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I feel like they just don't really understand what America wants in terms of games and only thinks we can handle Mario
Anyone want to buy a European Wii? ;)
Funny how Britain took 235 years and ended up using Nintendo to finally get back at you for that whole Declaration of Independence thing.
Funny how Britain took 235 years and ended up using Nintendo to finally get back at you for that whole Declaration of Independence thing.
I live in australia, not sure where that puts me with these being released, I think we're usually with Europe though. Even if we aren't, UK games run fine on Aussie wii's. This does very much suck for our friends across the pond though. Hopefully the next console isn't region locked, because if it were region free like the ps3, this wouldn't even be an issue, everyone could just import it.
Thanks for reminding me I have a Wii, Mr. Sterling!
I guess I can go back to forgetting I have it now.
/facepalm in Nintendo's general direction
I guess I can go back to forgetting I have it now.
/facepalm in Nintendo's general direction
Also it occurs to me I should really change my handle and pic, I feel a distinct lack of the anonymity the internet usually provides.
Mind also convincing whoever responsible to release Tales of Vesperia's PS3 version in Europe? Actually, you could smack em around for the (lack of) localization of the whole Tales series while you're at it.
I can't help but wonder if Nintendo of America is still burned from the original Earthbound localization failure. We never did get an official Mother 3 release and this situation is all to reminiscent of that debacle.
@Jim Sterling: I'm shocked you didn't give the detailed his of Nintendo's failure to bring great titles in English. Der Langrissor (SNES). Treasures of the Rudra (SNES), Final Fantasy II (NES), Final Fantasy III (NES), Final Fantasy V (SNES), Bahamut Lagoon (SNES), Dual Orb 2 (SNES), Lennus II (Paladin Quest 2 - SNES), Live a Live (SNES), Mystic Ark (7th Saga 2 - SNES), Shin Megami Tensei I (SNES), Shin Megami Tensei II (SNES), Star Ocean (SNES), Tales of Phantasia (SNES), and of course Secret of Mana 3 (Final Fantasy Adventure was SoM1, we got SoM2 - SNES)
Well, have to agree with everything you said here, Jim. What the hell is up with NOA? Same goes for comparing NOA and NOJ's eShop...
Honestly, those are some TERRIBLE sales figures for a game console thats sold like 80 million or so units. I think the real question how it would stack up to sales of nintendo first party games?
@xaeius
those games were released in a period where RPGs were a niche genre. Sure they could have been successes, but they could have been absolute failures and the amount of coding to get it over would have been high. Plus the fact that they didn't own any of the code for those titles plays a big deal in licensing them.
Now, that's not the case anymore. Pandora's Tower is a Nintendo PUBLISHED title. Pandora's Tower is a Nintendo PUBLISHED title. Fatal Frame is a Nintendo PUBLISHED title. Xenoblade is a Nintendo PUBLISHED title. ASH is a Nintendo PUBLISHED title. Last Window and Trace Memory Wii from Cing are Nintendo PUBLISHED titles.
I know I'm getting redundant, but this is their properties. It's bullshit that they can't localize them for a system that has only a very small handful of games that could even be considered deep.
those games were released in a period where RPGs were a niche genre. Sure they could have been successes, but they could have been absolute failures and the amount of coding to get it over would have been high. Plus the fact that they didn't own any of the code for those titles plays a big deal in licensing them.
Now, that's not the case anymore. Pandora's Tower is a Nintendo PUBLISHED title. Pandora's Tower is a Nintendo PUBLISHED title. Fatal Frame is a Nintendo PUBLISHED title. Xenoblade is a Nintendo PUBLISHED title. ASH is a Nintendo PUBLISHED title. Last Window and Trace Memory Wii from Cing are Nintendo PUBLISHED titles.
I know I'm getting redundant, but this is their properties. It's bullshit that they can't localize them for a system that has only a very small handful of games that could even be considered deep.
@Joe Ess obviously first party games are going to sell better.
Still it wouldn't cost Nintendo very much to bring them to the Americas, and it would give me an excuse to turn on my Wii. I know that's a cliche phrase, but I have a feeling it's actually true for a lot of gamers.
Still it wouldn't cost Nintendo very much to bring them to the Americas, and it would give me an excuse to turn on my Wii. I know that's a cliche phrase, but I have a feeling it's actually true for a lot of gamers.
@ inzyster
You're probably right there, and I think that's a shame. In this case being able to import it would save them some bad P.R.
You're probably right there, and I think that's a shame. In this case being able to import it would save them some bad P.R.
Completely agree.
Especially with the wii being so dormant now with 1 big title coming for it.
Even my Die Hard nintendo friends noticed that and are pissed they aren't bringing these and just kinda letting the wii die.
Especially with the wii being so dormant now with 1 big title coming for it.
Even my Die Hard nintendo friends noticed that and are pissed they aren't bringing these and just kinda letting the wii die.
That list that shows that most extremely Japanese titles sell better in America is really just pointing out how poorly those games sell in all regions. Not to mention the only Nintendo game on that list, Sin and Punishment 2,sold better in Europe despite being heavily advertised in the USA.
I'm still sad we never had a Amercian copy of Teranigma. @Xaeius: a list that surely hit my nostalgia bone.
I don't know if this is going to be helpful, but I do know that "clit giraffe" is my new favorite combination of words.
Yeah its kind of insane this is still a problem in the game industry. I sort of gave up years ago ever getting to play a lot of the japanese games I'd be genuinely interested in. Just thinking of all the anime based games alone that I've missed simply because no one ever thought subbing or dubbing would be a worthwhile investment, makes me sad and angry. Freaking idiot companies.
@Ace829 & @Manasteel88
(Ace829) Sorry... I didn't even start attacking the handhelds *Devil Book, Dragon Quest Cavaran*. But that's even longer list...
(Manasteel88) About those titles is that I didn't even fully go at the detailed list of Nintendo, Super Nintendo, Gameboy, Gameboy Advance, Nintendo DS. There's a wonderful website called www.romhacking.net that is well known playground for translators/hackers to translate the old games into English. Gotta remember, Nintendo has to approve of the games publishing as well. That includes 3rd parties.
(Ace829) Sorry... I didn't even start attacking the handhelds *Devil Book, Dragon Quest Cavaran*. But that's even longer list...
(Manasteel88) About those titles is that I didn't even fully go at the detailed list of Nintendo, Super Nintendo, Gameboy, Gameboy Advance, Nintendo DS. There's a wonderful website called www.romhacking.net that is well known playground for translators/hackers to translate the old games into English. Gotta remember, Nintendo has to approve of the games publishing as well. That includes 3rd parties.
So the U.S. misses out on one thing & it's the end of the world. How about this, in the U.K. we only have about 12 different flavours of Ben & Jerry's ice cream as opposed to your selection of 631 flavours.
Seriously guys, is complaining about them and calling them the scum of the Earth going to make them appreciate you, the gamer, anymore? You can boycott them as much as you want but the point is they will continue to make money with or without you. I want these games too, but I'm not getting all butthurt about it.
The same happened for Mother 3, which I pirated. I used to think that maybe Nintendo would put out an official English version of Mother 3 on the DS, but obviously that never happened. Speaking of which, Mother 3 turned out to be one of the best games I've ever played. I'll give Nintendo until 2 months after The Last Story launches in Europe, and if there are no plans for a North American release by then, I will pirate it.
Dang it!!! What's goin on here? Now I can't watch this on my Google phone either. What happened to the mobile love? Don't make me wait until I get home to watch the Jimquisition.
Thanks for this. It's great to read about people fighting for these games but it's another thing to actually hear someone and see their emotions on how messed up NoA has been with the whole localization issue.
That rant on their reply was classic. Like I said before, it was pretty much taking a piss on fans expectations while NoA smiles. So thanks for that. I've been on the fence about importing Xenoblade but this has pushed me to pre-ordering it despite costs and illegality of what I'm about to do to my Wii.
"The things I do for love."
*Pushes NoA out the window
That rant on their reply was classic. Like I said before, it was pretty much taking a piss on fans expectations while NoA smiles. So thanks for that. I've been on the fence about importing Xenoblade but this has pushed me to pre-ordering it despite costs and illegality of what I'm about to do to my Wii.
"The things I do for love."
*Pushes NoA out the window
Good one Jim.
As a Wii fan it is fucking absurd. That's my complaint at the most basic level. I want fucking games to play.
Morons.
As a Wii fan it is fucking absurd. That's my complaint at the most basic level. I want fucking games to play.
Morons.
Great Jimquisition, as usual. One thing I don't understand, or struggle at least to comprehend, is the legitimacy of a company as cash-rich as Nintendo claiming that localisation is 'too expensive'. It makes no sense. Even if it's cost, say a quarter of a $million to localise a game for America or Europe that's but small change to a company that regularly declares its PROFITS n the hundreds of $millions.
Jim is right: NoA are talking complete and utter bullsh*t. It defies logic.
Jim is right: NoA are talking complete and utter bullsh*t. It defies logic.
?? How the bloody F do you embed these videos so the other nice folks on the webs view the genius that is the Jimquisition? Seriously.
@burningsoup
Not true. They had substantial losses during the Gamecube era because of reasons like this. I could easily see the WiiU being the end of it, especially after saying it's for the "hardcore" then pissing all their hardcore fans off bout this issue.
I won't be buying the WiiU. I actually was holding out on buying a Wii for, ironically, a Last Story NA announcements. So I guess I don't need one of those either. Thanks for not wanting my money, Nintendo!
Not true. They had substantial losses during the Gamecube era because of reasons like this. I could easily see the WiiU being the end of it, especially after saying it's for the "hardcore" then pissing all their hardcore fans off bout this issue.
I won't be buying the WiiU. I actually was holding out on buying a Wii for, ironically, a Last Story NA announcements. So I guess I don't need one of those either. Thanks for not wanting my money, Nintendo!
Wow.
I thought Nintendo had a good reason for not localizing these games until those sales figures came up and proved how much higher American sales are for all of those titles.
Ridiculous.
I thought Nintendo had a good reason for not localizing these games until those sales figures came up and proved how much higher American sales are for all of those titles.
Ridiculous.
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