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The evolution of RPGs

3:58 PM on 01.05.2007, Ishaan 20 comments

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Ahh, it feels good to be back.

This past week I’ve had to contend with a number of issues plaguing my PC, ranging from a messed up registry and corrupted drivers to the sudden short-out of my CD drive and the mysterious absence of that helpful little tool we all call a cursor. As you might have noticed, I didn’t get to post anything until yesterday, when I finally managed to sell myself as a personal slave to the highest bidder in order to raise the money to get my comp fixed.

Needless to say, this left me with limited choices. Two choices, to be precise; Entertain myself with old games that didn’t require the use of a properly functioning PC or stare up at my ceiling until I grew prickly white stubble and slowly bored myself into the afterlife. Naturally, I opted for option #1. So essentially, for the past two days I’ve been digging into a collection of old games including Final Fantasy V, Oracle of Ages and Pokémon Crystal.

I have to admit, I’m almost glad my PC took it in the rear (easy enough to say after it’s been fixed, mind you), since I had quite the time with the aforementioned titles. It was only while playing them that the similarities between these kind of games became apparent to me. It also helped inspire me to write this post and discuss with everyone the evolution of RPGs. Or, if you prefer, the lack thereof.

Before we go any further, do keep in mind that I’m mostly talking about console RPGs here. Sure; technically you could say the same for PC RPGs, but for the purpose of this post we’ll be sticking to their Japanese console counterparts.

The Treasure of Tarmin
A little history: Contrary to popular opinion, Dragon Quest wasn’t the first RPG to be developed for consoles. In fact, strangely enough, the first console RPG wasn’t even developed in Japan. It was Advanced Dungeons and Dragons for the Intellivision. According to Wikipedia, there were two Advanced D&D games developed for the Intellivision; Cloudy Mountain and Treasure of Tarmin. So far, there still seems to be some confusion as to which was released first.

Treasure of Tarmin used a first-person perspective and that immediately sets it apart from most console RPGs that were developed after it. In 1986, Enix popularized the CRPG genre further by developing Dragon Quest for the Famicom. The game boomed in Japan, and since then, we’ve seen 7 sequels in the franchise and 12 (main) games so far in the Final Fantasy franchise.

However, even though there have been so many different iterations of these games, the basic formula of a console RPG still remains the same. Considering the turn-based CRPG formula has worked so well for so many years, developers probably see no reason they should mess with it. Turn-based battles, random encounters, grinding to gain levels, traveling through the use of a world map, character development … these features have all remained more or less the same over the last couple of decades.

Chrono Cross
Some games have tried to deviate a little from the standard formula, though. Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross were both games that featured multiple endings; a trait that was somewhat rare for RPGs at the time. They were also responsible for the removal of random battles. Do note that Trigger and Cross were developed years apart from each other, so it’s pretty evident things weren’t changing much if both those games were considered “breakthroughs” given their similarities.

Recently, Final Fantasy XII also tried to abandon the typical turn-based ATB battle system in favor of Gambits, and it looks like this has worked magnificently for the game. Now, Dragon Quest IX on the DS is to be an action-RPG, too. Hopefully, developers will take note of this and be more open to experimenting with different gameplay methods in the future.

Final Fantasy XII
The only other aspect of RPGs that has changed greatly is the addition of cinematic sequences. This has played a huge role in the development of games in the genre for the past decade to the point where Final Fantasy has become a franchise known for its beautifully choreographed FMVs. Unfortunately, this has nothing to do with gameplay and I have heard people complain about long, drawn-out cutscenes on more than one occasion (Although, personally, I have no issues with them). Blue Dragon, on the other hand, has interactive FMVs, which, admittedly, I haven't tried before, but they do sound rather interesting.

Blue Dragon, for the 360
Another example of a franchise that hasn’t seen much change is Pokémon. Pokémon Gold/Silver/Crystal introduced day and night sequences to the series and Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald introduced bases and beauty contests and a plethora of other features. But again, these were minor changes, and although they did make for great additions, they didn’t change the core gameplay at all. The debut of new Pokémon types and breeds only helped further enhance the familiar routines one performed in the games.

But that's Pokémon. A franchise people have come to love for its familiarity and light-hearted mood. There isn't really much room for change. However, other major franchises which do have the potential to bring about a change haven't done so yet.

FFVIII, perhaps one of the best in the series?
I realize several people are going to call me out on this post. Final Fantasy itself has been through a crazy number of iterations, with each game adding and changing enough to warrant a purchase. FFVII used Materia. VIII abandoned the use of equipment and focused on GFs. IX took the series back to its roots. XI was an MMO. But the point I'm trying to make is, there's so much more potential these games have. More than enough room for change and experimentation, to explore different kinds of gameplay methods.

In retrospect, Western role-playing games (PC and console, both) have been subjected to several changes over the years. While there may be a Diablo or  Dungeons & Dragons beneath the exterior of every Western RPG, games like System Shock (a fine mix of FPS/RPG elements) and The Elder Scrolls have done a good job of evolving and changing over time. Could this be due to the fact that Western role-playing games are often a mix of genres? I sincerely hope we'll see a similar trend with Eastern RPGs soon, though I'm not sure it's possible.


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Snaileb at 01/05/2007 16:07
^ agreed
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Black Mage Slim at 01/05/2007 16:16
so i just want to point out that you said VII when referring to VIII, just want you to see that so it isnt incorrect the whole time.

until Disgea came out i have been disappointed with RPG's recently. to me it seems that they(japanese RPG developers)think you can just give some guy a sword and a girl/world to save and it's a great game. no it's not. maybe its the epic stories that games such as FF:Tactics and VI/VII had that made me love them so much. but when they make games like FFX and KH2, it makes me feel like they're not even making a game. they just wanted to be like "hey! look at these graphics! yeah you have to sit through a 10min. FMV every 10 min. but look!" it just bothers me when it seems like im watching more movies than acutally playing during the game. but i find myself playing my FF games 1, 2, 3(US releases, 1, 4, and 6 respectively)because even though i have beaten them, they are still the great RPG's i know and love.
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CaffeinePowered at 01/05/2007 16:18
Good story, some things I think have changed for better, some for worse. Gambits in XII got rid of the monotony of grinding since I can just run the characters around in an area to level up and the game practically plays itself, but in a battle where I need more strategy I can turn them off and direct it all manually.

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InspecterJones at 01/05/2007 16:24
I kind of have to agree with Black_Mage_Slim, while I do love games that add rpg elements to them (system shock 2, deus ex, etc) I dont want a bunch of action/adventure/whatever hybrids. I feel like the basic formula has stayed the same for a reason, cause it works. There are plenty of rpgs that have certainly been diffrent but asking an rpg to be an action or fps or anything else type of game is silly. What companies need to learn is to take rpg elements and include them in other styles of games, but leave classic rpgs as just that. What is does come down to that makes a great rpg is story and strategy, if I want to play with twitch controls I'll go play a fps or something.
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Ishaan at 01/05/2007 16:40
Thanks for pointing out the typo Black_Mage_Slim. Can't believe I didn't catch that one.

Inspector Jones, you make a good point. While I also agree adding role-playing elements to other games would serve to make them more interesting, I admit I would like to see just how much potential for change there is in regular RPGs. I wouldn't want them to stop being RPGs of course, but one has to admit, the RPG formula is one that has the most potential for growth.
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Cruds at 01/05/2007 16:44
the basic formula of a console RPG still remains the same.

You left out chests why does every RPG has those things? and why does every FPS and adventure games has crates?

Not really a big RPG fan the only one I've finished is Skies of Arcadia. Can't even sit true FF games. I've tried FF VII and I believe FF X the one with the underwater football, half way in the game I'm just done with them. I like RPGs on a handheld but I'm still busy finishing Golden Sun The lost age.

Having that said I'm enthusiastic about Galaxy Rogue. Is it good? I don't know. I never hear anyone ever talk about that one still I think it looks awesome, sure it's a action RPG but that doesn't mean it has to bad IMHO. I liked and finished Swords of Mana and that was action based to. Guess I'm just a big sucker for giant ships that sail trough the sky.
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Vyruz at 01/05/2007 16:49
yeah, what the previeus guys said.
please take in mind, Zelda isn't a RPG, its an adventure game, i see it to much under the subject RPG ¬_¬
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Tlack at 01/05/2007 16:55
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Snaileb at 01/05/2007 17:01
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hikarii at 01/05/2007 17:43
i still feel that Chrono Trigger was well ahead of its time as far as japanese RPGs go, and i really loved the story in that.

personally, i feel the auto grinding in 12 says that we all realize now that grinding is pretty boring, and dealing with random encounters is dated, battles need to become more active and different to keep players from sticking cursors to memory and just mashing the confirm button. i mean, FF12 might just be cutscenes and boss fights, Grinding is just time invested monotony

from what ive seen in blue dragon, i hope the worlds baddies have an aggro system like MMOs do, it would be that when im several lvls above the area, i can just waltz through, but when im stepping into somewhere i dont belong, the creatures will let me know. also, seeing hte enemies on screen is great, its nice that people are finally remembering the greatness that was Chrono Trigger from oh so long ago...


on another note...japanese RPGs have always felt more like ROLL playing games, and western ones are a bit more ROLE playing, i love FFVII but that game is a story i play through with the most adjustment to story being how i treat the girls, Chrono Trigger had a great number of possibilities in its endings and made the game so much fun to play through again, and really brought ROLE playing into the game.

lately japanese RPGs have felt like EA sports to me, sure, a new roster, some system tweaks, and it looks better, but its down at the heart of it, its the same old, tried and true character archtypes and a save the world or lose the girl story.
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heix at 01/05/2007 17:52
Which ever formula works.. I mean that to get a good RPG game pll experiment, elaborate, and emphasize on all kins of RPGs. The costumers are living proof that things can always change, and sometimes for the better.
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heix at 01/05/2007 17:56

PS. That albino girl from FFXIII looks so hot.
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JamesSorensen at 01/05/2007 18:07
LIGHTNING IS HOT!!!!


ME WANTS ME FFXIII & FFvsXIII
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Topher Cantler at 01/05/2007 18:09
Yeah, versus XIII sounds like it could be the greatest game ever made.
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thisissami at 01/05/2007 18:43
i dunno, i like final fantasy the way it is!! the changes it has gone through over time have been enough for me! i mean for me the story is the most important thing, and final fantasy always delivers... agreed that what there's to do is more or less the same, but personally i love it!!! now if FFversusXII is going to have gameplay like Kingdom Hearts II with everything else being like Final Fantasy, I will absolutely love it!!!
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GodLen at 01/05/2007 20:25
No problems with FMVs eather.
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rdaneel72 at 01/05/2007 21:36
I am so old that I can tell you, definately, that AD&D Cloudy Mountain came out first. In fact, the Cloudy Mountain subtitle wasn't added until Treasure of Tarmin came out at least 2 years later.

AD&D was the greatest Intellivision game ever. 8 direction firing. Corridors that remained dark until you progressed through them. 25 years later, and nothing since has scared me as much as standing before a dark chamber and hearing that dragon snoring from within.

Tarmin was too ambitious for the Intellivision. It was a confusing mess.
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GyromiteXL at 01/06/2007 04:03
I liked the Baten Kaitos take on RPG battles, introducing a card playing system.

I'll post more later, I need to get back to the Temple of Time...
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