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The Endgame Syndrome: Why do we abandon games? photo

As most of my Destructoid compatriots know, I await RPGs with intriguing storylines more than any other type of game. I enjoy nothing more than to sink myself into a rich plot, get to know the characters, and most of all, experience some form of emotional fulfillment at the end of the story for the work I've put into playing it. To my surprise, the last few I have looked forward to I've gotten fifty to sixty hours into and then simply never picked up again. Why this sudden transformation from game committment to total disinterest?

Hit the jump to spiral deeper within my addled psyche.

I clearly remember finishing a lot of the games I played for the NES, and I can't blame it on scarcity of product. Between friends that generously shared large cartridge collections and the game rental store down the street (Performance Hobby! I salute you), I played hundreds of games released for the system during its lifespan. Since I started playing often when I was about ten or so, I know I had the free time to complete them, but it seems to me something more was at work as to why I finished those games.

In the case of the games I was most driven to complete, I was so absorbed in them that I thought about them even when I wasn't playing them. Other new releases didn't get in the way because I wasn't interested in them until I completed the one I was playing. Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy X were great examples. I held them akin to reading a great book - by reading other books at the same time, you distilled the purity of the experience of the story.

In the current state of gaming, releases come out so frequently that we constantly have new "stories" to choose from. The biggest catalyst of "Endgame Syndrome" is definitely this factor. Since production values and budgets have risen to new heights, most games are gorgeous to look at. Some argue that one must wade in a sea of pretty games to try to find the ones that are worthwhile, so consumers are constantly sifting through large amounts of content and don't have the patience to spend on completing a game.

Another major factor seems to be length. BioShock was completely engaging, yet presented the story in a shorter timeframe. The more time you have in which to tell a story, the more challenges one faces to keep a gamer engaged. Considering the average attention span is twenty minutes, it's no small feat to create a game that can remain interesting to a player after 40 hours of play. Structural variance is also a key -- If you're doing more or less the same actions for the majority of the game, are they fun to do?

Most difficult of all is the experience of playing an enjoyable game and then abandoning it after committing many hours to the storyline. Eternal Sonata, I'm sad to say, fell into this category. I was pleased with the story, but I didn't think about it when it wasn't in front of me. It leaves you feeling disappointed when Endgame Syndrome kicks in in these instances. I did want to see the ending, but the drive to do so just evaporated, leaving me as confused as waking up naked with an otter. ( I need to stop drinking at those Zoo-To-Do events.)

Is it that games aren't what they used to be, or is it that gamer attention spans have shortened over time? I fear that some of both are present, although I am always hoping to be pleasantly surprised. The shape of the industry that creates these games has dramatically changed. In 1985, few people would have dreamed that games would one day rival the film industry. As a result, more experimental projects may have turned into playable results, which at the very least promoted creativity.

Whatever the secret formula is, recent feedback proves even RPG giant Square-Enix can't always hit the nail on the head anymore. Avoiding Endgame Syndrome is simply a matter of being choosy about what titles you take home -- and even then, there's no ensuring you'll feel the spark. For me, those unforgettable stories that are worth finishing are worth the search, no matter how many duds I have to sort through to get there.

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Orionsaint's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2007 18:53
Orionsaint
Wow I'm the King of abandoning games. Yeah I've abadoned quite a few games over the years, yet still own to this day.

[b]
Every Grand Turismo Game, lol

Final Fantasy 7 I beat, yay! FF8,FF9,FFX and FFX2 I gave up on all of those.

I never beat GTAIII. I haven't played it since 2003. I'm on the last mission. It's a timed mission though, grrr!!! Worst gaming feeling in the world is doing so much work only to be beaten by the clock and having to start over. No thanks! I beat Vice City though. Haven't beat San Andreas, Liberty Stories or Vice City Stories though. San Andreas I have to buy an expensive abandoned airport for my next mission to start, because actor john woods says so and I have like zero dollars. Fuck that! Haven't played it since like almost 2 years ago? Aw well. I'll get back to it eventually.

Metroid Prime. oh brother. It took me a year just to figure out the first planet. A few years back I played it again and managed to reach a snow planet. I thought finally i'm getting into it, but then I have to battle this impossible and frustrating boss battle. So I gave up.

Knights of the old republic. It took me an hour just to figure out how to open a door in the ship. I got bored of it after 5 minutes, same with DoomIII and Ninja Gaiden was too hard. Halflife2 I got sick of the slow down and choppy graphics.

I still haven't beaten Ocarina of Time. I'm at some confusing dungeon that well confuses me. so fuck that. I gave up on Wind Waker back in the day, but went back to it a few years ago and i'm proud to say I beat it. You all know the ending of Wind Waker too. Looking for pieces of the triforce or some long ass sailing bullshit like that. I'm stuck on Twlight Princess. I'm at that snow castle where ya snowboard. It's a confusing long ass level with frustrations around every corner. I gave up. I'll get to it eventually.

I gave up on Oblivion. I have no idea what to do. I just wander around and talk to people who tell me more information. I pick fights wuth guards and run away. I also reach points in the envioronment where my character can't go any further, wtf?

I beat Lost Planet though, yay! Not Saints Row though. I just stopped playing it. It got boring. Same with Call of Duty II and Rumble Roses. I beat Bioshock though, yay!

I played Halo1 and was bored to tears. Played Halo2, bored to tears. Halo3. I played the farthest I have in any halo game, but i'm bored of it now and the multiplayer bores me as well. All I play is Gears of War multiplayer.[/b]
Orionsaint's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2007 18:57
Orionsaint
I meant actor James Woods
Shadow502t's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2007 19:15
Shadow502t
Interesting post and comments. Personally, I finish games I start unless they are pure and utter crap within the first hour or so. BioShock, Graw, Graw2, Prey, Oblivion, HL2, F.E.A.R, R^:Vegas, PGR4, and the list goes on. Mostly shooters, but some RPG's as well. I spent 100+ hours in Oblivion. I like getting all the main content done, and I want the satisfaction of having completed something. If it's good, I'll do it again (F.E.A.R. about 9 times, R6: Vegas about 5, etc.).

I try to get less games, but spend more time with them. And... I don't mind if a shooter is done in about 7-8 hours. That's often better than the 20+ that Doom 3 took first time through... most of it all the same.
Xelotath's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2007 19:32
Xelotath
Counting only my GC, PS2, Wii and 360 games, I have 60 unfinished games, most I only played for maybe 5 or less hours. And yet I continue to buy each games that comes out that I want. Maybe 50 of them are really good games so I can blame : less time to play, less motivation, anime, work that gets me tired. Maybe I should start to finsh those that I'm near the end, like wind waker or paper mario 2. What is funny is that I still play my old games(snes, nes)and I actually finish them.
I would probably consider me more of a collector than a hardcore gamer now.
Capn Birdseye's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2007 20:55
Capn Birdseye
I have been playing games as a hardcore gamer for over 20 years now, and I can honestly say I finish more games now than I used to as a kid.

Alot of the games released pre 2000 really did suck, the quality of games has increased immeasurably since then in my opinion.

If people finish less games now than before, I would put it down to other demands on your time, and that life's priorities have shifted.
Fenx's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2007 20:56
Fenx
I never finished Chrono Cross, but not because it got boring. The damn second disc keeps crapping out on me!
Burnt Meatloaf's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2007 21:17
Burnt Meatloaf
1) Games are too heavily scripted, so they get predictable.

2) Companies focus on production value and detail rather than variety.

3) In the 90's, developers found that gamers are more likely to buy games for the sake of just playing the game, not reaching a specific goal. Engagement is more important than drive and accomplishment.

I have very high standards, so I choose my games more carefully, and play them longer. I really can't imagine spending $60 (or in the case of the Wii, $30 to $50) on a game and only play it once. If you only play it once, how good is it, really?

There are games I bought in the 90's, like Dungeon Keeper and Viper Racing that I still play frequently. A lot of newer games put me to sleep.

We need more strategy elements in games, more adventure games, and dynamic levels. Unfortunately, those games don't sell well. The mass market is still happy spending gobs of money on "disposable" games, so that's what is pumped out daily. I don't know anyone with fewer than 30 games for their DS, regardless of the "quality" level of each game.

* Capn Birdseye: "Alot of the games released pre 2000 really did suck, the quality of games has increased immeasurably since then in my opinion."

In what respect? Graphics and presentation has improved immensely, but core gameplay hasn't changed much. I like Nintendo's message of sacrificing graphics to focus on gameplay, I just hate that they've gone to the extreme and are just tossing out any weird quirk they come up with and being cheap with the production. Like any 3rd party developer, they have a couple really good games a year, and a hundred garbage titles.

Quality, by which I mean DEPTH, is very rare. The WOW and SecondLife genres aren't making things any easier.
Orionsaint's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2007 21:18
Orionsaint
Yeah Capn Birdseye. You're right. I turn 35 in November and I can't seem to find the time or energy. My body gives out. I used to be able to play games 12 to 15 hrs straight. Now I may play 2 to 5 hrs.
Reeper's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2007 22:03
Reeper
Maybe it's not necessarily the attention span has been shortened, as it is the industry becoming flooded. It's hard to stare and play with one shiny toy when a new and shinier one comes out. It's also challenging to try and stay with one story when you know there are others out there to explore. The anticipation of finishing one story and going to find another is one the problems (at least in my case sometimes).
Necros's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2007 22:16
Necros
Sadly, I have this problem as well, but I've been actively working against it lately, trying to focus on fewer games at once.
Samit Sarkar's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2007 22:36
Samit Sarkar
I’m just going to copy & paste from a comment I posted on a story that Dale North put up on 9/27 about an interview with Phil Harrison where Harrison claimed that “not that many people finish games”:

Resistance: Fall of Man (just the last level, “Tower”, is left)
Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories (I can’t be more than halfway or two-thirds of the way through the game; that’s why I never picked up Vice City Stories)
True Crime: New York City (something like 90-95% done)
God of War II (also about halfway or two-thirds done)
Guitar Hero II (argh...fucking “Free Bird”!)
Black (I actually haven’t played this one at all, even though I bought it in the beginning of the year)
Bully (less than 5% through this one)

For me, it’s because I just don’t have enough time to dedicate to games anymore. I’m in college, and I also have a nine-hours-a-week work-study job — as such, I don’t have too much free time, and much of the leisure time that I do have is spent sleeping and watching TV. Strangely enough, like Xelotath, I continue to buy games even though I haven’t finished any of the aforementioned ones. I may spend $450 (not including tax) on games before the end of the year: Ratchet & Clank Future, Guitar Hero III, Rock Band, Assassin’s Creed, and Uncharted: Drake’s Fortune. I’m not yet sure that I’ll be buying all of those games, but it’s definitely a possibility...and I have no idea when I’m going to be able to play them all.

Another reason — one that many commenters above me have mentioned — is that something new comes out before you’re finished with the game that you’re playing. I remember playing the hell out of Guitar Hero II and True Crime: NYC until God of War II came out in March, and then I played that until the summer hit, which is when I started working 9-5 and all my free time vanished. Oh, well...hopefully I’ll be able to beat “Free Bird” before Guitar Hero III comes out...
Robert's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2007 22:59
Robert
I found FF12 to be entirely forgettable after the first 5 hours or so. Even if I focus on one game at a time, chances are other, more appealing things will take over - like a social life or even TV. FF12 was the only game I played for a while, but after wasting hours on it, I felt no satisfaction from the ending or final 20 hours of the game.
Mxyzptlk's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/14/2007 23:46
Mxyzptlk
I'm really bad at this... it's rare that a game holds my attention all the way through. The last few games I can remember that did this were Beyond Good & Evil (which I went through and replayed a second time immediately after I beat) and Psychonauts. Right now I'm in the middle of Metroid Prime 3, and it's still keeping me gripped. But Twilight Princess and Super Paper Mario I just faded away from.
dnl2ba's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/15/2007 00:12
dnl2ba
Same.

The sad part is that I skimmed the article, and then I barely glanced at the comments.
UNDERSTAR's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/15/2007 00:30
UNDERSTAR
I stay away from rpgs cause theyre time consuming and doesnt require but time to beat which I dont have. I play a shitload of games but never beat them all. The only games I play now is either fighter games or fps ie TF2. Hell, if I didnt have to go to work, Ill be playing games all day before, during, and after fucking!!
GrayFox's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/15/2007 01:19
GrayFox
This is on the front page of digg right now. Cool!
kawitchate's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/15/2007 02:10
kawitchate
i blame Halo.

i mean, i blame Halo 3 for my latest bout of Endgame Syndrome. it's the reason why i haven't finished BioShock yet (and i'm post-reveal too!) and totally abandoned games like Scarface (halfway through), Fable (10 hours in), and Forza 2 (halfway through Career mode) - games i was playing before Halo 3 came out.

i try and make it a point to beat RPGs however, no matter if i'm tired of them or not, just to get the whole story. for example, i had to power through the last quarter of Rogue Galaxy just to finish it. and don't even get me started on FFXII.

i'm currently playing Persona 3 and Endgame Syndrome is sorta creeping in (i'm 50 hours in) because my stats are maxed and i'm getting bored of grinding to level up - thank GOD the story and characters are interesting enough to keep me going.

good read!
Fading Star's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/15/2007 02:41
Fading Star
Good job, Colette. I usually finish the games that I set out to play sooner or later. You just need to stay determined and keep your gaming queue low.
Anarpis's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/15/2007 07:54
Anarpis
Like others have said, something new comes out that we want to play more and what were currently playing gets put on the back-burner.

This just happened to me over the last two weeks. I had been playing Persona 3 and Pokemon Pearl and then Phantom Hourglass came out, which is what I've been playing exclusively. In that same time I also bought the Daxter PSP Slim bundle along with a few other games, so now my "to play" games pile has grown further.

I had been trying to make an effort to play one console and one handheld game at a time so I can actually finish the games in my "to play" pile. I had finally gotten though DQ8 by not starting anything else why playing it - and I"m very grateful for doing that becuase DQ8 was great.

As soon as Phantom Hourglass is done (in the dungeon to get the 3rd pure metal) it'll be back to Pokemon to finish that up (have 7 badges) and hopefully pick Persona 3 back up. Of course there's that PSP....
XCWarrior's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/15/2007 09:40
XCWarrior
Besides the fact that was written so poorly I had "endgame snydrome" trying to get though it, it was complete bullcrap.

The problem with games nowadays is that they are too short. And if you are expecting a good storyline for a shooter, you are out of your mind. People just want to shoot things, and that's what they get. That's why a game like Halo 3 doesn't deserve better than a 5/10 because if you an beat the one-player one mode overnight, than it's a joke of a game.

I still to this day, though I know I'm the minority, play a game through no matter what. That includes Tales of Symphonia when I got my Wii and LOZ:TP. Besides Wii Sports, I still playing TOS most of the time until complete. New system or not, you finish the story. That's what I always say.

And most games have way better storylines than movies, so it's easy to get through them. I have no idea what you are talking about there.
Vanor's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/15/2007 10:15
Vanor
I think Burnt Meatloaf put it pretty well. Seeing as I've played lots of games, and read books, and watched movies, and TV, when all developers do is put the actual emphasis on "story" in a game, then really, would you just be better off watching a movie or reading a book? Don't get me wrong, I have no problems with stories in games, but when you do that at the expense of gameplay, then really, again, why play it when you can watch a movie or read?

But usually when I've played games with story, I've seen so much media, that my mind usually starts picking it apart. They get cliched and predictable. Plot twists? Saw them coming miles away. Love story? Dry and boring. Back in the day Resident Evil and Metal Gear Solid were jaw-dropping brand-new genre-defying breakthroughs in video games. Now they're just the status-quo.

And like Meatloaf said, games of *quality* are few and far between. Games that you play because they're *FUN* and not for any hackneyed cliched plot or characterization or any of that crap. I'm not saying games don't have to have plot or be artistic, I mean look at Katamari Damacy, but I'm saying you can't sacrifice gameplay for story or you pretty much invalidate the idea that you're making a game in the first place.

I'd have probably quit playing games by now just because of this alone, but luckily Capcom still makes games that feel like games, so Monster Hunter alone is why I bought a PSP, and why I"ll be buying a Wii now.


Where else you gonna play a game where you fight a giant crab while wielding a hammer that meows when you use it.
BS3 Owner's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/15/2007 10:24
BS3 Owner
LOL! I played LAIR for less than 5Minutes before throwing it in My Rubbermaid bin w/ the rest of my PS3 titles never to touch it again! Utter CRAPOLLA!

Beautiful but sucks in every other category!

( Oh yeah just in case i had a friend over, I DL'ed a Once beaten through game save. lol! )
Destructotronix's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/15/2007 11:46
Destructotronix
I honestly think what the author is describing is just a natural thing that happens with age. Face it, you don;t enjoy anything as much as you do when you percieved it through a child's eyes.
yungfu's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/15/2007 13:14
yungfu
personally, games need to evolve. i believe it a combiantion of most of the points raised here. im a hardcore gamer of 15yrs. the last game i finished was portal. but before that i finished only a few in between. i forced myself to finish a few games but i couldnt. see, the problem is were all familiar with the genres.

rpg = level up to beat X
strategy = amass a good or large army
fighters = deplete life bar
racers = get to the finish line/customize ride
shooters = bang! bang!


although companies try to innovate, its not really much of a departure from the formula. theyre sticking to "if its not broken, why fix it".

but here comes portal, for me it was a good mix of gameplay and story. the gameplay was different and fresh. it held my attention till the end because it didnt get old fast. compared to other games for example take "stealth kill". games hype it as "kill unsuspecting targets in a number of ways". its fun for a few moments but when it gets old, its over.
KyleGamgee's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/15/2007 15:52
KyleGamgee
This is a very recent thing for me. I blame time constraints mostly. I am monogomous when I play a game. I only play one at a time. I stopped playing Kingdom Hearts to play FFXII. I'm going strong on FFXII with 120hours clocked, but I finally grabbed myself a copy of Shadow of the Colossus. Halo 3 came out so I bought myself a 360. I got the acheivement from Aegis wing, and I'm playing through Halo, but I'm also playing Hexic for some easy gamerscore points.

What the hell is wrong with me?! I was playing FFXII and $560 later I'm playing HEXIC??!! WTF?
king3vbo's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/15/2007 16:31
king3vbo
I suffer from this "syndrome" as well, more than most I think. As a kid I didnt, I played Chrono Trigger about 20 times over and over, and I finished every SNES RPG that I owned. Now, I think its because I spend a shit ton of money on games, and I dont have to wait for my birthday or christmas to get 1 new game. I can buy them whenever I want, and as such I have more games than I have time for. Like right now, I would love to finish FF12, but Ive only put 30 hours into it since I bought it a year ago..... and I would love to finish Soul Nomad and the World Eaters, but between TF2, Portal, Halos, and other games I dont have time.
Kryptinite's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/15/2007 17:59
Kryptinite
Great article!!!
Fronz's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/15/2007 18:31
Fronz
i was another endgame syndrome victim until last winter. then i got the ps3 and haven't even been compelled to buy a game for it since then. ps3 changed my life. thank you ps3.
Darkhalf's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/16/2007 12:47
Darkhalf
Quite interesting reading. I am having just that exact problem with Persona 3, I invested more than 60 hours and the rythm of the story development can't match with the grinding one so it has become a bit tedious.

Any game expecting to last more than 40 hours should have in mind that repiting the same schema over and over isn't the way to achieve it.
naia-the-gamer's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/16/2007 20:02
naia-the-gamer
I'm glad people are still responding to this, because I meant to say something, but didn't get a chance to respond until now and was afraid it would get buried.

I think some of it has to do with age in some respects. I'm much more impatient with games now than I was as a kid, and I don't have the patience to finish a game if it's not doing it for me. When I was younger I actually used to do that just to finish the game or play every game in a series.

My first experience with endgame syndrome was with Final Fantasy X. Sorry Colette, I know you liked it. I'm even an old-school FF fan. But I found the characters in FFX so boring that I got tired of playing. I only made it through about a third of the game. I was playing it at a friends place so I never wasted money on the game. To this day, I still feel a little guilty. I like to finish what I start.

Since then I've come to embrace the endgame syndrome, because otherwise I would never get over my backlog to play the games I really want to play. Being an RPG fan it always takes me longer to get though the games I play and I always have something in the back burner. I haven't even started Metroid for example.

What helps me battle the endgame syndrome is to mix up the kinds of titles I play. I learned this trying to get through Disgaea. I loved the story and the characters, but the game took forever. I put 200 hours into the game and barely scratched the surface other than beating the story. I felt drained after that and didn't want to touch an RPG for months. I played quick casual games and even took breaks to play something else, which is something I had never done before (I'm a one-game-at-a-time kind of girl). Since I just finished Blue Dragon I will make sure the next game I play isn't another 70 hour RPG.

Metroid Prime 3 is actually looking pretty good now that I think about it....
flynsk's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2007 12:40
flynsk
Most games I've abandoned recently have been due to the fact I get stuck, then have neither the time nor inclination to search a large area (Casltevania:AOS), or replay until I hit the objective (Black).

It's much more appealing to me to pick up something new that won't be a potential waste of my limited free/alone time.

I played Portal straight through in an evening this past weekend, and that was about perfectly suited to my gaming lifestyle, cause I can knock it out, then go back for the bonus levels during little breaks.

I enjoy exploring game worlds - I'm an adventure guy, but find lately I only invest time in a game if it's more linear with defined objectives - I need a payoff.
CyberSkull's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/17/2007 16:58
CyberSkull
I still think about Chrono Trigger even today. Soo damn good.
Lightthrower's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/18/2007 14:41
Lightthrower
I agree with you Colette, most of my PS2 games i bought were never finished. I usually play 5-15 hours before getting disinterested in a title.
Takeshi's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/23/2007 09:15
Takeshi
Sometimes if I don't finish the game, I pick it up later. But then I start al over again because I don't now what's going on again. Some games have tackled these problems like in Dragon Quest VIII and the other game I can't remember the name of. You get a little story about what happened before. That a good option. But then again I should finish the games I like. And why don't I? I'm confused
yourfriendawk's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/23/2007 10:20
yourfriendawk
My roomy and i were just talking about this the other night. He and i both have about 10 games we have started and would love to finish, but for some reason our attention and will to finish them has totally diminished. I Beat Bioshock and started playing through it again, got to the last level and i haven't finished it off for a month now, same goes with my roomy, got to the last boss,"eeh, no real drive to finish it." I think that, and i haven't read all the posts so if someone already said this, sorry, games now aday have given us ADHD. We have played games like the new ones before, and so after playing them a little while or beating them, we don't go back for the same experience we had before, we just look for new games to play and dream and wish about.
Right now i'm looking forward to playing Assassin's Creed... if i wanted to, i could just get my fix playing Prince of Persia, but we as gamers want that new challenging experience that we haven't tried before. And i think that the internet doesn't help this fact. I'm constantly on here looking for news of new games or information on new games. Back when i really got into game (N64 generation) I saw news about new games through magazines and or my homies at the local video game store(Thank you GameGuy). Granted there may not be as many fresh and original games as there maybe were 10-15 years ago, but there are still great games out and coming out. It's just us, always wanting the new, fresh hot shit item!
GRAVITY's Avatar - Comment posted on 11/06/2007 13:40
GRAVITY
I think another factor is that people are more willing to throw lots of money twards games nowdays, not saying that i'll pay 200 a game. saying out of personal experience. if i am having a good month with lots of money laying around i'll buy several games and not finish but one, but when i am shorter on money and don't buy games... i tend to put more time twards a game that isn't finished.
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