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Whenever I hear the phrase "games time forgot," I always think back to one of my first SNES games -- The 7th Saga.

Sometime circa 1994 or 95, my brothers and I were given an SNES for Christmas (an SNES I still have to this day.) Our present also had two games: Super Mario World and Donkey Kong Country. However, one of my dad's friends from work had an SNES. Being a kindly gentleman, he gave us a basket of games to borrow including: F-Zero, Out of This World, and The 7th Saga. Now I could write my post on OoTW, but it was really difficult when I was younger so I didn't play it much. 

But The 7th Saga ... I played that game for hours on end. It's an RPG developed by Enix before they became Square Enix. You can choose to play as one of seven different protagonists, each with different move sets and stats. There's a human knight who is pretty well rounded, a magic using elf, a priest, a demon, an alien, a dwarf who's similar to the human, and Lux -- 5000 year old robot of a "race" called the Tetujins.

The wise benevolent ruler, King Lemle, has called these seven adventurers together to go on a quest for him to find seven magical runes. (The number seven is quite prominent in this game. Hence the title.) You had to explore different continents and towns trying to find these runes. What was interesting about this game was the fact that you would encounter the other six characters in different places. Some of them would join your party. Others would try to kill you. And in one instance they actually beat you to a rune first and you have to revisit places looking for them to take it back.

The RPG battling system is pretty standard, but to my seven or eight-year-old mind, it was amazing. I loved the turn based system and the different attacks and spells your character would learn. My favorite character was Lux. He had amazing defense, good offense, and a couple of semi-useless Lightning and Laser spells.

Spoiler Alert!!

The big twist comes after your character finds all seven runes. You return to King Lemle and give him the runes. Surprise! He's actually the main bad guy who almost destroyed the world 5000 years ago. He went to the future (your present) and stole Lemle's identity. He uses the runes to restore his power and zaps you with lightning. You wake up in a strange place and find you've been sent 5000 years in the past.

And really, that's as far as I got. Not afraid to admit it, but I never finished this game. Thanks to YouTube and Wikipedia I found out the real ending to the game, and it was about what I expected although a little anti-climatic. Here's a video of the final boss and the ending.



Here's why I never finished it. The game is balls hard! You spend hours and hours grinding enemies just to level up your character. In fact, it was so hard and time consuming that by the time I was about nine, I went out and bought a Game Genie so I could cheat and get farther in the game. I made it so I started with 255 (the max) ATK and DEF and 999 health. Guess what? Even that isn't enough sometimes to get through! By the time you go to the past, there are enemies that have one hit kill spells and they could still decimate my overpowered character (though not as often as before).

Despite being extremely difficult (read unfair), the game is one of my favorite RPG's and really was the genesis for my love of the genre. The story was engrossing and all the places you got to travel were fascinating. You actually explore the ruins of where Lux and the Tetujins were created in the present and then you get to see them alive in the past. Little touches like that really made the game stand out to me. In my mind, it clearly falls under the category of "Lost Classics."

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Dr Spaceman's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2009 14:46
Dr Spaceman
that was a quick post for this monthly musing. good job!
ShuperShawn's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2009 16:03
ShuperShawn
7th Saga is also my first RPG ever and I did actually beat it as a kid which I still don't know how I managed to do it. I loved the fact that the game was straight out balls hard. If you beat 7th Saga, you can beat any RPG out there, no joke.

Good write up! BTW, who's your favourite character?
JulianProxy's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2009 16:15
JulianProxy
I always heard that this game was incredibly hard. A friend who plays this from time to time attributes part of it to the scaling levels of enemies, so just because you leveled up a bunch didn't mean that you could skip the strategy as well. It's a game I've wanted to play just to see how far I could get before ragequitting.
Elsa's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2009 16:18
Elsa
Nice monthly musing!
TripleZer0's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2009 18:27
TripleZer0
@Shuper

Lux was my favorite just because he was a robot and robots rule. Second favorite would have to be Kamil because he was a knight in blue armor and the easiest to understand.
fetusmilk's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/11/2009 18:46
fetusmilk
i kinda remember playing this back in the day and all i remember was all the random encounters. like every other step.
Xaeius's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2009 19:25
Xaeius
Mystic Ark aka (7th Saga 2) was translated not to long ago from www.romhacking.net
Gyrael's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2009 20:24
Gyrael
Holy balls, I played this a few times as a little shit but I didn't know what the hell to do. I shall revisit this sometime.
zod000's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2009 21:00
zod000
I still own this game for SNES, and you are 100% correct about it's insane difficulty. I played when I was older, probably 13 or so, and never finished due to frustration. It was a cool game though, thanks for helping my foggy brain remember it.
bluemeep's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2009 21:05
bluemeep
7th Saga introduced me to the mage archetype, really. In most prior RPGs, I would hoard my MP and never cast anything but heal spells. Esuna? Esuna was a fireball slinging bitch and I loved her for it. She taught me that as long as I have a faithful robot and/or demon companion at my side, I have no reason to not blast the carapace off of any over-leveled sand mantis that gets in my way.
BulletMagnet's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2009 21:10
BulletMagnet
I still have this sitting around somewhere, will probably never beat it...the thing that drove me nuts was that when you acquire your second character, you have to SPLIT gained experience with them, when you were barely getting by level-wise when you were by yourself. Of course, this means grind-ville, and it's a shame that a game which does rather well in several other areas would be crippled by such a basic flaw. Thanks for the write-up, either way.
ShuperShawn's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/18/2009 22:04
ShuperShawn
Grats on front page! Guess I'm the only one who has ever beat this thing.
The Timely Howard's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2009 00:56
The Timely Howard
I always used Wilme because I hated having to manage my character's equipment.
Volomon's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2009 03:18
Volomon
I hated that game because of the difficulty. I'd hate for this to have been my first RPG I might have never played another.
lewness's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2009 04:03
lewness
I've always heard about this one but haven't managed to play it. I might try it one of this days once I get back to playing my older RPGs (I'm looking at you Phantasy Star)
tr0tsky's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2009 11:46
tr0tsky
I got to the past in 7th Saga, but I never managed to beat the last boss =(
mix's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/19/2009 12:40
mix
Awesome, awesome, awesome!

We bought the King of Fighters at some Gargaesale a while back and plopped in in the SNES only to have the 7th Saga come on screen, needless to say this game is awesome!

Plus, you are correct, this game will rape your family and make you watch it's so hard. I did manage to beat it though without cheating just took a loooooooong time.
indigit4l's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/20/2009 13:26
indigit4l
Not to be a dick but here I go... even though this is the internet, can't we have a bit of pride in our writing... I sit here trying to read a good little article and I am stuck, frustrated, unable to continue with "an SNES". This is one of the first things you learn in English class, that "an" comes before a noun. Not an noun, a noun. I shall try to continue but this will bother me the rest of the day.
soulmonarch's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/21/2009 13:25
soulmonarch
This is definitely one of my all-time nostalgic favorites!

I've always wanted to play the sequel, but it's never been translated and my Japanese isn't good enough yet to get through it on my own. ><
Zoel's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/22/2009 02:15
Zoel
You're wrong. search for Dynamic Designs on Mystic Ark patch, its recently just finish so you can take a look into it.


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And about 7th Saga , this game got one the biggest mindfuck ending ever.
joseffthered's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/24/2009 21:51
joseffthered
7th Saga was one great game. I remember the last time I played it I was the Devil and had to fight the priest; That son of a bitch kicked my ass...hard.
TripleZer0's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/25/2009 04:41
TripleZer0
@indigit4l

I actually do have pride in my writing, otherwise I wouldn't be a writer. Actually, "an" comes before a vowel, not a noun; a table works perfectly fine. However, when you say it out loud, "an SNES" doesn't sound weird.

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