and every side mission, killed every special person and robbed every story bank or train, all that's left is what was programmed at the core. The gunplay, the vehicles and their capabilities, the locations with epic views/geography, and the NPC interaction. What more is there to do when you have 100%? Simple, random, chaos. SA allowed us to fly a VTOL Jet anywhere and land on any skyscraper. SA allowed you to lock on to targets and had crosshairs for manual as well as the ability to full stop your heli. IV just has 2 kinds of helicopters only one with a weapon and the worst aiming system ever. In IV, the skyscrapers are not particularly fun to land on due to the lack of shit to do once there.
This is why Just Cause 2 is one of my favorite sandbox games. Just 2 abilities make everything fun; the grappling hook and the infinite detachable gliding parachutes. Anything is possible with those 2 things.
I know I will enjoy the game just like all the previous entries, I just love the extra spark that San Andreas and Just Cause 2 have with their variety and insanity.
As long as the Hydra jet is back along with a jetpack, the ability to duel wield small arms, and a silenced pistol, I don't care if the game is pants shittingly hilarious or slicing the tension in the air with a blade hardcore.
I just want what San Andreas had in terms of technical awesomeness. Every GTA ever and even Red Dead Redemption have the same ending. When you have done every story mission and every side mission, killed every special person and robbed every story bank or train, all that's left is what was programmed at the core. The gunplay, the vehicles and their capabilities, the locations with epic views/geography, and the NPC interaction. What more is there to do when you have 100%? Simple, random, chaos. SA allowed us to fly a VTOL Jet anywhere and land on any skyscraper. SA allowed you to lock on to targets and had crosshairs for manual as well as the ability to full stop your heli. IV just has 2 kinds of helicopters only one with a weapon and the worst aiming system ever. In IV, the skyscrapers are not particularly fun to land on due to the lack of shit to do once there.
This is why Just Cause 2 is one of my favorite sandbox games. Just 2 abilities make everything fun; the grappling hook and the infinite detachable gliding parachutes. Anything is possible with those 2 things.
I know I will enjoy the game just like all the previous entries, I just love the extra spark that San Andreas and Just Cause 2 have with their variety and insanity.
GTA isn't controversial anymore TO THE RIGHT PEOPLE: that is, the gamer. I want to play a game that makes me squirm.
"Toning the crassness down and reducing amount of fun stuff to do was artistically brave? " FUCKIN A. This guy sums up everything that was wrong with GTA4. Who gives a shit if their balls dropped. The game wasn't fucking fun. I don't care how realistic the driving is, if I'm doing it for 75% of the god damn game, it better be really fun.... almost all of the missions devolved into "Drive here, Kill everyone, Drive there". but even the ones that didn't fall back on this same basic formula were so few and far between, that the game seemed boring in comparison to SA or VC.
It will be better than Saints Row. Volition has always had decent concepts, but sub-par execution. Rockstar is very consistent, and the crazy shit they put in the games feels more substantial compared to Saints Row's "DILDO WHORE ZOMBIE REALITY SHOW NAKED ROBOT GANGSTER ADVENTURE XDXD" The gameplay in Saints Row is sloppy, and entire series feels lazy
The last two seconds made me smile deep in a place that I thought was dead long ago. Thank you, Jim.
i don't get why some don't want a more serious down to earth gta, with characters that are actually somewhat relatable. and yeah if i want to play a game that is just ridiculous in every sense, saints row is right there for me. so yeah, i agree Jim...i agree.
All I want is a better looking,smarter, modern and bigger SA...maybe with different protagonists but that's about it.
Did it betray the fun factor? Yeah, I'd say so.
Story is cool but please at least give us more then ever rather then taking shit away.
Story is cool but please at least give us more then ever rather then taking shit away.
I didn't see any problem with GTA IV. It was the same, tongue in cheek, story heavy gangster drama any GTA Game was. It had the usual critics about Society in it and is still to date the most sophisticated Open World Series out there.
GTA never was like Saints Row, Saints Row is pure fun and action, GTA always was a little bit more serious, with puns at politics etc. in it. Of course Saints Row has some too, but they are so overblown that anyone would laugh ;)
In the end of the day, it's GTA for serious and SR for ballsy. Oh, and talking about balls, SR let you controll a female gangster. Rockstar never gets that much balls. :D
GTA never was like Saints Row, Saints Row is pure fun and action, GTA always was a little bit more serious, with puns at politics etc. in it. Of course Saints Row has some too, but they are so overblown that anyone would laugh ;)
In the end of the day, it's GTA for serious and SR for ballsy. Oh, and talking about balls, SR let you controll a female gangster. Rockstar never gets that much balls. :D
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