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I used to game exclusively on consoles then made to PC out of curiosity. It was the best idea ever.
GLORIOUS PC MASTER GAMING RACE
GLORIOUS PC MASTER GAMING RACE
Jim, you have no idea how much I want to cover that Chainsword in my love juice. After it's out of your hands of course, that would be just rude.
On topic: Those worried about getting into PC gaming, for the price of two 360's you can build a pc rig that will last twice as long, just sayin.
On topic: Those worried about getting into PC gaming, for the price of two 360's you can build a pc rig that will last twice as long, just sayin.
I made the rather foolish choice of buying a "gaming laptop".
It's too expensive to tote around everywhere, yet still too wimpy to pump out dem graphix.
But it's good enough for TF2, L4D, and Fallout. And of course the Amnesias and whatnot. And Bastion controls way better on PC. So yeah, PC is awesome.
It's too expensive to tote around everywhere, yet still too wimpy to pump out dem graphix.
But it's good enough for TF2, L4D, and Fallout. And of course the Amnesias and whatnot. And Bastion controls way better on PC. So yeah, PC is awesome.
I love both console and PC gaming, but it's exactly ^^^^ this that puts the PC just a notch about the rest. I can fire up my old copies of Planescape, Baldur's Gate, Fallout 2, et al and be happy until my eyes bleed.
Awesome-sauce.
Awesome-sauce.
Yes PC Gaming is not all about graphics, thanks. Now all is clear! I guess this is irony if your main interpretation of PC gaming VS Console gaming is simply graphical differences.
I like to think of PC gaming as the better medium , well
1)Customization of my game (mods)
2)Ability to upgrade hardware when I feel like it
3)PC can be used much like you use your console (HDMI to TV flip resolution to 720P in my TV's case, xbox 360 controller in hand ... no 23" monitor vs my 70" plasma arguement)
4)Superior MP, everything from larger servers, no xbox live moderator/report system (do not need, can ban idiots yourself)
5)Ability to upgrade/downgrade software as I see fit, for the most part (steam can make this tricky, but still possible )
6) Graphics , sure
As you can see at least in my little list , these are the reasons why I prefer playing a game on the PC VS same game on the console. In the end we are all gamers who love our hobby. And this is coming from the guy who has PC master race as his avatar, oh now that's irony : )
I like to think of PC gaming as the better medium , well
1)Customization of my game (mods)
2)Ability to upgrade hardware when I feel like it
3)PC can be used much like you use your console (HDMI to TV flip resolution to 720P in my TV's case, xbox 360 controller in hand ... no 23" monitor vs my 70" plasma arguement)
4)Superior MP, everything from larger servers, no xbox live moderator/report system (do not need, can ban idiots yourself)
5)Ability to upgrade/downgrade software as I see fit, for the most part (steam can make this tricky, but still possible )
6) Graphics , sure
As you can see at least in my little list , these are the reasons why I prefer playing a game on the PC VS same game on the console. In the end we are all gamers who love our hobby. And this is coming from the guy who has PC master race as his avatar, oh now that's irony : )
If you don't like PC gaming then you're a racist. If you don't like console gaming just because then you're an elitist.
capt rigs:"4)Superior MP, everything from larger servers, no xbox live moderator/report system (do not need, can ban idiots yourself) "
This is why I hate pc MP games. bitchy admins or bitchy bk randoms who know the admin ruin the game. And votekick. Doing really good? kick. Not doing the best? kick. Different end of a political spectrum? kick.
This is why I hate pc MP games. bitchy admins or bitchy bk randoms who know the admin ruin the game. And votekick. Doing really good? kick. Not doing the best? kick. Different end of a political spectrum? kick.
Jim- you are absolutely right (not all the time- but with this you are dead on). I recently upgraded a dual core PENTIUM with a 2 year old video card to an AMD Phenom II X4 and top tier video card to play Battlefield 3.
You know what I've been playing since I upgraded? Same ish I was playing before.
You know what I've been playing since I upgraded? Same ish I was playing before.
There's more to PC gaming than just graphics, good or bad.
What about the customization you get from not being on a locked platform like the Playstation and Xbox?
You touch on that with EyE but there are plenty more... Off of the top of my head, Conterstrike, Team Fortress, Red Orchestra, Garry's Mod, Killing Floor etc (both Unreal and Half-Life based mods respectively)
Then there's the likes of Minecraft and even customization for your favourite games, if you've a capable PC then buying Skyrim on a console is a folly, as far as I'm concerned. Morrowind and Oblivion were truly MAGNIFICENT after a few months of a rabid community tinkering with just about everything.
What about the customization you get from not being on a locked platform like the Playstation and Xbox?
You touch on that with EyE but there are plenty more... Off of the top of my head, Conterstrike, Team Fortress, Red Orchestra, Garry's Mod, Killing Floor etc (both Unreal and Half-Life based mods respectively)
Then there's the likes of Minecraft and even customization for your favourite games, if you've a capable PC then buying Skyrim on a console is a folly, as far as I'm concerned. Morrowind and Oblivion were truly MAGNIFICENT after a few months of a rabid community tinkering with just about everything.
Cheers for still playing DOOM.
I just got into PC gaming myself (with an on-clearance tower from Best Buy and a $170 graphics card--can't be too careful, with Skyrim coming out and all). After being a console whore for most of my life, it's not something I regret.
I'll still get a Wii U when that comes out, so I can have the best gaming has to offer with Nintendo's first-party releases and a computer to play the rest of whatever appeals to me.
I just got into PC gaming myself (with an on-clearance tower from Best Buy and a $170 graphics card--can't be too careful, with Skyrim coming out and all). After being a console whore for most of my life, it's not something I regret.
I'll still get a Wii U when that comes out, so I can have the best gaming has to offer with Nintendo's first-party releases and a computer to play the rest of whatever appeals to me.
I don't prefer PC gaming. Neither do I prefer console gaming. I prefer whatever platform is running the game I'm currently obsessing over. For the next couple of weeks, that's going to be my PS3 as I worship at the feet of Resistance 3. After that, it'll probably be my Wii as I've been hankering to play through Super Mario Galaxy 2 again. Maybe once that's done, I'll finally pick up Amnesia (it's been in my backlog all this time).
Gamers... true, to the core gamers... should in my opinion embrace every possible platform. I'm not saying we have to OWN every possible platform as our budgets may not allow that, but we should respect what they're doing and what they're contributing to our passion. It's the True Neutral alignment of the gaming community, and I am proudly a Gamer Druid.
Gamers... true, to the core gamers... should in my opinion embrace every possible platform. I'm not saying we have to OWN every possible platform as our budgets may not allow that, but we should respect what they're doing and what they're contributing to our passion. It's the True Neutral alignment of the gaming community, and I am proudly a Gamer Druid.
Also: I still play Doom, consoles are now featuring more and more HD updates so if anything the trend for being able to play older games (fanboys ranting about backwards compatability) is one that applies on just about every dedicated gaming format.
Also: I still play Doom, consoles are now featuring more and more HD updates (and remakes) so if anything the trend for being able to play older games (fanboys ranting about backwards compatability) is one that applies on just about every dedicated gaming format.
Well thank you captain obvious.
I think just about everybody has a shitty PC that can run the games you talked about, but there's no reason to upgrade from my console to go to PC gaming for slight graphical enhancments.
That's not to say that those games are horrible, there's just no reason to buy a superpowered uranium PC to get slightly better graphics.
I think just about everybody has a shitty PC that can run the games you talked about, but there's no reason to upgrade from my console to go to PC gaming for slight graphical enhancments.
That's not to say that those games are horrible, there's just no reason to buy a superpowered uranium PC to get slightly better graphics.
umm... most rigs i know people have can't run anything more than a game from 2003. Anything newer than Warcraft 3 (and even warcraft 3) lags to the point of watching a slideshow and causes blue screens of death to appear.
this is coming from someone in a fairly well-off middle class family. i can't even run the original Half Life without it seizing up and refusing to play. I tried GTA3 and had to scale down the graphics to textureless blobs. Seriously, unless you have a 1000 dollar gaming rig, you're going to have great difficulty getting anything past Starcraft 1 to run at optimum graphics at all from what I've seen and experienced. and even 1000 dollar computers that my family has bought still can't handle anything more than lowest-graphics one-on-one unit fights in Warcraft 3. It IS an expensive and more complicated choice in gaming. And what with massive amounts of DRM and the inability for couch co-op, I think I like my "pop in and play" console better. if that makes me a "kiddie" then so be it. at least i don't have to deal with always-on DRM that'll lock me out of single-player if my internet connection so much as stutters.
this is coming from someone in a fairly well-off middle class family. i can't even run the original Half Life without it seizing up and refusing to play. I tried GTA3 and had to scale down the graphics to textureless blobs. Seriously, unless you have a 1000 dollar gaming rig, you're going to have great difficulty getting anything past Starcraft 1 to run at optimum graphics at all from what I've seen and experienced. and even 1000 dollar computers that my family has bought still can't handle anything more than lowest-graphics one-on-one unit fights in Warcraft 3. It IS an expensive and more complicated choice in gaming. And what with massive amounts of DRM and the inability for couch co-op, I think I like my "pop in and play" console better. if that makes me a "kiddie" then so be it. at least i don't have to deal with always-on DRM that'll lock me out of single-player if my internet connection so much as stutters.
Well looks like my comment was utterly fucking irrelevant, should have watched the vid first, dam burrito.
Jim, you're fat, but I still agree with you... 'cause I'm fat, too.
Seriously, EYE is fucking awesome. So is Minecraft, League of Legends, Terreria, Team Fortress 2, and a seemingly infinite list of other games that can be run on damn near anything. I fully support the fact that you don't need a top o' the line machine to enjoy the best PC gaming has to offer. I know, because my rig is as modest as can be and I play it all.
Also, don't forget about mods, customizable control and display options, and the best backwards compatibility gaming has ever seen. There's also emulators if you don't mind getting a little sketchy.
We are PC. Assimilate or perish.
Seriously, EYE is fucking awesome. So is Minecraft, League of Legends, Terreria, Team Fortress 2, and a seemingly infinite list of other games that can be run on damn near anything. I fully support the fact that you don't need a top o' the line machine to enjoy the best PC gaming has to offer. I know, because my rig is as modest as can be and I play it all.
Also, don't forget about mods, customizable control and display options, and the best backwards compatibility gaming has ever seen. There's also emulators if you don't mind getting a little sketchy.
We are PC. Assimilate or perish.
Jim, I love these videos.
Unlike everyone else who feels the need to point out the not-so-obvious, you feel the need to point out the blatantly obvious, and that's what makes this show so funny.
And that sword at the end...me jealous. Me very very jealous.
Unlike everyone else who feels the need to point out the not-so-obvious, you feel the need to point out the blatantly obvious, and that's what makes this show so funny.
And that sword at the end...me jealous. Me very very jealous.
@Jeffrey Warf
Son, you're so far off it's retarded. I built my rig for $600 three years ago and can play Cryis and Witcher 2 at moderate levels without a hitch. Today, someone could build my same rig for half the price, easy. Maybe even less. Tell your middle class daddy to unass a few bucks and let you get a computer built this decade.
Son, you're so far off it's retarded. I built my rig for $600 three years ago and can play Cryis and Witcher 2 at moderate levels without a hitch. Today, someone could build my same rig for half the price, easy. Maybe even less. Tell your middle class daddy to unass a few bucks and let you get a computer built this decade.
Jeffrey Warf: YOu probably bought an expensive computer with bad specs. You really have to check around before you buy or build
@Jeffrey Warf
There are definitely pros and cons of both. With console gaming you know the experience is going to be standard across everyone on the console. Also, like you said, local multiplayer and splitscreen are a blast. Consoles are the cheaper, easier solution, and support local multiplayer more readily.
However a decent PC can open gaming doorways, just take a look at any list of free online games, and you'll see everything from WoW, CoD clones, TF2, to just about something for every genre out there. Add to that the fact that fun little time wasters are easy to find online... And we haven't gotten to games you purchase yet.
There are definitely pros and cons of both. With console gaming you know the experience is going to be standard across everyone on the console. Also, like you said, local multiplayer and splitscreen are a blast. Consoles are the cheaper, easier solution, and support local multiplayer more readily.
However a decent PC can open gaming doorways, just take a look at any list of free online games, and you'll see everything from WoW, CoD clones, TF2, to just about something for every genre out there. Add to that the fact that fun little time wasters are easy to find online... And we haven't gotten to games you purchase yet.
Boner jokes: 0
Mentions of penises: 0
NEW RECORD! I actually enjoyed that, and I am normally a frothing mad critic of you( and your penis jokes,) Jim. keep up the good work!
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NEW RECORD! I actually enjoyed that, and I am normally a frothing mad critic of you( and your penis jokes,) Jim. keep up the good work!
@Jeffrey Warf
I have a 400 dollar labtop(non gaming labtop at that) that I use for school, while it can't run some of the later titles, it can run stuff like Half life 2 - episode 2, and borderlands, so no, your just wrong.
I have a 400 dollar labtop(non gaming labtop at that) that I use for school, while it can't run some of the later titles, it can run stuff like Half life 2 - episode 2, and borderlands, so no, your just wrong.
@TheNephilym
To be fair, where Jeffrey Warf sounds like he's coming from is someone who isn't familiar with building a PC himself.
And again, that can almost be listed as a "price of admission" for PC gaming, that you know how to build, or at least shop around for deals to build one/have one made cheap.
The average middle class family doesn't do that.
To be fair, where Jeffrey Warf sounds like he's coming from is someone who isn't familiar with building a PC himself.
And again, that can almost be listed as a "price of admission" for PC gaming, that you know how to build, or at least shop around for deals to build one/have one made cheap.
The average middle class family doesn't do that.
When you buy a PC game, especially if it's on a digital distro that will likely last for the foreseeable future, you own it, and can play it for the rest of your life and then some.
Console games last as long as you own a functional console the game was made for. Excluding emulation which really just runs on pirated or hacked versions of the game, that's the only way you're ever going to enjoy the game you bought.
PC gaming is not about buying a PC like how console gaming is about buying the console. It's all about buying a game on the format. You can play it on virtually all computers that pass the minimum requirement.
Console games last as long as you own a functional console the game was made for. Excluding emulation which really just runs on pirated or hacked versions of the game, that's the only way you're ever going to enjoy the game you bought.
PC gaming is not about buying a PC like how console gaming is about buying the console. It's all about buying a game on the format. You can play it on virtually all computers that pass the minimum requirement.
there's also the whole "everything on PC is digital" thing that consoles seem to be picking up on. not everyone has a credit card, not everyone has all the space in the world, and not everyone has enough money to afford an internet connection that would allow games to be downloaded within 24 hours.
plus, because the games are all being sold digitally, the prices could never change for years, especially since there's no used game sales to compete with.
plus, because the games are all being sold digitally, the prices could never change for years, especially since there's no used game sales to compete with.
aaaaaaand there's also no lending games out to friends, everyone HAS to buy the game in order to enjoy it, and with more and more PC developers getting rid of LAN and requiring always-on DRM, being able to have fun with a friend in the same room as you is getting more and more impossible by the day
Some day I'm going to have to quit being a poor turd and jump over to PC gaming. I've become so exasperated with the console market over the years. Part of the problem might be that I haven't had a desk in over seven years, and thus have to use my laptop in awkward places not conducive to gaming. Maybe the main problem is that there is already so much work put into building a comfort shrine around the television that getting another shrine set up just seems too costly. When I get finished with my Masters and have a job that will actually give me some money, PC gaming will be my goal.
I used to game on PC almost exclusively, but I was also a spoiled brat. My mother paid for everything and I never worried about dropping $600 for a video card. Now that I have to fend for myself, I've opened up to a lot of indie games and many different genres that I never knew about.
PC gaming really is the best kind of option for diversity. While there certainly is a lot of different options on consoles, most of the outlandish and batshit insane games remain on PC due to a service like Steam that allows cheap prices and wide access. I love it, either way.
PC gaming really is the best kind of option for diversity. While there certainly is a lot of different options on consoles, most of the outlandish and batshit insane games remain on PC due to a service like Steam that allows cheap prices and wide access. I love it, either way.
"because the games are all being sold digitally, the prices could never change for years, especially since there's no used game sales to compete with."
This just proved that you are a very ignorant man. Steam + summer and winter = grabbing AAA games for 5 dollars.
This just proved that you are a very ignorant man. Steam + summer and winter = grabbing AAA games for 5 dollars.
@markcocjin
I actually find that argument flawed. With digital distribution, the second the service goes down, you no longer own any of those games. Look at Steam's user agreement.
Where as with a console, relying on people's "it broke, time to throw it away" mentality means you can build up enough spare parts to rebuild a working console (and the actual rebuild process) is a lot easier than you think. It's how I got my NES, two Saturns, Sega Genesis, Super Nintendo, three Playstations, N64, and two Dreamcasts.
If something like Steam goes down, and I loose access to all those games, there's no way I can take another Steam and patch them together to get my games back. Physical PC games, however, you're spot on about.
I actually find that argument flawed. With digital distribution, the second the service goes down, you no longer own any of those games. Look at Steam's user agreement.
Where as with a console, relying on people's "it broke, time to throw it away" mentality means you can build up enough spare parts to rebuild a working console (and the actual rebuild process) is a lot easier than you think. It's how I got my NES, two Saturns, Sega Genesis, Super Nintendo, three Playstations, N64, and two Dreamcasts.
If something like Steam goes down, and I loose access to all those games, there's no way I can take another Steam and patch them together to get my games back. Physical PC games, however, you're spot on about.
I hate to go on about this but Windows. It's not getting near any of my machines. If I wanted to I could of course DOSBox many of the old classics, but other than that, I exclusively play console games or games that run on Mac or Linux.
Again Jim is accurate but not because of the reasons stated in his argument. He's started to be Micheal Patcher.
Number Ono: Gaming is at the mercy of console gaming, period the reasons games have slowed down in the curb of evolution is the lowest common denominator. It's the same way our laws and everything else works these days you have to dumb everything down. The engine talked about in the JIMQUISITION was half-life 2. Which is a double conundrum it suffers from the draw back of being made to work on consoles (primarily), and being a product of Steam. Everyone knows what steam is meaning Valve can put out pretty much anything and have a great advertisement location and distribution, ie Portal 2. They don't have to upgrade their graphics because they are not in direct competition with anyone, they themselves can put out anything and who do they have to pay to publish it? Themselves. Then there's the rise of the DLC where paying for smaller games and independent companies able to give birth to low budget software.
Also as proven on Dtoid in a differnt article a competent computer really only costs around $500, and the games are $10 cheaper. If you are into buying games and not renting you eventually save more owning a PC than a console in the long run.
Number Ono: Gaming is at the mercy of console gaming, period the reasons games have slowed down in the curb of evolution is the lowest common denominator. It's the same way our laws and everything else works these days you have to dumb everything down. The engine talked about in the JIMQUISITION was half-life 2. Which is a double conundrum it suffers from the draw back of being made to work on consoles (primarily), and being a product of Steam. Everyone knows what steam is meaning Valve can put out pretty much anything and have a great advertisement location and distribution, ie Portal 2. They don't have to upgrade their graphics because they are not in direct competition with anyone, they themselves can put out anything and who do they have to pay to publish it? Themselves. Then there's the rise of the DLC where paying for smaller games and independent companies able to give birth to low budget software.
Also as proven on Dtoid in a differnt article a competent computer really only costs around $500, and the games are $10 cheaper. If you are into buying games and not renting you eventually save more owning a PC than a console in the long run.
@ MrFunsockz
you're right. i'm NOT familiar with building a PC, because i tried it 4 times (took a class at my college for it once) and, well, it's really just overly-complicated to the point where buying a console for 299.99 and getting a few games for it (or just borrowing them from friends, which I wish i could do on PC) is just the better alternative. i have no space in my room for a tower and i also don't like taking risks when it comes to expensive things. when i do something for the first time, i mess it up. this is a fact that i learn from my mistakes, but dropping anything more than 50 dollars on building something just to run minecraft without me having to get an icepack for my laptop every hour or so is something i don't want to take a risk on. target doesn't exactly pay me a middle-class salary, so trying to afford building a PC gaming rig (and then having a chance that merely TOUCHING it could destroy it) is just too much of a financial risk for me. buying older used games for my 360 is just more financially responsible, especially since i have to help pay some bills now that my family is a little less well off than it used to be after certain members of my family started acting irresponsibly and costing us thousands in legal fees.
i don't want to risk my money on something that MAY or may not work exactly how i envision it. and may or may not break just by touching it or not putting it together perfectly. those who are into PC gaming obviously have more money and a longer history of dealing with PCs so they already know how things fit together and what exactly goes with what, but me? i was raised on pop-in and play consoles, so suddenly having to learn about and then risk my money on this would be, to put it bluntly, stupid. not when i have bills to pay, a girlfriend to take care of, and transportation to afford.
and calling someone a retard (not talking about you MrFunsockz) is quite a trollish remark that adds nothing to the discussion value of the topic at hand, especially when you absolutely refuse to see it from that person's point of view because you've had your head so far up your ass for so long that a normal, average person's viewpoint is foreign to you. don't call someone retarded just because what they've seen and experienced is different from what you've experienced (basically, you might as well be a pilot and be calling me a retard because i think flying is complicated, or a music virtuoso and you're calling me a retard because i can't play bach's cello suite on a double-necked guitar. just because you're familiar with something doesn't make people who aren't "retards")
you're right. i'm NOT familiar with building a PC, because i tried it 4 times (took a class at my college for it once) and, well, it's really just overly-complicated to the point where buying a console for 299.99 and getting a few games for it (or just borrowing them from friends, which I wish i could do on PC) is just the better alternative. i have no space in my room for a tower and i also don't like taking risks when it comes to expensive things. when i do something for the first time, i mess it up. this is a fact that i learn from my mistakes, but dropping anything more than 50 dollars on building something just to run minecraft without me having to get an icepack for my laptop every hour or so is something i don't want to take a risk on. target doesn't exactly pay me a middle-class salary, so trying to afford building a PC gaming rig (and then having a chance that merely TOUCHING it could destroy it) is just too much of a financial risk for me. buying older used games for my 360 is just more financially responsible, especially since i have to help pay some bills now that my family is a little less well off than it used to be after certain members of my family started acting irresponsibly and costing us thousands in legal fees.
i don't want to risk my money on something that MAY or may not work exactly how i envision it. and may or may not break just by touching it or not putting it together perfectly. those who are into PC gaming obviously have more money and a longer history of dealing with PCs so they already know how things fit together and what exactly goes with what, but me? i was raised on pop-in and play consoles, so suddenly having to learn about and then risk my money on this would be, to put it bluntly, stupid. not when i have bills to pay, a girlfriend to take care of, and transportation to afford.
and calling someone a retard (not talking about you MrFunsockz) is quite a trollish remark that adds nothing to the discussion value of the topic at hand, especially when you absolutely refuse to see it from that person's point of view because you've had your head so far up your ass for so long that a normal, average person's viewpoint is foreign to you. don't call someone retarded just because what they've seen and experienced is different from what you've experienced (basically, you might as well be a pilot and be calling me a retard because i think flying is complicated, or a music virtuoso and you're calling me a retard because i can't play bach's cello suite on a double-necked guitar. just because you're familiar with something doesn't make people who aren't "retards")
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