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The FEAR: Running out of items

1:55 PM on 11.01.2008, Scary Womanizing Pig Mask 69 comments

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[Editor's note: SWPM talks about the fear of running out of items for his Monthly Musing piece. -- CTZ]

It’s the end stretch of the Cliff That Time Forgot. All that stands between me and Giygas is one last Starmen. What should be an easy bout before the big finale is has taken a turn for the worse though. Paula’s HP is starting to trickle down, and Poo is already in a critical state. As the Starman finishes another onslaught, I’m left to decide my actions. I could stay the course and keep on trying to bat him down, or I could finish him off in one turn with one of Jeff’s Bottle Rockets. The correct course of action is obvious, but a nagging voice keeps me from taking it. “But what if I need that rocket for the boss?”

Jump ahead a bit and were in Rapture; Olympus Heights to be exact. An enraged Big Daddy is trying his best to send me to a watery grave. As I weave around the ruins of a dead city, taking post shots with a machine gun. I’m struck with a profound desire to just pull out my rocket launcher and end this with a heat seeking round. I don’t though, because the same voice is back, worrying: “What if I need that to beat Fontaine?”

As odd as this may sound, my greatest fear in gaming doesn’t come from zombie dogs jumping through windows, corrupted data or even from the Ultimate Embodiment of Evil itself. My biggest fear is that I’ll run out of items. 

I’m convinced that there must have been some kind of traumatic experience that occurred when I was just starting playing videogames that I subconsciously blocked out, but whose moral still remains firmly imprinted in my psyche: “Save every item till the last possible moment.” It’s the only way to explain this near maniacal packratism I can’t help but display. I’ve reached the end of many a game with an over abundance of ammo and supplies, and yet I continue to hoard and refuse to use. Talking about it now, it seems utterly ludicrous and I laugh at how foolish it is, but for some reason, everything changes when I get into a game. The fanciful threat of running out of goods becomes a very real one, or at least in my head.

About half of these will never be used

I wasn’t aware of this unusual quirk until it was directly pointed out to me by a less conservative player. Prior to that I still frugalized my items, but it was far less conscious. Take Megaman for instance. The thought to use the special weapons outside of a boss fight simply never occurred to me. Same was true in many other games, like Super Metroid. As I struggled against a particularly nasty patch of Space Pirates in Lower Norfair, a friend quipped: “Why not just use you’re missiles?” I was flummoxed by this, as I knew that there was a reason I wasn’t using them, that I couldn’t express. It didn’t take long for the words to come to me. “Those are for Ridley.” “But you have like 100, you don’t need to save them all.” And then I responded with the fatal phrase, that summarized my prime most fear when playing a game “But what if I run out?”

Special weapon outside of a boss fight? Inconceivable!

In truth, I can count the times I ever truly run out of supplies and suffered serious in game consequences on one hand. One finger really. Apart from that particularly disastrous romp in Ravenholm, it’s all been (relatively) smooth sailing, which either proves there’s no threat, or my conservationist techniques prevent it. I’m guessing the former though. But despite this, in my mind at least, running out of items is still a looming threat I always need to watch out for. But, I doubt (read: hope) I’m completely alone in this. Plenty of others have discussed and mentioned this phenomena, and while it my not be commonplace, at the very least it’s not a singularity. Which makes it worthy of at least a little bit of examination.

The hoarding of item stems from the belief that they’ll be needed later. Whether “later” refers to a specific instance like a boss fight, or just to a vague time in the future varies from game to game, and moment to moment. The actuality of this threat may be real, or merely induced by the game itself. In BioShock, the threat of running out of ammo is actually quite small, what with the abundance of ammo dispensers, and the prevalence of cash. But you don't feel that way when you're trusty Shotgun (nicknamed Winchester) is running low on bucks, and Spider Splicers keep crawling out of the cracks. It's a great design choice, but it terrified me like nothing else and led to me trying to blast every enemy with my not as trusty pistol (nicknamed Erwin) or my even less trusty Wrench (Nickname not given), having barely touched some of the finer guns in the game by the time the credits rolled around.

I’m that guy

Not all is bad about packrattery though, the surplus of goods it leads makes final bosses quite a bit more manageable, and it a pretty awesome feeling to unload all you’re bottlerockets and bombs one after another on the that one last guy, especially if that one last guy is a complete asshole, like Porky Minch.

Whether it’s good or bad though, my fear of running out of items is, and most likely always will be a part of me when I game. You may think it’s crazy, and you’re probably right, but you try fighting off Fast Zombies and Poison Head Crabs with just a crowbar, and come out not a raving, hoarding maniac ;)

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Scary Womanizing Pig Mask at 10/30/2008 19:27
@Dexter and FuckDuck
Glad to hear it :), what makes EB even tougher is that once you reach the Cliff time forgot, you can't go back, so when you use an item, it's gone.

I did the same thing second playthough of Bioshock XD I used that and the god like Crossbow to a great (and very enjoyable ;) effect.
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KamikazeTutor at 10/30/2008 19:40
You don't even imagine how filled my safe is in Dead Space. I barely use the stuff I get. :3
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Puppy Licks at 10/30/2008 20:03
Dead Space on hard mode makes sure I'm almost out of ammo after every fight, it keeps me tense as hell. Which is a good thing :)
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The-Excel at 10/30/2008 20:25
Is it bad that I'm stockpiling all of the Mementos for the final boss?
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Usedtabe at 10/30/2008 20:25
I'm a hoarder too. I've maxed out my strength in Fallout 3 just so I could carry as many items as possible, you know, "just in case". The cloning item glitch in Oblivion made me feel much easier about using items in that game, but all others I wait until I absolutley have to use an item. Good write up.
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Scary Womanizing Pig Mask at 10/30/2008 20:36
@The-Excel
It's not bad at all, but it's not wholly necessary. Some of the earlier fights are actually harder because of the level difference between you and the boss. The Lip Stick and Razors used automatically when you get K.O.ed though, so if you're sure about saving them, make sure you keep them in storage.
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MrSadistic at 10/30/2008 20:40
In Fallout 3, I have about like 630 5.56mm rounds and around 1200 5mm rounds. That's still doesn't sound like a lot to me. I always get paranoid about running out of bullets, more so than say Stimpacks. Same thing happens to me when I play the first two Fallout games.
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jackal27 at 10/30/2008 22:02
Yeah... I always save all my MP for boss battles, even when there's no boss coming up... I should stop that, haha.
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Rabspat at 10/30/2008 22:44
So fucking true! It's funny that I was just talking about this earlier today.
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Qalamari at 10/31/2008 00:39
I do this too, I think there's something about gamer OCD that makes us do it. I've done it in every game I've ever played. I save special weapons until the next set of item boxes in Mario Kart. I only use the weapon the enemy is using against me in Half-Life so as to keep my ammo topped off on all weapons. I just finished Fallout 1 and ended the game with over 100,000 bottlecaps and enough plasma ammo to kill God. I even do it in Pokemon, I think I have about 50 Full Restores and every Elixir I ever picked up on my save file.

The worst games for this tic to take effect are survival horror games--- those are about 75% inventory management when you can't bear to throw anything away. I think I carried a 27 lb black bass in Resident Evil 4 about 3/4 of the way through the game "just in case." There's something wrong with me, and I'm glad I'm not alone. Nice article, SWPM!
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LordGloom at 10/31/2008 01:32
he wasnt porky in earthbound you twat
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Batthink at 10/31/2008 05:57
I get the fear of losing items on Resident Evil. I suffered a major loss of ammo up against El Gigante in RE4, leaving me with only my pistol ammo after beating him.
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Perry Simm at 10/31/2008 06:17
I know exactly what you're talking about. I'm the Godfather of Useless Stockpiling.

Speaking about Mother 3, I gave every Memento to the Item Deposit Guy immediately after I got it, ending up using not a single one.
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SurplusGamer at 10/31/2008 07:34
In my recent blog I wrote about dead space and how I felt guilty about reloading the game after a particular encounter made me use more ammo than I'd like (I'm playing on hard).

I'd got into this low ammo mess because I hadn't done that before, and the encounter I was facing was much scarier for the fact that I knew I had very little room for mistakes. It was very tense but the game was better for it, and I have become absolutely obsessed with having enough ammo from that point on.

I wouldn't say I'm at the same level of hoarding as you, but I can definitely understand that compulsion.
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CyanideBlues at 10/31/2008 09:36
I get that all the time. Why use potions when there's a Pokemon Centre? I know that ice sword is extremely weak, but what if I face a fire enemy? The worst is when you know you're not an item user, but you still go ahead and buy 99 of every status healer, and 99 lunar curtains, despite the fact that you know you'll never use them.
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Holyetheline at 10/31/2008 10:44
I am like this too. I get mad at myself if I shoot at an enemy and miss. God forbid I waste ammo I probably didn't need anyway.
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Aiya at 10/31/2008 11:48
I know what you mean! I hate running out of items myself! I usually max out whatever potions I buy, but I hardly use them until I really need them. (for example a boss fight.) whenever I run out, I tend to panic a bit ^^;;
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Scary Womanizing Pig Mask at 10/31/2008 18:25
Glad to see there's kindred spirits out there :3

@Lordgloom
He was. Pokey was actually just a mistranslation. I use them both interchangeably though, since they both suit him rather well ;)

@Quala
Funnily enough, multiplayer games change everything, and then I chew through ammo and items (especially in Mario kart) like a fiend XP
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Riosan at 11/01/2008 14:03
I'm the exact same way in shooters. If I waste even one bullet, I feel the need to reload it constantly, and if I'm in a hallway or something, I have to reload every single gun I've got.

And in a game like Crysis, if I'm low on ammo, I'll just charge at enemies, punching for my life. :P
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HeavyD at 11/01/2008 14:09
Games with limited inventory give me the gibilies.
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ace of knaves at 11/01/2008 14:22
I could not fucking agree more. Thank you so much for writing this.
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bluemeep at 11/01/2008 14:23
I have never used an Elixer in all the time I have spent playing Final Fantasy titles. Never.
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MotoRobo at 11/01/2008 14:36
1)I quit trying to beat Chrono Trigger's final boss b/c I hadn't enough megaelixers to counter its' resurrection and had no incentive to start from an earlier save to farm sufficient megaelixers.

2) In the Deus Exes I never had much ammo for my weapons but I had plenty of credits.

3)In both Knights of the Old Republic I beat the game w/life support packs, adrenals, shields, and grenades to spare. Couldn't use them wastefully enough.

4)Mass Effect rewarded me for amassing a fortune (I hadn't need to spend much) w/Specter equipment.

5) In Sigil (Planescape:Torment) there were plenty good items to buy: armor, tattoos, magic weapons, uniques. But the only way to've adequate capital was grinding street thugs. In Curst and afterwards my wealth multiplied beyond what it had ever been but there was nothing to buy.
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Wedge at 11/01/2008 14:40
It's weird because I've just been starting to get over this in games now. I've always especially never used single shot temporary buff items in games. The Witcher helped, as using the buff potions in that had significant and useful effects. But I'm still yet to touch any chems in Fallout or injections in KotoR II...
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Eschatos at 11/01/2008 15:06
I remember running around Oblivion with a few hundred health/magicka potions and poisons. I could never carry as much loot as I wanted because they took up so much space. I barely ever used them because they were worth so much.
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TheDirtyHobo at 11/01/2008 15:24
I cannot express strongly enough how much I do this. Even in a game where items are plentiful like Dead Rising, I'll have an inventory of 4 bottles of wine, a food potency book, 3 small chainsaws, and all 3 chainsaw enhancing books (making each chainsaw good for 2700 kills, or 8100 between the 3 of them), yet I'll still run around fighting things with my bare hands so I don't wear out my chainsaws. I'll run around manually aiming the pistol to get headshots and milk every last bullet I can out of it while refusing to use the 4 shotguns and 2 SMGs in my inventory.

I don't think I have used more than 5 elixer/megalixers between the 8 final fantasy games I've played. I only use phoenix downs, and potions in VERY stressful situations, but that's because they can be bought from the store. I'm not sure if I've ever even used an ether in any of the games, though I probably have at least once. I would much rather backtrack 5 minutes through a dungeon and use a tent if I absolutely had to use a restoring item than stay where I am and use potions and ethers to heal myself to full.

Playing Mother 3 just broke my heart, though. I'm generally an over-grinder in RPGs (it goes hand-in-hand with the no items habbit, I think... I grind to ridiculous levels so I don't have to rely on items), and as such, I run out of inventory space while fighting so many monsters, and I'm clogged up with food items. It just destroyed me on the inside, right from the start, using nut breads to restore 20hp when I was only missing 8hp, but knowing if I didn't use it, one would drop straight into oblivion after the next fight, which is even more atrocious. Screw Fallout, Bioshock, or Mass Effect, these are the deep moral choices that plague my conscience more than those games.
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Oni at 11/01/2008 15:31
I only really do this in Survival Horror games. I remember in the REmake I didn't fire a single grenade or magnum round, and only pulled out the shotgun when absolutely necessary. I also held onto the Self Defense Gun until the end, 'cause it does as much damage as 6 magnum rounds. It was insane, but I still did it.

I also do this in Doom III, in that I only use the big guns when necessary, everything else gets my pistol or shotgun, and God forbid that I use the BFG outside of a boss fight! That's lunacy!
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jorge at 11/01/2008 15:31
Gameshark is my friend. He is a good friend to have.
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PhazonYoshi at 11/01/2008 15:42
I've been trying to do this in dead space, but right now, I'm on the engineering deck with 12 rounds in my cutter, 75 in my rifle, and 3 bars of health. My inventory is empty. I Am Fucked.
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Murumasa123 at 11/01/2008 15:59
This is so common. Hell in most games if i drop below half health or 100 bullits i figure im dead.
I went through Operation Winback only using the pistol even though i knew i had other guns. Even the final boss i just got a pistol bonus and headshot bonus. Every game was the same i just saved it up ready for something bigger even on the bosses.

For me it comes back to the game Nightmare Creatures. When I was a kid i used everything when i got it, same as in every other game i played: Alien trilogy, Command and Conquer, hell even in RPGs i had plenty of potions including 99 of each when i stopped suing them. I never even used them in battle. But in Nightmare Creatures i realsied save the stuff and things get easier when you have harder bits.

Lol Fallout 3 i have 5 mini nukes and the chances of me using them expect in exepectional circumstances is low. And if i drop below 25 stimpacks i buy more.
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Zulu at 11/01/2008 15:59
Conserve everything, that's how I play as well. I swear the only things I ever use somewhat liberally in RPG's are low tonics and revives. In half life 2, I crow barred the hell out of everyone just to save bullets. When I take on a megaman game, I pretty much use the mega buster all the way to each boss. I can definitely relate Mr.Pigmask, I can definitely relate. Incredible write up!!
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AKK at 11/01/2008 16:22
In Bioshock I didn't use the flamethrower thing at all in the game. None of the gel things did I use.

I didn't use the crossbow until the final boss either, when I used it by accident and found the trap bolt to be incredibly strong.

I have this same thing. In Silent Hill 2 (which I'm currently playing), I only use the pistol on bosses, and currently have well over 150 rounds. Also in Resident Evil, I ended the game with over 20 ribbons, because I saved only when I absolutely needed to, because I was worried I might run out.

I simpathize.
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sylphx at 11/01/2008 16:22
I kind of find it funny that lots of people have this item hoarding mentality playing video games but in a general sense don't have the same sensibilities in real life in regards to spending beyond their means.

This of course is a generalization of people as a whole and is not necessarily true, but is interesting none the less.
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grafkhun at 11/01/2008 16:30
I can totally relate to this, well to this extreme level though. I always make sure I have a safety cache of items, I make sure above all that I won't run out of supplies. Like in Zelda, I'll try to beat a dungeon without using anything but my sword, that way for the boss I can have every bomb and arrow at my disposal. I mean although before every boss room there'll be like 30 arrows and 10 bombs in the breakable pots in the corners I still save them. I concur, being item-less in games is kind of scary.
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Gamechamp at 11/01/2008 16:35
You mean, I'm not the only one?

I'm like this in every single game. EVERY SINGLE ONE. If there's any single item you could possibly use, I will never use it. In Resident Evil, I always finish with enough ammunition to equip a small army, plus around a thousand ink ribbons.

Also, sylph: that is so very very true. I guess not having a counter in my wallet makes it a bit easier to spend money.
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Im OK at 11/01/2008 16:47
Yeah, this is why I almost never use firearms in a Silent Hill game. I fear that if I "waste" them on normal enemies, I'll be in deep crap if I get to a boss and don't have enough.

It was particularly annoying in Homecoming, given how little ammo you're able to carry for each weapon. I'd come along an ammo box and it would tell me that I couldn't carry any more. I know this was the game's way of saying "Use the guns, dumbass" but I just said to myself "Well...... if I need to use the gun for something later, it's nice to know that I might be able to backtrack to here later and pick this up if I need it." Then I'd promptly forget that the item box was there and continue not using guns at all. (Getting the infinite ammo Laser Pistol for use in replays was incredibly satisfying, at least for the first playthrough after that, anyway.)

Though this does make it all the more satisfying when I get to the final boss in one of those games and I finally bring out that rifle that, up until that point, I had just been lugging along with me.

But, I guess Silent Hill isn't the best example for this, since the melee weapons tend to be as good as, or even better than, most of the guns anyway.

Also, take Mother 3. Some of the NPCs in the game explicitly tell you that it's okay to use your food items and such, because otherwise you'll just be uselessly cluttering your limited inventory, but even then I still tend to hoard. "Hmm, I'm carrying 8 pieces of Beef Jerky... Boney's almost dead... well... I guess I can spare one or two of them." Well, I'm not quite that bad, but you get the picture.
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Scary Womanizing Pig Mask at 11/01/2008 16:47
Thank god, I thought I was crazy @_@ Glad you all liked it :)
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NoLaw at 11/01/2008 16:49
This is me all the time I collect everything...even junk stuff in the hopes of selling it to buy more. Fallout 3 saddens me because I cant carry every single broken cup and scrap metal I see. I think I get overencumbered every 5 to 10 minutes in that game.
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V3r1n at 11/01/2008 16:51
I too share this fear with ya buddy. I, like many others in this thread, have experienced this with a variety of games. Most notably, as Dexter345 brought up FFVII which saw an inventory stocked with 99 of each purchasable item and even with that, I used magic for all status ailments and health issues.
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bigRed at 11/01/2008 17:37
Indeed I must agree with all above, when I grind in any FF game, no one gets to use magic as that would just be a waste of MP. Use a Phoenix Down? Get real......
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Riovanes at 11/01/2008 17:45
I used to have this problem so bad. o_o

At some point I realized I had it, though, and since then I've been training myself to actually use special weapons and items. You basically want to use the weapon that's powerful enough to win without wasting a bunch of health, but not so strong that using it is overkill.

Like, let's say I'm playing Half-Life 2. I find a small room with 4 Combine soldiers. The really conservative way is to use the pistol, crowbar, or gravity gun - but you'd probably end up taking a fair amount of damage, so it's not actually efficient. Firing off a plasma ball will probably fry all the soldiers with no damage, but then you might (might) have one less plasma ball in a critical situation. The compromise, say a grenade and some shotgun double-barrel blasts, is what I'd probably do now.
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Rosseh at 11/01/2008 18:00
I totally sympathise, apart from Metroid. The worst culprit back in the day was Mega Man. I absolutely hated using anything but the mega buster. But in Metroid you can just go in and out of a room killing things until it drops the items needed. There were also those pipes where the bugs came out, paused, and flew at you where you could replenish pretty much all of your stock.

I think it really did me in watching my brother shoot wildly at crows only to get maulled by dogs flying through the window, no ammo to defend himself. Never again! I cried! Never...again.
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Scary Womanizing Pig Mask at 11/01/2008 18:00
@Riovanes
I appreciate the tips :) Had never actually factored in how much I was losing by conserving. Grenades get almost no use by me though, since I'm terrible at aiming with them, and always end up over or undershooting XD
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Kaspar at 11/01/2008 18:16
Think thats bad?

Try playing WoW without using any skill that has a cooldown of more than 3 minutes - Because you might need it a second later.

Got over that now, tough.
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Gen Eric Gui at 11/01/2008 18:16
I used to do this, and then I started playing the really hard Fire Emblem games and SMT. Fixed me up real good. I actually use my shit now, because in those games you HAVE to.
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Naim Master at 11/01/2008 18:34
After reading so many hoarding confessions , i think WE aren't alone.. in fallout 2 i finished the game using only 3 stimpacks , never touched a stimpack and i got like 998* normal stimpacks, and in RE4 i finished the WHOLE GAME using pratically only the pistol , saving the shotgun for the bosses ( i had the other weapons , but 'im so f**** up that i don't use them even on bosses ...) , and some games even get the paranoia bigger , like in FFIV , i always thought some other more powerfull version of the boss would appear and kill me if i used that damn elixir ( and in fact they normally did ^^ ) ...

*i don't have that many
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Grande C at 11/01/2008 18:41
I'm guilty of this, but I'll take it to the next level. If I witness anyone else exhibiting the same behavior, I'm quick to jump on their case. Usually informing them that they are ruining the spirit of the game the developers tried to instill, and turning the game into more work than fun.
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fetusmilk at 11/01/2008 19:02
in fallout 3 i was over encumbered and walking very slow but had 2 BOS armors i couldnt use(but worth money).so instead of leaving them there, i dropped them and carried them with grab one by one. good thing i was right outside megaton.
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