I have yet to play this game although interestingly enough I have the soundtrack for it. You make it sound deeply compelling considering how outspoken you are of it connecting with you on a personal level. I like Silent Hill, and you're right, it is odd that they would switch the man for a woman in the movie. But I suppose it is for the grander appeal. I like the movie, one of the few based on a game that I believe was executed well.
This was exceptional, really. Thanks for the read.
Also, I fixed that Deus Ex post. :P
Check it out and tell me if it makes the cut now.
I still plan to play this game, I'm just having a hard time finding a copy. So I won't watch your ending, who knows, maybe I'll end up with the same one?
This all kind of reminds me of scissors blog about Fragile-another game I want play but can't find. And again, I'm finding similar qualities with you guys and myself. Awkwardness in socialising with others, not truly connecting with "manly" dudes, and I prefer to stay at home too.
Seriously, stop copying me guys. I know, I know, I'm awesome and everything, bla bla bla... It's getting creepy ok, just stop it.
I, though, often don't subscribe to mainstream beliefs. I've played, read and watched plenty of media which showcases the innner and outer emasculation of a character. Hell, Lords of Shadow was actually half-way there (if only Patrick Stewart shut the fuck up and let a cutscene or two explain something).
I can sort of relate to you on the bar scene, but I've been forcing myself to go to bars and clubs for much a long time now that I've starting to get into it. I've danced with random people and had a good time. I've even gotten piss drunk and sang Bohemian Rhapsody with my friend/brother Jim (who was totally sober) and two other people at a bar.
Still, this game sounds absolutely amazing in your description. I've heard it's not the greatest of the series, but it was supposed to be an enjoyable romp. I'll definitely seek it out.
This was such a hard game to find. Actually, it took me a month to find. I went all over the city, and finally decided to go to the gamestop across from where I live and...yeah...they had it...lol
That store ever has anything, so I amused they wouldn't have it.
Dude, I went to 9 different stores in one day in the city trying to find that game, but nothing.
SH:SM was -the- reason I bought a Wii.
SH:SM was very promising and I truly enjoyed it until I hit the third or fourth time I had to run past those monsters without any kind of weapon. It wasn't scary for me - it was annoying. Like, super annoying. Also walking around town just looking at things got really boring after a while. I did like those "psychological" pieces, though -- I thought it added a nice touch.
I wouldn't say it was as good as Silent Hill 1-3, but I enjoyed it's great story and the exploration
Truer words have never been spoken. I feel like you just described me in a nutshell. Ironically, my friends are all male. I don't think I've ever had a female friend. Many acquaintances, but no female friends.
Personally though, I can't relate to it much. I can't relate to being a macho asshat much neither, but there are certain traits to that I've found beneficial. One of them namely, being able to fight - a primal survival mechanism I remember reluctantly having to learn. I think it's more accurate nowadays to consider violence a human thing, rather than a masculine thing, though obviously males've been the biggest propagators of violence in history. To take it further, I'm intrigued by violence in general - not to the point that I'll read up on serial killers, but I mean the visceral action of it. The adrenaline build up, the tension during, and the release afterward. Which kinda makes it weird that I don't like UFC. Probably 'cause I get my fill through fighting games. And beating myself up.
Second of all, this blog intrigued me so much that I read up on the game on Wikipedia. Near the end it says, about your ending, "If Harry was a slacker during the game, the video shows Dahlia slapping Harry, taunting him and calling his novels "shit", saying that nobody reads them while he does nothing to fight back allowing Dahlia to abuse him. This ending is called "Wicked and Weak." " So I'm not going to comment on that (as I have not played the game and I do not know you), but it seems like if you at least tried to make a difference, you should get a better ending than that. Maybe you just used up all your strength, idk.
Beyond that I disagree with your assessment that Harry is not brave (again, this is based purely on the Wikipedia article). He has to evade ice monsters and take a leap of faith into a bottomless chasm, among other things. There's being brave, there's being fearless, and then there's being a survivor, which sounds more like Harry: doing what you must to survive, but not really striving to excel. The bare minimum, but that's a kind of bravery in itself.
Finally, just as a point of interest, apparently I am not very similar to you guys; I don't really think "Awkwardness in socializing with others, not truly connecting with "manly" dudes, and I prefer to stay at home too" describes me too well... although I do not get along well with others romantically, so there is that.
Unfortunately, my close group of friends does have some of those stereotypical alpha-male-leaning tendencies.. most frustrating to me is homophobia. I'm not gay, but that's only because of my love (and paradoxically, paralyzing fear) of boobies (yet I don't have the guts to ask a girl out). It's really quite infuriating.
Anyways that was incoherent and stuff but I need to do homework so I will now play super meat boy (you know it's true).
"but it seems like if you at least tried to make a difference, you should get a better ending than that."
I've gotten all the endings for the game. When I first played it; I played it conservatively. You have to understand that this game reads everything you do. For example, you can look at a women's breast if you want, and depending on that, your ending will vary.
"There's being brave, there's being fearless, and then there's being a survivor, which sounds more like Harry: doing what you must to survive, but not really striving to excel. The bare minimum, but that's a kind of bravery in itself. "
Well, the game forces you to do that to progress, but you need to play the game. The bottomless pit is actually one of the best parts of the game! It's not what you think.
You're right, I didn't put "effort" or picked certain choices in the game which is why I got that ending of the game, but nonetheless it was still fuckin' awesome! I very much enjoyed it.
"Finally, just as a point of interest, apparently I am not very similar to you guys; I don't really think "Awkwardness in socializing with others, not truly connecting with "manly" dudes, and I prefer to stay at home too" describes me too well... although I do not get along well with others romantically, so there is that."
I am the direct opposite of you. It really is strange. Romantically I never had a problem, but when it comes to friends; I never really had a lot. I know, it sounds strange, but that's how it always worked for me. Most of my friends are girls, and I've had successful relationships with them, but I never had a "guys night out", or many guy friends. You would think I would be bad in the romantic department, but I'm actually pretty good at it.
Does it give you any lenience? Say you accidentally oogle a boob, it would have to be a pattern of behavior like that to get you the ending related to that?
"Well, the game forces you to do that to progress, but you need to play the game. The bottomless pit is actually one of the best parts of the game! It's not what you think."
If I ever get a Wii, I will check it out.
You should give me lessons. :P Everytime I find that I am romantically interested in a girl, I am to scared that I will mess it up to try anything.
Actually, most of my acquaintances are female, but my three best friends - practically the only people I hang out with outside of school - are male. I guess I just found the guys who weren't total jerks -- although we still basically do the same stuff as most people, I guess, just with less douchiness. If that makes sense. We're competitive and constantly insult one another but it's all in good fun.
Yeah, it does have to be a pattern of some sort. If you stare a certain pic long enough, or stare at the numerous sexual imagery, then the game decides your ending.
Dude, the game is kind of two games in one. I left it out, but there is a therapist session in between each "level". How you answer the therapist questions determine your ending as well. I wrote about this about in the blog, but later took it out 'cause of spoilers.
I answered every question honestly. For example, some of the questions are: Have you ever cheated? Are you scarred of the outside world? Were you popular in high school? I answered each of those question as if I was the protagonist in the game.
Damn, I hope I didn't spoil anything for you. I left that and other things out on purpose.
I never had a male freind. I had male acquaintances, but no friends. I get along with women better. In fact, I went on a date about a week ago; it went alright, nothing happen, but I'm not afraid to ask a girl out. My longest relationship was of 3 years. Actually, I wrote a blog about it. Read it if you're interested: How I learn To Be A Better Man
Dude, PM when you get the ending! I would love to know what ending you get 'cause it can change your presumption of the game. You conclusion may not be the same as mine, but that's what makes the games so great!
Spoil anything? I read the entire Wikipedia article, including the plot synopsis. It's already spoiled XD
However, it really does sound like it would be a game you have to play to really experience, and it didn't make a ton of sense, so I think I could still enjoy it.
That's OK, I'll be your male friend! :D Not sure if it counts over the internet though. Have you ever been to a dtoid meetup to see any of these people you feel similar to irl?
I asked a girl out last week for the first time... over facebook... now I think she's avoiding me XD The downsides of dating! It has not been as much of a blow as I expected, fortunately.
I notice that video is labelled as the normal ending. What are the other endings?
There's a anime ending.
A Space ending.
A really dark, fucked up ending.
there's a.... I've said too much. :)
Take that video. Harry is in a lose/lose situation there. He takes her abuse, or tries to find outside help to resolve it (because it certainly sounds like she's done listening to him) then he's perceived as a weak and pathetic man who can't deal with his own problems. If he stands up for himself... well in that situation he has to physically defend himself... he's automatically charged with domestic violence and is known as the guy who beats up women.
I can't say it isn't complicated being a woman. I'm sure they are going through similar things what with having to be a modern woman who is empowered, but there's still the pressure to fill the roles they were expected to fill in the past. But I can say from the perspective of the the gender that used to be "on top", there is still very much the expectation to keep that mentality while still accepting equality. I'd like to think I'm good at the latter as I believe in gender equality, but trying to ignore the contradictions and keep both balanced is really tough.
Not to say I don't mind Macho stereotypes in my media. I mean, there was a time about... 7-ish years ago, where it was this constant push to portray men as... well maybe not feminine but certainly much less masculine. And people got sick of it, and we've been hit over the last few years with more macho media. What bothers me the most though about this recent stuff is how close to home it hits. Maybe my memories are tainted by youth, but I remember the "macho" heroes of the past as being pretty absurd. Nobody could possibly seriously act like that, could they? I hear dialog in Gears of War, or any modern military shooter, and I know scores of douchebags that are exactly like that. It's incredibly depressing, as these are the people who still at my age give me shit for being interested in gaming.
The fact that I get scared when I play a game, but can fearelessly smack a guy in his jaw (even though he was my friend and don't worry it wasn't really, really haard) completely boggles my mind.
P.S He was okay and we're still okay
Of course, this is obviously just my opinion and everyone has theirs. If anyone honestly wants to give this game a shot, I only recommend them to rent it because as I said, as a video game it's very poor and a game like this would have been better executed as a "choose your own adventure" novel.
Man that wife is such a cunt.
The issue of emasculation really does need to come up more often not just in modern day literature and media but in our everyday conversations between everyone. It's a whole side to the male psyche that gets stepped on every day and it's something I think every guy is somehow dealing with in one way or another.
And not just because I love Bukowski.
And not just because I love Bukowski.
I'm not sure how it is in your part of the world, but in Ireland, the media has finally begun to highlight the issue of suicide and depression in young men being far to prevalent. Interesting to see a game approach the topic.
I know this game, among all of the 3rd party studios that developed Silent Hill get a lot of flack. Especially, because it has a vastly different formula and is a remake (or re-imagining) of a game that many hold dear to them. But, if you want an honest opinion from a diehard fan, I actually prefer Shattered Memories over the original Silent Hill, seriously. I think this game did far better at letting the player relate to Harry and his situation with a modern, less cryptic approach, and it worked. I understand how many find Harry to be "brave" for running from the demons and setting out to find Cheryl, but you have to realize, he is RUNNING from the demons. The story deals with a lot of inner turmoil for Harry. Not once does he acknowledge that the demons even exist to others, he simply runs from them and pretends he never encountered them. The ice sections of the game resemble the memories he's choosing to deny and the sad truths that he will have to face. Though, this theory is ending dependent. In one of the endings, these are taken as illusions put in place by another equally important character.
I feel Shattered Memories does many things that other games have been afraid to do, play with the player, creating a connection between the player and the game. Climax studios took a big chance by not allowing Harry to attack in this game. That takes away a huge part of the Male identity/archetype, being able to fight for your cause. But, it wasn't too farfetched of an idea, if you've played any of the original Silent Hills (Excluding Origins & Homecoming), the fight mechanics were clunky and unreliable in regular situations, given the character you were controlling had no experience in combat, thus running was usually a safe alternative. My friend (male), whose typically a soft spoken and kind individual, who played it HATED the running sections of the game. He kept shouting "This is so stupid, I can't do anything!" over and over. He was extremely frustrated that there was no way to fight back, save for a temporary flare. So, I ended up eventually taking over for him on those parts. But, I think Climax studios had something, maybe unintentionally going for them with the running sections. Watching a male player, put in a helpless situation, where he is forced to run, instead of stand up for himself, will create a dissonance between what the male wants and is expected of him and how he is forced to give up those archetypical reactions to a situation in order to ultimately win.
Regardless of how many reviewers will bash the running sections or how it's not "Silent Hill", I think anyone who is a real Silent Hill fan will appreciate Climax studio's attention to detail, unique psychological profiling, and throwbacks/nods to previous Silent Hills.
P.S. I think Harry was given a more respectable death in this game than in Silent Hill 3.
P.S. I also can't wait for Catherine to be released looks like a good game that does a good job of portraying the goods and bads of relationships outside of the more the better philosophy.

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