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A chance encounterIndeed on the MS Rewards. Plus my birthday is on Tuesday, so I'll get to see what the 25 cent special gift is! :D
Maybe I missed a post but I’m surprised no one has mentioned that Mike Patton label Ipecac is releasing the Portal 2 soundtrack next month. Which I find fitting since Patton has worked with Value doing voice work in Portal and Left for dead. (http://www.ipecac.com/releases)
I'm a little disappointed in the Achievement rewards. 2%? Really? You get 10% back on Wii U digital purchases just for buying the more popular deluxe system, so unless I'm missing something, 2% doesn't sound like much.
Cool, it's my birthday in just over a month let's see what they got for me... But 24 points back on 1200 spent is better then nothing I guess lol
It would be nice to see higher rewards for even higher gamerscore, for the people who have really put some time and dedication into it. I mean, if 25,000 qualifies as a Legend, what does my soon-to-be-200,000 make me? (Door opened, jokes incoming!)
I guess an extra 5 points here and there may be able to make up the difference when you want something that costs 340 Msp and you only have 326 or something like that.
2% is the high-end reward? That's more insulting than just not having a program at all.
And something tells me the birthday "gift" will wind up being crappy avatars and themes and other downloadable detritus that nobody actually wants.
And something tells me the birthday "gift" will wind up being crappy avatars and themes and other downloadable detritus that nobody actually wants.
congratulations, video games are now the same as credit cards. my, how far we have come.
i can't wait to tell my child where i was when microsoft instituted a lame reward system that is more offensive than useful.
i can't wait to tell my child where i was when microsoft instituted a lame reward system that is more offensive than useful.
People, at least you're getting something from the score you're racking. 2% is so much better than nothing at all. I'm still interested in that "Special gift".
If you're one of the many who just KNOW without a doubt that XBL is what makes online gaming great then I'm sure you're going to be pretty damn excited about this discount!
Just for fun though....if you've been paying for live since 2005 you've dumped around an extra $420 into your 360. If you buy an XBLA title worth $15 your discount will save you a whopping $0.30! So if you think about it you only need to buy about 1400 games and your discount will pay for your XBL sub!!!
Haaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahaha............
Just for fun though....if you've been paying for live since 2005 you've dumped around an extra $420 into your 360. If you buy an XBLA title worth $15 your discount will save you a whopping $0.30! So if you think about it you only need to buy about 1400 games and your discount will pay for your XBL sub!!!
Haaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahaha............
@LittleBigD: That first paragraph sounded like PR tool speak. Where did you copy and paste that from?
That said, being a legend at 25k almost as pathetic as the 2% they're offering. This is a perfect example of why I sold my 360. MS doesn't give a flying eff about gamers.
That said, being a legend at 25k almost as pathetic as the 2% they're offering. This is a perfect example of why I sold my 360. MS doesn't give a flying eff about gamers.
Rewarding people for building up a score that measures their "worth" as a gamer, often times by playing games they don't even enjoy, just encourages people to have a more empty, ugly, and ultimately meaningless time with their videogames.
Oh man, I love getting free stuff on playstation plus and watch microsoft strugle to make something worth it.
But still, it's good to have some sort of discount, I think...
But still, it's good to have some sort of discount, I think...
I've said this before, and I'll say it again. If Microsoft want to make a gesture that is not entirely empty they should reward me for what I've already put into their shitty system instead of laying down placative incentives for new customers.
Don't get all the furor over this, considering it's a reward for doing something that most people would do anyway. I guess some people are just desperate for any excuse to "troll."
I just wish it were applied retroactively, but oh well. I can always make more money. Did you guys know that things cost money? Wow! Even food! EVEN BEER!
I just wish it were applied retroactively, but oh well. I can always make more money. Did you guys know that things cost money? Wow! Even food! EVEN BEER!
This is what M$ is doing.
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It's cool. I'm sure it's in the [beta]. Ha-ha! Seriously nothing to scoff over though. I'm sure it will expand though. When? Unknown, but you can expect it will.
Also I want to point out to the "coupon cultist" -- PlayStation Plus if fucking lame. Utterly dick limp lame. If you are too utterly dumb to realize you are being used for nothing more then a "coupon book" then that is on you. Do not act like you are somehow superior, or better. It does not do jack shit. Oh my, you get into a [beta] which is actually a glorified demo! Woohoo! Sense the sarcasm? I bet you do not. Oh I have cloud saving though.. Ha-ha. Flashmemory. Boom. Better, portable and more reliable then "cloud saving". Oh, but I get free games -- no, you do not actually. RTToS (Read The Terms of Service!) You do not actually own anything other then themes, avatars, select minor dlc tidbits, and whatever you actually purchase using your "coupon book" with a discount.
Worth it? Not really. Fun to laugh at the wannabe elitist? Yup. It's like an oversized Gamefly, but without you being able to decide what goes in and for how long. What a riot of laughter. Keep thinking it's awsome Loosers.
Now cry, whine, and be mad at me. Ha-ha-ha! I can already hear the internet in an uproar.
Also I want to point out to the "coupon cultist" -- PlayStation Plus if fucking lame. Utterly dick limp lame. If you are too utterly dumb to realize you are being used for nothing more then a "coupon book" then that is on you. Do not act like you are somehow superior, or better. It does not do jack shit. Oh my, you get into a [beta] which is actually a glorified demo! Woohoo! Sense the sarcasm? I bet you do not. Oh I have cloud saving though.. Ha-ha. Flashmemory. Boom. Better, portable and more reliable then "cloud saving". Oh, but I get free games -- no, you do not actually. RTToS (Read The Terms of Service!) You do not actually own anything other then themes, avatars, select minor dlc tidbits, and whatever you actually purchase using your "coupon book" with a discount.
Worth it? Not really. Fun to laugh at the wannabe elitist? Yup. It's like an oversized Gamefly, but without you being able to decide what goes in and for how long. What a riot of laughter. Keep thinking it's awsome Loosers.
Now cry, whine, and be mad at me. Ha-ha-ha! I can already hear the internet in an uproar.
@Smurfee Mcgee: Agreed.
Also, these rewards are pretty mediocre, but I don't see what's worth complaining about. They could just continue doing nothing if they wanted to. If the birthday gift is shitty, and it probably will be, just don't use it. Problem solved!
Also, these rewards are pretty mediocre, but I don't see what's worth complaining about. They could just continue doing nothing if they wanted to. If the birthday gift is shitty, and it probably will be, just don't use it. Problem solved!
greyseal": 2% is the high-end reward? That's more insulting than just not having a program at all. "
You are moaning about something you do not need to do a thing about to get, free shit=insulting. First world problems man.
You are moaning about something you do not need to do a thing about to get, free shit=insulting. First world problems man.
"You are moaning about something you do not need to do a thing about to get"
If you don't have 25000 in achievements, you have to spend time/money to get that many.
If you don't have a gold account, you have to spend at least $9.99 to get one.
In my case, I'm only missing the latter. I don't do much online stuff on my 360, so if I wanted to earn enough to cover the cost of a Gold membership, I would need to purchase 40000 MS points worth of stuff in a single month.
People aren't complaining that they're getting free points; they're complaining that this is a terrible offer, particularly when compared to similar offers made by Nintendo and Sony.
If you don't have 25000 in achievements, you have to spend time/money to get that many.
If you don't have a gold account, you have to spend at least $9.99 to get one.
In my case, I'm only missing the latter. I don't do much online stuff on my 360, so if I wanted to earn enough to cover the cost of a Gold membership, I would need to purchase 40000 MS points worth of stuff in a single month.
People aren't complaining that they're getting free points; they're complaining that this is a terrible offer, particularly when compared to similar offers made by Nintendo and Sony.
@ flea friend
You don't have to do any of that, and if you truly think that, then you are terrible at basic economics.
You're basically saying you have to spend a lot of money in order to save a few bucks. Repeat that sentence to yourself a few times, and think. Think really, really hard.
This is more a reward for people who play enough to have the gamerscore for it, and now an added incentive to those who look forward to playing more games. To wit: I play games to have fun and otherwise engage myself in a challenge I enjoy via puzzles or competition, enjoying when I achieve the satisfaction of my personal victory; and this now adds a nice little bonus on top of that satisfaction. If I wasn't wanting to play a game to have fun, I'd likely spend more time reading books of fiction to have the pleasure of a means of escapism via the influence on my imagination.
If you truly think you have to spend more money to derive such satisfaction from your time spent playing games on your 360, then you genuinely have my pity, though it comes with a lacing of contempt for it, given your reasoning. And if the "deal-breaker" for you is this "offer," compared to Nintendo and Sony, then I can only offer you my contempt.
You don't have to do any of that, and if you truly think that, then you are terrible at basic economics.
You're basically saying you have to spend a lot of money in order to save a few bucks. Repeat that sentence to yourself a few times, and think. Think really, really hard.
This is more a reward for people who play enough to have the gamerscore for it, and now an added incentive to those who look forward to playing more games. To wit: I play games to have fun and otherwise engage myself in a challenge I enjoy via puzzles or competition, enjoying when I achieve the satisfaction of my personal victory; and this now adds a nice little bonus on top of that satisfaction. If I wasn't wanting to play a game to have fun, I'd likely spend more time reading books of fiction to have the pleasure of a means of escapism via the influence on my imagination.
If you truly think you have to spend more money to derive such satisfaction from your time spent playing games on your 360, then you genuinely have my pity, though it comes with a lacing of contempt for it, given your reasoning. And if the "deal-breaker" for you is this "offer," compared to Nintendo and Sony, then I can only offer you my contempt.
And here i thought no one could do worse than my platinum rewards nintendo buttons.
Further proof that ms is another company on its game related way to failure.
*proudly puts on all his nintendo buttons*
Further proof that ms is another company on its game related way to failure.
*proudly puts on all his nintendo buttons*
This reminds me why I prefer trophies. My Gamerscore reflects that I have played way more games for the Xbox 360 than my PlayStation 3, but a gamefly sub and lots of free time before I got a PS3 will do that.
Anyhoo, the gamerscore slush pile is broadly unimpressive. You can almost never find anyone with a score above 100k that has mostly completed games, or at least the full 1000 points off the disc. They can be tiny ones, easy ones, that add up to this inflated score, or just a lot of easy games like Avatar, which practically nobody completed, they just spent all 2 minutes getting 1000 points and moved on.
On the other hand, PlayStation 3 uses trophies, the harder the goal, the better the trophy, and getting a platinum meant you stuck with it all the way. Sure a game like Avatar would hand you a platinum in less time it takes to microwave popcorn, but the slush pile of tiny scores scattered from large quantities of games wouldn't amount to platinum trophies.
The trophy system is so much more thought out. I really hope that whatever MS does, they rethink their more archaic system because these little meta-scores can actually be a nice touch to a good game, collection achievements and online achievements aside.
Oh! And uh... RABBLE RABBLE PALTRY REWARDS RABBLE RABBLE!
Anyhoo, the gamerscore slush pile is broadly unimpressive. You can almost never find anyone with a score above 100k that has mostly completed games, or at least the full 1000 points off the disc. They can be tiny ones, easy ones, that add up to this inflated score, or just a lot of easy games like Avatar, which practically nobody completed, they just spent all 2 minutes getting 1000 points and moved on.
On the other hand, PlayStation 3 uses trophies, the harder the goal, the better the trophy, and getting a platinum meant you stuck with it all the way. Sure a game like Avatar would hand you a platinum in less time it takes to microwave popcorn, but the slush pile of tiny scores scattered from large quantities of games wouldn't amount to platinum trophies.
The trophy system is so much more thought out. I really hope that whatever MS does, they rethink their more archaic system because these little meta-scores can actually be a nice touch to a good game, collection achievements and online achievements aside.
Oh! And uh... RABBLE RABBLE PALTRY REWARDS RABBLE RABBLE!
@doewnskitty
"You're basically saying you have to spend a lot of money in order to save a few bucks."
The example I used in my post was for me. In my case, I don't really use Xbox Gold for multiplayer, so I'd essentially be buying a month solely to get in on the incentive program.
"If you truly think you have to spend more money to derive such satisfaction from your time spent playing games on your 360, then you genuinely have my pity, though it comes with a lacing of contempt for it, given your reasoning."
I don't think that at all, so I guess I miss out on some free pity-contempt... Pintempt... or contity.
The point of my post was to give some perspective on why a person might think this is not a great offer. If you don't meet the two criteria for the rewards program (25000+ points and a Gold membership), you will have to spend money to get to that level if you don't have around 25 retail games to get the score (or mixtures of retail, arcade, DLC, etc). Likewise, if you don't have a Gold membership, you'll have to buy that, too.
If you already have both, great! You can get a small return when you buy XBL stuff, and you get a $0.25 gift on your birthday. Just because it's better than nothing, however, doesn't put the offer beyond criticism. That's why I mentioned Sony and Nintendo, as they have better offers for their services.
"You're basically saying you have to spend a lot of money in order to save a few bucks."
The example I used in my post was for me. In my case, I don't really use Xbox Gold for multiplayer, so I'd essentially be buying a month solely to get in on the incentive program.
"If you truly think you have to spend more money to derive such satisfaction from your time spent playing games on your 360, then you genuinely have my pity, though it comes with a lacing of contempt for it, given your reasoning."
I don't think that at all, so I guess I miss out on some free pity-contempt... Pintempt... or contity.
The point of my post was to give some perspective on why a person might think this is not a great offer. If you don't meet the two criteria for the rewards program (25000+ points and a Gold membership), you will have to spend money to get to that level if you don't have around 25 retail games to get the score (or mixtures of retail, arcade, DLC, etc). Likewise, if you don't have a Gold membership, you'll have to buy that, too.
If you already have both, great! You can get a small return when you buy XBL stuff, and you get a $0.25 gift on your birthday. Just because it's better than nothing, however, doesn't put the offer beyond criticism. That's why I mentioned Sony and Nintendo, as they have better offers for their services.
@ flea friend
You're still trying to basically say that you have to spend more money in order to get money back. And I'm saying that you're thinking backwards, in that sense. This is less an "offer" and more like giving a little something back to those who were and are fans enough to spend that money, anyway. It's like getting 1% back on your credit card purchases. You don't have to spend any money to begin with, that you weren't going to spend anyway.
You're trying to apply some sort of backwards logic in order to say it's a "bad deal." If you truly are the sort of person who reasons out that you need to spend that money in order to gain, what you call, this offer, you are someone who should probably have someone else manage your expenses for you until you learn better for yourself.
You're still trying to basically say that you have to spend more money in order to get money back. And I'm saying that you're thinking backwards, in that sense. This is less an "offer" and more like giving a little something back to those who were and are fans enough to spend that money, anyway. It's like getting 1% back on your credit card purchases. You don't have to spend any money to begin with, that you weren't going to spend anyway.
You're trying to apply some sort of backwards logic in order to say it's a "bad deal." If you truly are the sort of person who reasons out that you need to spend that money in order to gain, what you call, this offer, you are someone who should probably have someone else manage your expenses for you until you learn better for yourself.
@doewnskitty
"This is less an "offer" and more like giving a little something back to those who were and are fans enough to spend that money, anyway."
But it's not, though: companies put incentive programs like this in place to bring in new consumers, and to encourage existing customers to continue paying for the service. The goal is to convince ineligible XBL members to pay for Gold and buy enough games to meet the minimum gamer score threshold, and to convince eligible members that there's yet another reason to keep their Gold subscription going.
"It's like getting 1% back on your credit card purchases. You don't have to spend any money to begin with, that you weren't going to spend anyway."
I have a credit card like that, but I don't have to pay a recurring fee to get that benefit. In the case of the rewards scheme, even if you have the required gamer score, you still have to spend money on a Gold subscription to be eligible. Whether you were already going to spend it or not is immaterial.
"If you truly are the sort of person who reasons out that you need to spend that money in order to gain, what you call, this offer..."
Dude, I don't know how much more clearly I can say this: I, the rakish and much-maligned flea friend, do not have a Gold membership. Therefore, I literally have to spend money in order to take advantage of this offer!
Anyway, if you want to show what an idiot I am, all you need to do is point out that I'm continuing on in an internet discussion with someone whose counterpoints always include at least one personal insult. If I knew someone like that, I'd just shake my head and walk away.
"This is less an "offer" and more like giving a little something back to those who were and are fans enough to spend that money, anyway."
But it's not, though: companies put incentive programs like this in place to bring in new consumers, and to encourage existing customers to continue paying for the service. The goal is to convince ineligible XBL members to pay for Gold and buy enough games to meet the minimum gamer score threshold, and to convince eligible members that there's yet another reason to keep their Gold subscription going.
"It's like getting 1% back on your credit card purchases. You don't have to spend any money to begin with, that you weren't going to spend anyway."
I have a credit card like that, but I don't have to pay a recurring fee to get that benefit. In the case of the rewards scheme, even if you have the required gamer score, you still have to spend money on a Gold subscription to be eligible. Whether you were already going to spend it or not is immaterial.
"If you truly are the sort of person who reasons out that you need to spend that money in order to gain, what you call, this offer..."
Dude, I don't know how much more clearly I can say this: I, the rakish and much-maligned flea friend, do not have a Gold membership. Therefore, I literally have to spend money in order to take advantage of this offer!
Anyway, if you want to show what an idiot I am, all you need to do is point out that I'm continuing on in an internet discussion with someone whose counterpoints always include at least one personal insult. If I knew someone like that, I'd just shake my head and walk away.
@ flea friend
You're still the one suggesting that you have to spend money in order to receive something back, when you and I know both full well that you can save more money by keeping it in your pocket.
Make all the justifications you want, stretch it and drag it out all you want, but you cannot get around the the fact that you are saying that you have to spend more money in order to get something back. I cannot spell things more plainly than I've already stated, because I have already put it at the most basic manner I can. If you want to feel you are being insulted, that's on you, because you are saying you have to empty out your own pocket further than you normally already would, in order to put a little back into it. Backwards logic at its finest, sorry.
I'll make it even easier for you: If you are not the sort to be inclined towards buying anything off the Xbox Marketplace nor even getting the Gold membership, you are far better off, economically, in keeping that money unspent and in your pocket. The only people this "offer" benefits are the ones who already were subscribed, and are inclined to buy DLC and more off Xbox Live. Those who aren't, don't have to, and ultimately are not missing out on all that much.
It's your mountain of a molehill, I'm just pointing that out to you. But if you're interested, I do have a cheap beachfront property in Ohio that you could invest in, cheap, if you'd like to spend a little money to make a little. The economics of the deal I have in mind for you works out to roughly the same as you see this "offer" from Microsoft.
You're still the one suggesting that you have to spend money in order to receive something back, when you and I know both full well that you can save more money by keeping it in your pocket.
Make all the justifications you want, stretch it and drag it out all you want, but you cannot get around the the fact that you are saying that you have to spend more money in order to get something back. I cannot spell things more plainly than I've already stated, because I have already put it at the most basic manner I can. If you want to feel you are being insulted, that's on you, because you are saying you have to empty out your own pocket further than you normally already would, in order to put a little back into it. Backwards logic at its finest, sorry.
I'll make it even easier for you: If you are not the sort to be inclined towards buying anything off the Xbox Marketplace nor even getting the Gold membership, you are far better off, economically, in keeping that money unspent and in your pocket. The only people this "offer" benefits are the ones who already were subscribed, and are inclined to buy DLC and more off Xbox Live. Those who aren't, don't have to, and ultimately are not missing out on all that much.
It's your mountain of a molehill, I'm just pointing that out to you. But if you're interested, I do have a cheap beachfront property in Ohio that you could invest in, cheap, if you'd like to spend a little money to make a little. The economics of the deal I have in mind for you works out to roughly the same as you see this "offer" from Microsoft.
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