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hey jim... did you know that both crysis and infamous have difficulty settings? if you feel like not thinking while playing a video game... just play everything on easy
I just can't agree with you for a second in regards to Crysis. I never felt you were supposed to be a super-hero; your suit has cool powers, sure, but its fairly well established from the start that bullets will still kill you easily enough.
Even with that in mind, your complaints about difficulty confuse me. Are you playing on hard or Delta? In that case, surprise surprise, the game is hard. Are you playing on normal or easy? In that case, how in the hell are you finding the game a challenge?
I really do feel that, any other complaints aside, the difficulty of Crysis and the suit powers are fantastically balanced. Games that allow you to do cool things with extremely minor effort should not make you feel badass. In Crysis, you need to know when and where to use your powers, you need to be clever to how you approach situations, and of course you still need to be accurate with your guns (its an FPS game). Playing on hard and Delta sure makes me feel like a badass.
Even with that in mind, your complaints about difficulty confuse me. Are you playing on hard or Delta? In that case, surprise surprise, the game is hard. Are you playing on normal or easy? In that case, how in the hell are you finding the game a challenge?
I really do feel that, any other complaints aside, the difficulty of Crysis and the suit powers are fantastically balanced. Games that allow you to do cool things with extremely minor effort should not make you feel badass. In Crysis, you need to know when and where to use your powers, you need to be clever to how you approach situations, and of course you still need to be accurate with your guns (its an FPS game). Playing on hard and Delta sure makes me feel like a badass.
@Gethsemane
Strewth, man! Chill!
@Jim
Good points, although I don't think it's as bad as you make out. Crysis was a lot easier than Far Cry and always has lots of nice hiding places (hell, I stealth/sprinted my way through an airport full of tanks in Warhead and only died once), although I'm wholly with you on the fucking helicopters. Grr. While it's true that strength is mostly useless (at least for my playstyle) and speed is also a bit pointless, the temporary invisibility made it possible to retreat and regain the initiative once you'd been spotted, unlike in Far Cry.
Prototype's a funny one. I wouldn't say I ever stopped feeling like a badass except in the Supreme Hunter boss fights (I beat the giant red worm thing by throwing cars at it, which made up for all the running away). It's true that the difficulty does get ramped up to 11, but once you get Air Slice the tanks disappear rather quite rapidly and you can always dispose of helicopters with the whipfist/cannonball and a rooftop. As for the hunters and supersoldiers, it's all about learning how to combat them properly - a lot easier said than done when you're also surrounded by choppers, soldiers and other big things, but I think that taking on one unit type at a time is the way forward (or simply employing Devastators). It's made up for by what happens when you finish the game, anyway; you're free to roam round the city and enjoy being a monstrous antihero who kills people in one hit from any of his attacks. Any.
Strewth, man! Chill!
@Jim
Good points, although I don't think it's as bad as you make out. Crysis was a lot easier than Far Cry and always has lots of nice hiding places (hell, I stealth/sprinted my way through an airport full of tanks in Warhead and only died once), although I'm wholly with you on the fucking helicopters. Grr. While it's true that strength is mostly useless (at least for my playstyle) and speed is also a bit pointless, the temporary invisibility made it possible to retreat and regain the initiative once you'd been spotted, unlike in Far Cry.
Prototype's a funny one. I wouldn't say I ever stopped feeling like a badass except in the Supreme Hunter boss fights (I beat the giant red worm thing by throwing cars at it, which made up for all the running away). It's true that the difficulty does get ramped up to 11, but once you get Air Slice the tanks disappear rather quite rapidly and you can always dispose of helicopters with the whipfist/cannonball and a rooftop. As for the hunters and supersoldiers, it's all about learning how to combat them properly - a lot easier said than done when you're also surrounded by choppers, soldiers and other big things, but I think that taking on one unit type at a time is the way forward (or simply employing Devastators). It's made up for by what happens when you finish the game, anyway; you're free to roam round the city and enjoy being a monstrous antihero who kills people in one hit from any of his attacks. Any.
what i hate in games is limitations on bullet amounts, just give me an option to have unlimited bullets, actually just give me the ability to have everything unlimited.
What I took away from this is that if you are given superpowers, you should indeed be super. If you're mowing down little grunts and street thugs with guns, where's the challenge? That's where more difficult enemies come in. There's nothing more irritating than getting shot down by little normal-powered humans. But if you're facing a helicopter, or a giant robot or another super powered being, it should be more difficult. If you want to run through the town and raze "normies" you shouldn't have to worry about seeing the words "restart at last checkpoint".
I didn't have a problem with inFamous - all you had to do was stay on top of buildings = problem solved. There were one or two annoying sections, like the train sections, but the check-pointing was generous enough to allow you to get through it.
With Cyrsis, that game is just annoying and badly designed. I didn't have any fun with it. Yes, the graphics were wonderful, but the constant harassment was less so.
With Prototype, the idea was the make the game hard, so that you would feel even mightier having being able to win. I had a lot of fun with that game - it was hard, but what else do you expect when you have the entire US military on your tail?
Never played Force Unleashed.
With Cyrsis, that game is just annoying and badly designed. I didn't have any fun with it. Yes, the graphics were wonderful, but the constant harassment was less so.
With Prototype, the idea was the make the game hard, so that you would feel even mightier having being able to win. I had a lot of fun with that game - it was hard, but what else do you expect when you have the entire US military on your tail?
Never played Force Unleashed.
I'm not sure I'd include Prototype in the list of games with nerfed super heroes. Alex Mercer can tear apart any of the humans he comes into contact with, he can survive ridiculous drops from the tops of buildings, and he can blow up tanks with his bare (slightly deformed) hands.
I do understand that it includes enemies that are strong enough to take multiple hits, but not once during the game did I feel like I was being cheated out of my super powers.
I do understand that it includes enemies that are strong enough to take multiple hits, but not once during the game did I feel like I was being cheated out of my super powers.
Although not a super hero, Kratos is a good example of being a bad ass with over the top powers and being able to snot 90% of anything standing in your way? and the only things that really stop you are gods and they're powerfull for a reason....they're gods
99% of the time I'll get your back Jim.
Just not this time.
I never once felt underpowered in The Force Unleashed. Quite the contrary, even on hard mode I felt like a mega-god - crushing AT-ST's and taking down powerful Jedi Masters like all get out.
Doesn't help your case that in the background you have Starkiller doing all those badass things in-game that you're trashing it for not being able to do.
Just not this time.
I never once felt underpowered in The Force Unleashed. Quite the contrary, even on hard mode I felt like a mega-god - crushing AT-ST's and taking down powerful Jedi Masters like all get out.
Doesn't help your case that in the background you have Starkiller doing all those badass things in-game that you're trashing it for not being able to do.
excellent point, jim. you're completely right about super powers not being so super this gen. i blame lazy game makers who are unable to come up with truly compelling gameplay. anyhow, i just wanted to say that it's about time for you to CHANGE THE CAMERA ANGLE. just point the camera a little higher, so that i can see your entire head, and not see the entire length of the fly of your jeans.
also, when you and mr holmes are on camera, it's magic, please find a way for this to happen more often.
also, when you and mr holmes are on camera, it's magic, please find a way for this to happen more often.
Can't use Batman as an example, Batman isn't a super hero, no super powers. Super heroes should have things that make you fail, never die, it just seems stupid when you do. Games need to have things in relation to each other. IE: God of War where you are fighting other God's and monsters created by them. Kinda makes sense, whenever you try to mix the 2 of reality and "super" reality games can end up look silly. IE: HALO3 where MC enters the atmosphere, crashes, but somehow can be killed by explosions.
I'm new to this site, and I don't even have to watch the video that you're an opinionated fatass with a superiority complex. Get over yourself, douch bag.
I love how every cockbite that disagrees with Jim has to bring his weight into it.
The fact that he's heavy makes his opinions less valid?
If anything, I think it gives his arguments more weight!
Sorry, but I couldn't resist the pun.
So here's an idea:
Learn to express your opinions like an adult rather than a socially-retard preteen.
If you really are a socially-retarded preteen, please remove yourself from the internet immediately.
The fact that he's heavy makes his opinions less valid?
If anything, I think it gives his arguments more weight!
Sorry, but I couldn't resist the pun.
So here's an idea:
Learn to express your opinions like an adult rather than a socially-retard preteen.
If you really are a socially-retarded preteen, please remove yourself from the internet immediately.
I was going to say that the powers in crysis weren't that nerfed and that it wasn't very hard... But then I remembered the helicopters. Those things were terrible.
Crysis sucked. It certainly wasn't hard, but every super power made no sense. The only thing you ever needed was the defense, as stealth and power didn't work and the super jump was pointless without any platforming sections.
Spot on Jim, when you superhero's kriptonite is something as mundane as metal fences it totally breaks the illusion, also Hadouken ending = great lulz
@D Chap: whoa, there's not need to go that far.
@D Chap: whoa, there's not need to go that far.
Well now, aren't you the one that sucks at Mario? Like, seriously. How do you critique games if you suck at playing Mario bros. I mean, REALLY?
No. His weight doesn't make his opinion less valid. It's just that EVERY fat guy on the internet is an opinionated ass.
Now what do you think about Superman Returns? There is absolutely nothing that can kill Supes in that game. I have an extreme amount of fun playing Prototype and none of the enemies are too much of a threat even on the hardest difficulty. Perhaps Superman Returns is more you're style, since absolutely NOTHING in the game can kill you or pose much of a threat.
i dont think crysis was supposed to be considered a "superhero" game. it's just you are wearing a suit that is supposed to help with combat tactically.
I can see where Jim's coming from but I disagree with a lot of his criticisms. For example Crysis you can do pretty damn amazing stuff once you've practiced. Speed run over to a few enemies, Strength toss, then Armor up and get back to shooting.
Anyway, I do get the point that not being bulletproof and having non-generically stupid enemies can make you feel less super, but I also feel that a game without any challenge at all would get boring after a while.
IMO the best solution is simply to have a code or option for unlimited Force/energy/mana whatever to satisfy both those that want the challenge and those that want the "I'm an invincible super hero" thing.
Anyway, I do get the point that not being bulletproof and having non-generically stupid enemies can make you feel less super, but I also feel that a game without any challenge at all would get boring after a while.
IMO the best solution is simply to have a code or option for unlimited Force/energy/mana whatever to satisfy both those that want the challenge and those that want the "I'm an invincible super hero" thing.
Think of Metroid Prime. Not a super-hero game per se, but a similar concept. It puts you in control of a strong bounty hunter outfitted with all the best tools to get the job done, so very few enemies you encounter are ever particularly difficult to defeat. But the focus isn't on the fighting; it's on puzzle solving and exploration, and those segments of the game are often very challenging.
The point is that in a super-hero game (in which the point of the game is to make you feel like a super-hero) the challenging parts of the game cannot be combat-oriented, or else it defeats the purpose of the game!
The point is that in a super-hero game (in which the point of the game is to make you feel like a super-hero) the challenging parts of the game cannot be combat-oriented, or else it defeats the purpose of the game!
I understand your point, and totally agree with you on The Force Unleashed. I felt really restricted, and the enemies were too smart and powerful. I really like inFAMOUS, however, and I thought it did a great job of balancing the difficulty where I could feel like a bad-ass and still feel challenged. It wasn't perfect by any means, though. I think it would have been cooler to go against more super-villains than kids with guns, so it would make more sense for the game to be challenging.
wahahah I just saw the Kratos My Little Pony rofl. Moving on. What did we all learn today? Dont play shit games made in Germany. If you have to play Crysis2 at least turn the German language option on:
"Schnell!!!!! Uber das powar uberloaden funf sechsehen!" lol
"Schnell!!!!! Uber das powar uberloaden funf sechsehen!" lol
It's true though most supre hero games should be easy in the beginning. towards the end though. It should be hard. But not to the point where I am ready to chuck the controller and system out the window.
I've not played Crysis 2 (obviously), but I COMPLETELY disagree in regards to the first Crysis.
Crysis doesn't set you up as a superhero, it sets you up as a soldier with the greatest of humanities intuition and technology behind him. Unlike other games, the setup leaves you in a position of always being outnumbered (Korean troops) or outgunned (giant ALIENS) with no choice of turning around (does Nathan Drake really need to be in most of the situations he ends up in? Maybe).
The powers can't be used with reckless abandon I agree (unless you're playing on easy mode) and it may come across as strange that a single burst of fire can take you down, but the whole point of the powers is to unlock STRATEGY.
So I enter a new area, and I'm on a slope...
1. I scope out the surroundings with binoculars, there are enemies below me which I've tagged.
2. I 'MAXIMUM speed' my way down the hill and dash into some bushes.
3. I go into cloak mode and sneak my way behind a hut.
4. Now safely out of view I go into 'MAXIMUM strength' mode and leap on top of the hut, then I punch a whole through the roof and drop down.
5. Now I'm in deep cover I go into 'MAXIMUM armour' mode and blast the crap out of the vulnerable troops outside until their down.
Then I move on... but I could have done it a ton of ways.
That is what I see Crysis gameplay as being, you aren't a superhero in the technical sense, but you are BASICALLY Batman.
I don't know what you mean when you say the stealth doesn't work, unlike the original Far Cry stealth worked a treat in Crysis 1. You could sneak up on enemies and take them down Predator style, you can avoid encouters altogether, and if you were attacked you could go invisible and not only would they miss... they would completely lose track of you if you hid.
I completely understand what you're saying (why can't an empowered character make me feel empowered?). The difference is, Crysis is not that kind of game in my opinion.
Forced Unleashed is though. Uncharted is just MUCH larger than life.
Crysis doesn't set you up as a superhero, it sets you up as a soldier with the greatest of humanities intuition and technology behind him. Unlike other games, the setup leaves you in a position of always being outnumbered (Korean troops) or outgunned (giant ALIENS) with no choice of turning around (does Nathan Drake really need to be in most of the situations he ends up in? Maybe).
The powers can't be used with reckless abandon I agree (unless you're playing on easy mode) and it may come across as strange that a single burst of fire can take you down, but the whole point of the powers is to unlock STRATEGY.
So I enter a new area, and I'm on a slope...
1. I scope out the surroundings with binoculars, there are enemies below me which I've tagged.
2. I 'MAXIMUM speed' my way down the hill and dash into some bushes.
3. I go into cloak mode and sneak my way behind a hut.
4. Now safely out of view I go into 'MAXIMUM strength' mode and leap on top of the hut, then I punch a whole through the roof and drop down.
5. Now I'm in deep cover I go into 'MAXIMUM armour' mode and blast the crap out of the vulnerable troops outside until their down.
Then I move on... but I could have done it a ton of ways.
That is what I see Crysis gameplay as being, you aren't a superhero in the technical sense, but you are BASICALLY Batman.
I don't know what you mean when you say the stealth doesn't work, unlike the original Far Cry stealth worked a treat in Crysis 1. You could sneak up on enemies and take them down Predator style, you can avoid encouters altogether, and if you were attacked you could go invisible and not only would they miss... they would completely lose track of you if you hid.
I completely understand what you're saying (why can't an empowered character make me feel empowered?). The difference is, Crysis is not that kind of game in my opinion.
Forced Unleashed is though. Uncharted is just MUCH larger than life.
I honestly think that until they make these games in the way you described, the best super hero games are actually ones where you're not supposed to be. My most recent example would be Just Cause 2. The guy can take a ridiculous amount of punishment and with the "Superman-Flight" mod, becomes almost god-like. Sure, it breaks the game, but the fun added to the formula is just amazing and more than makes up for lack of challenge (although once you get the ninjas involved, it does get to be a bit challenging). I figure until super hero games do that, just invest time in mods (not god mode, however) to make you feel like a bad ass.
Fun trumps challenge, evidently. And so does the charm of being mostly unstoppable. I get ya man. Challenge seems to be what we think of when we talk about games that are too easy and forgiving. More challenging should mean more fun, but then you tread a fine line between fun and frustration.
Wow a fat guy wants to be able to do physical crap :) ha your fat so your opinion is wrong. Logic, go away.
There is a way to achieve difficulty while feeling like a badass; use superior numbers. If you were a super hero who had to take out a dead-rising size army in a room before you could win, you would still feel heroic for going through the baddies like tissue paper, but still require a level of skill to not have your health whittled away before you're done.
I agree with those who said Spider-Man 2. As a matter of fact, I think most of the last-gen superhero games did a better job at making you feel good with the powers you were given.
Time for the list:
The Incredible Hulk: Ultimate Destruction (Best example, in my opinion)
X-Men Legends 1 & 2 (Jumping fools as the X-Men. What's not to like?)
The Punisher (Yeah, I know, Punisher has no super-powers, but he had one power. He could make you confess to anything before he put a slug in your head)
Time for the list:
The Incredible Hulk: Ultimate Destruction (Best example, in my opinion)
X-Men Legends 1 & 2 (Jumping fools as the X-Men. What's not to like?)
The Punisher (Yeah, I know, Punisher has no super-powers, but he had one power. He could make you confess to anything before he put a slug in your head)
You know what the funny thing is? I have the new Spider-man game rented at the moment, the one where you have different versions of the irrelevant character with a broken continuity that no one in their right mind actually cares about. Noir Spider is pretty much my favorite, even though he's the weakest one.
Because he actually acts like a fucking spider. Spiders don't run up walls and kick flies in the sides of their little insect heads, now do they? No they don't. They stay out of sight and entrap their prey before feeding. It's the most authentic spider experience I've had on a console since Spider on the PS One...no, wait, it's even more authentic than that because you didn't even get to play as a real spider in that game. That was a robot that looked like a spider. Totally not the same thing.
Because he actually acts like a fucking spider. Spiders don't run up walls and kick flies in the sides of their little insect heads, now do they? No they don't. They stay out of sight and entrap their prey before feeding. It's the most authentic spider experience I've had on a console since Spider on the PS One...no, wait, it's even more authentic than that because you didn't even get to play as a real spider in that game. That was a robot that looked like a spider. Totally not the same thing.
Most games like GOW have a super easy mode. If you have trouble on the super easy mode you should probably stop playing games. They always make you feel like an incredible badass. Oh, and they also are always boring. The only exception was GOW, where the entire game was super boring.
Star Wars: The Force Unleashed has a very overpowered Force Push/Pull. I've only played the demo of the second one, and I don't think I used anything but Force Grasp. I didn't even use my lightsabers or lightning at all.
I usually find you to be insufferable and obnoxious (see the "funny" intro sequence to this video)
But I have to agree with this. What is the point of being super heroic, when you're getting your ass kicked by EVERYTHING, and nickle and diming every enemy in the game, all because some lonely hardcore gamer with a challenge free real life, needs to feel good about himself, by struggling through a game.
At least make the enemies not so insulting to the player's intelligence. Don't make simple gangbangers, as deadly as giant robots. I'm looking at you, Champions Online.
There is challenge, and then there is self defeating, masochistic, one sided bullshit that only exists to make nerds feel validated, by playing a game they knew a bunch of other people probably couldn't. It stops being about fun, and starts being about how many games they slap on their chest like a badge of honor.
But I have to agree with this. What is the point of being super heroic, when you're getting your ass kicked by EVERYTHING, and nickle and diming every enemy in the game, all because some lonely hardcore gamer with a challenge free real life, needs to feel good about himself, by struggling through a game.
At least make the enemies not so insulting to the player's intelligence. Don't make simple gangbangers, as deadly as giant robots. I'm looking at you, Champions Online.
There is challenge, and then there is self defeating, masochistic, one sided bullshit that only exists to make nerds feel validated, by playing a game they knew a bunch of other people probably couldn't. It stops being about fun, and starts being about how many games they slap on their chest like a badge of honor.
Then if those power are put to the max, then you'll whine about how it was too easy. Sigh. People nowadays.
Fat, stupid, pompous version of Ricky Gervais, who is obviously shitty at video games, so he picks them apart, making them seems shitty, when really he just can't fucking play them. Come back when you find some actual skill, and or actual bad games. Prototype owned. Crysis was great, and inFAMOUS had it's time, being a PS3 exclusive..fuck off you wannabe British twat, get a stairmaster.
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