Haxan, I think he is acting like that in the post for the funny. J-Holmes is not too serious (I hope not anyway).

I love Hudson.

lol, got a good laugh from the article but some of the comments here are pretty hilarious aswell.

Im still pissed I payed $90 for something to tell me to do pushups and run in place

How does Nintendo DARE, to be successful with something that doesn't cater to my tastes?! Also know as the HARDCORE taste, the best taste there is since someone labelled it! HOW VERY DARE YOU, NINTENDO?!

Also, there's more butthurt here than in a all you can eat brothel.

Man I could see myself bitchig too if the prodominantly more social audience is leading the gaming industry.

How dare they come into my plane of exsistence and NOT like what I consider games.

So on one hand we have C4 who still hasn't picked up on the fact that I was being sarcastic, and on the other hand we have Haxan who thinks I was so sarcastic that I was being douche.

Man, I can't please anybody today!

I'm going back to playing Bit.Trip Beat.

@Haxan

....So then why did he buy it?

@flabzilla:

Because i'm a sheep? that might be the best reason :-P.

Let's stop the Halo bashing for just one sec, and fully realize what has just happened.

Wii Fit just outsold Halo 3.

Haven't these people ever heard of going outside and, I don't know, running? Jogging? It's certainly more effective than wiggling around on some board. You don't need a game (not really) to tell you you're fat, and that's what makes me angry. Nintendo is making money off of stupid people who think some workout program is actually going to help them lose a ton of weight, which it won't.

Only in America :(

@Jon,
I certainly don't think that you were being a douche. I'm saying that you put yourself so far in your direction that at times it almost seems like an agenda. Jim can get away with being sarcastic with similar articles because we know that Jim is a fan of video games on all systems and will take a crack at all of them if given the chance. But with you, it's a different story. It's almost as if you take any opportunity to get a dig in on any other system so long as it's not the Wii.

I've seen comments that you've made on others' blogs that don't mention the Wii in any way, shape or form, taking aim and comparing to how the Wii is better. No other editor here takes this approach to anything. It just comes off as completely unprofessional. And from an editor of all people.

Please don't take this personally. I think that you're a great writer. I really do enjoy your views on a lot of things. Your reviews are oftentimes very insightful. And I think it's a great thing that you're sticking up for a console that gets a lot of flack. It could use a champion to remind people that it really does have great games on it. But at times, it feels like you go overboard.

Take your Dead Rising review, as an example. You had so many people mention that they couldn't take the review seriously because of your known slant. That's just counter-productive. A Wii review from you comes across as preaching to the Wii choir, while simultaneously being viewed as outright bias viewed by others. It should be illuminating to all (well, to most, anyways). This behavior can only make fans of other consoles more defensive. They'll go from disliking the Wii to outright hating it. And that just seems like it goes against what you're fighting for.

Back in the day, Summa was all about his anti-Wii agenda. I just don't see much difference in his crusade and yours. And I know that you're so much better than that.

In short, I would love to see you gain some level of balance. In my perfect world, you could still love the Wii best. But you'd recognize that there are other systems doing great things, and they're not a threat to your interests when they do. I would love to see a review by you for a game on any other system that shines a light on the great things it does without a single reference to the Wii.

I've got a lot of respect for you. I also have expectations for your potential. I know that you can reach it.

Nobody hear realizes that getting fit, isn't fun. At all.

Who ever wanted to just run laps during P.E.? Fuck that noise, you wanted to fucking play some god damned Dodgeball or Touch/Flag Football. Fuck all this bullshit about doing 30 pushups and 30 situps, that shit was more boring that watching paint dry and then going to watch molasses run down the Himalayas in the winter time. Without a jacket.

At least WiiFit try's to make exercise slightly enjoyable.

If I was just running all day, I'd probably just run to the nearest Mcdonalds and play with my DS while eating a Big Mac fucking damnit, and I've actually done that.

That's how BORING regular exercise is. Free or not, boring is boring.

The problem with that, Jon, is that there is a double standard in place for the Wii. If you were to review 360 and PS3 games exclusively, no one would think badly of you. If you were to review Wii games exclusively, the crowds would be up in arms because you have a Nintendo bias. The fact that you focus a lot of attention on the Wii is extremely rare and extremely refreshing and it doesn't come off as biased at all. I understand that you have things that you look for in games and the Wii satisfies those desires. If others take issue with that, that is their problem and you shouldn't have to do anything to appease them.

I think we need to be aware of the difference between a game and an exercise machine. Can we really count a product that is marketed as a weight loss machine? Indeed it can be considered a game, just like rolling a ball around the floor could be if we came up with enough rules. However do we compare ball sales with Halo 3 sales?

I think there needs to be a line drawn.

Here's the line:

If people have fun with it... FUN with it... FUN with it... it shouldn't matter whether it is a "true" game or not.

Agree with megastryke's arguments over Haxan's

I do find the fact that Holmes reviewing Wii games is the equivalent of samit doing sports games. There is a sort of expertize and vested interest in the product and a much more CRITICAL eye for reviewing its games.

But then again i completely respect Haxan's opinion and queries and think he made some valid points from a perspective that tries to see holmes reviewing more PS3/360 games, but not to mean that there is a bias for the Wii.

Don't know why we are plotting your career path and strategy holmes, but hell, i hope you're happy with all the advice.

Hmm, let's see. The Wii has millions of units out in the wild, has a game that Nintendo is touting as the next big thing, and we act surprised when the next big thing sells a ton. DOesn't sound surprising.

@Everyone that doesn't like Halo 3 being outsold-
Go buy another fuckin' copy of Halo 3 and shut up. WiiFit became number one because people were swooping up on 5 or 6 copies at a time at the local Walmart. If you don't like the results, go do something about it, namely buying more Halo 3.

Hah.

Every one of Holme's Wii arguements ends with him relying on 'the majority' as part of his Nintendo superiority complex. Well here's the big flaw with Holmes' stuff.

The majority is usually stupid.

The majority say McDonalds is the best restaurant ever.. does this make McDonalds the best restaurant? NO
The majority still buy Britney Spears albums... does this mean she's on top of the music industry? NO
The majority elected George W Bush to a 2nd term... does this mean he's instantly better than any 1 term president? NO

Yes, but how many people actually still play Wii Fit regularly? Most people I know that bought it played it for a month then hid it in a corner.

But enough talk, have at you!

And Mario Kart DS will likely outsell them both.

Can we go home now?

@Jon,
I appreciate you giving it some thought. As for you reviewing games on other systems and would it change the way people see you, I think it would go far. I know that I would really like to see what you have to say about games on other systems. And I know that most, if not all, of Destructoid's readers appreciate having multiple opinions on all titles. It hink that overall it would be welcome.

A side bonus would be that it would give readers a broader idea of your tastes. People would be better able to gauge how your reviews would apply to them if they have a greater understanding for what games you enjoy aside from Wii games.

Analitic does make a good point. You shouldn't do this just because a bunch of people (including me) are bitching about it. I just think that it would help validate your opinions in the minds of a larger audience. But that is just my opinion. So take it for what it's worth.

Finally, I do want to restate that it is good for the Wii fans to have a champion in you. The system does get a lot of flack. And while much of it is deserved (and which console doesn't deserve some amount of flack), it does kick out some great games that shouldn't be overlooked. I know readers like megaStryke like to see that they are being represented.

That fanboy-ish , it's OK to like the Wii , but to defend Wii Music and Wii Fit is just wrong ...(and I don't like Halo 3 , but at least is a game)