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The Conduit is getting a sequel? Really? photo

So, a game usually needs to turn a profit in order to warrant a sequel, right guys? Mushroom Men 2 and Dark Void 2 will likely never be created, but we'll definitely be seeing Just Dance 2 and Assassin's Creed 3 in the next few years. Sell over a million copies, and you're a success, sell less than half a million, and you're flop. That's what the gaming industry tells us, so it must be true.

So what's the deal with this rumor about a sequel to  The Conduit? The gang at G4tv seem fairly certain that it's happening, based on some time they spent with High Voltage Software at GDC. Does that mean that The Conduit was a success? From what I've been told, the game is yet to sell a half-million copies worldwide, which makes it far less successful in terms of sales than other FPS Wii titles like the Metroid Prime 3 and the Call of Duty games.

Still, it looks like the hundreds of thousands of copies of the game that did sell may have been enough to warrant a follow up of some kind, though it may end up being a lower-budget, hand held title like Valkyria Chronicles 2. Either way, maybe all the FPS ideas that High Voltage had planned for The Grinder (which went from being a FPS to a top-down shooter) will make their way into The Conduit 2. If so, I'd be up for it. The first game certainly had it's moments, and if those moments could be expanded upon, a sequel could be a beautiful thing.

The Conduit 2 teased at GDC? [G4tv]








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VGFreak1225's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2010 01:03
VGFreak1225
The thing about The Conduit was that it was one of High Voltage's first foray into a more serious game, since the majority of their titles had been licensed, and thus the bar was not as high. Thus their first foray into an FPS was going to be somewhat rough. But if they can learn from their mistakes, I think a sequel could be excellent.
pedrovay2003's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2010 01:04
pedrovay2003
...The Grinder isn't an FPS anymore? Wikipedia says that the PS3 and 360 version are top-down and the Wii is still FPS... Is that true?

If so, then I just COMPLETELY lost interest in the PS3 and 360 versions of the game.
RenegadePanda's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2010 01:05
RenegadePanda
The thing that really killed it for me was the shoddy voice acting and over simplified plot, as a result the entire game was fairly predictable. The Conduit segments were pretty forced and killed any pace the game managed to build up to that point.

And as always, aiming with the remote sucks completely.
Kyle MacGregor's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2010 01:07
Kyle MacGregor
I'm cautiously optimistic.I bought that hype hook line and sinker last time, so it will take a lot of improvement to get me to sink my teeth into a sequel.
Monodi's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2010 01:07
Monodi
Well that migth be interesting.

Hey, also check your inbox, Holmes :D
matrixdude171's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2010 01:10
matrixdude171
Riiight, and in comparison to the other consoles (which is what it wanted since it pushed its graphics so hard) it is a stinking mess off cut and paste fresh off of the pooper.
hpv's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2010 01:17
hpv
you're

contraction of you are: You're certain that's right?
pedrovay2003's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2010 01:19
pedrovay2003
@Renagade

I have to disagree about the aiming -- I think if it's done right, the Wii remote kicks the shit out of dual-sticks. I thought The Conduit's aiming was fantastic.
Kage Trueblueastrax's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2010 01:19
Kage Trueblueastrax
I just got a Ps3, so they're gonna have to REALLY make this one AMAZING for me to pick this over Uncharted 2 or CoD.

Having said that, I've actually enjoyed the first one considerably, despite the hammy moments and repetitive enemies. The multiplayer was standard, but enjoyable, thanks to the IR pointer, and the storyline was enjoyable, at least from a gameplay perspective.

If HVS can clean up the overall experience, I'll be all for a TCon sequel.
adrianboy's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2010 01:21
adrianboy
Well, it might end well, we might get a better sequel like Resident Evil 4, or we could get something like Bomberman Act Zero or Driv3r.
Knowyourfactskids's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2010 01:24
Knowyourfactskids
@VGFreak1225 It was not their first '' foray '' into the FPS genre. Maybe on the Wii it was but they have had a little experience in the past. They did America's Army True soldiers on the 360. They did the content port for COD 2 Big Red One on the Gamecube. High Voltage has done serious games before. Here ya go http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Voltage_Software They have been around a while and guess what they still suck.
VGFreak1225's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2010 01:36
VGFreak1225
The thing is, I do get the impression that they really want to make a good game this time, otherwise they wouldn't have taken the time to make their engine, or the fact that they picked a publisher that they thought was as dedicated as they were towards the game, which ended up being Sega (which could be translated as "HERP DERP SEGA SUCKS", but you get the point.) I'm not guaranteeing that the game will be great, but I do believe that they have their heart in this one. They'd have to be to decide on a sequel considering the sales of the first.
Serkderg the Herkderg's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2010 01:38
Serkderg the Herkderg
Put some music in the multiplayer, yeah? I have to play Metal Gear music on my pc when I played The Conduit online. Very bland without music.
Dv8thwonder's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2010 02:10
Dv8thwonder
The Conduit 2 should just be a multiplayer only FPS.
Mr Jonson's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2010 02:29
Mr Jonson
The Conduit is a crappy IP with a lame generic story. Only the engine itself and the controls are worthwhile.
Jackstick's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2010 03:00
Jackstick
I seriously hope this is better than the first.
CUDpwns's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2010 04:03
CUDpwns
Did Red Steel sell well? it wasn't received very well by critics but it is getting a sequel that seems to have improved on the first in a lot of ways. The Conduit 2 could be similar to Red Steel 2 in the sense that it will improve on the first in an attempt to redeem the series.
Matthew Razak's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2010 06:24
Matthew Razak
@CUDpwns Red Steel sold really well because it was a launch game and no one knew what they were getting into. In fact its crappyness could be one of the many causes of people shying away from mature games on the system.

As for this news, if you consider the shooter an indie or niche game then it sold really well, so maybe that is what they were doing. The budget wasn't that big on the original. There was enough goods stuff in the first game to want High Voltage to take a second chance.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2010 06:58
Xzyliac
@Knowyourfactskids
I am fairly certain he specified it was their first original IP which is what put the bar over the top.

Surely you didn't create an account just to say that?
PEICanada7's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2010 07:20
PEICanada7
The first one might not of set the world on fire, but don't forget No More Heroes didn't either and it got a sequel. Which I think everyone can agree was a good thing, so maybe they can also learn from they're mistakes of the first one to make a better sequel. If the Grinder is not coming out until Halloween 2011 than the Conduit 2 would probably come out after that, so now we're talking 2012, which is when the next Nintendo system is rumored to be coming out.

So who knows maybe they're planning on putting it out on a Wii HD. I can't see them jumping ship to the 360/PS3 with it, because they flat out said that the FPS genre is too overcrowded on those systems, so they would just get lost on those system with a FPS. That's why the Grinder went duel-stick shooter on those systems.
Discarded Couch Sandwich's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2010 07:35
Discarded Couch Sandwich
I actually enjoyed Red Steel more than I did The Conduit, the latter being one of the most disappointing games I've ever touched. I might write a blog on it since I've been going through Red Steel quite recently.

I think my biggest issue is the weapons of The Conduit. They look powerful, but it still takes a lot of hits with almost all of them to take down a regular enemy. That's the mechanics of a bad shoter right there by my book.
Toadofsky's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2010 08:01
Toadofsky
After playing the first game, i think I'll pass on this one...
JFF's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2010 08:14
JFF
Beggars can't be choosers.

The Conduit is the best selling product of all time from High Voltage. Before that was Hunter: The Reckoning. This is the reality of the company. The gamers hysteria make some people think they can do more than the big dogs all sudden.
Jaffacakelover's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2010 08:32
Jaffacakelover
Pre-release, it was being touted as excellent. On release, proclaimed as average. Now, it's called shit.
Poor Conduit, no sales for you.
Retrofraction's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2010 08:39
Retrofraction
I actually email them in concerning the Conduit 2 and they have yet to make a decision on whether to make it or not.

But if you care you should actually email them, they really read their mail and respond to your comments.

I sent them some questions and some suggestions and I have herd that they have actually forward them to the producer and they answered all of my questions.

so yeah if you want them to improve the next game they make email them.
LoftyTheMetroid's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2010 09:01
LoftyTheMetroid
Fun fact: Wii games are vastly cheaper to develop than HD titles, so it is much easier for a game to be profitable. Not every Wii game needs to be a blockbuster to turn a buck, unlike a 360 or PS3 title.

@pedrovay2003

Oh, but you HAVE to buy it, or else you're not TEH HARDCOREZ!!!

At least, that's what I'm told when I didn't buy The Conduit, or Darkside Chronicles, or what have you. And then when they sell poorly, it's because "the Wii doesn't support core titles".

(Seriously, though, I don't blame you. I'm not anticipating a purchase for either version, myself.)
bobyoko's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2010 10:06
bobyoko
sorry hvs, i'm not dumb enough to fall for your bs twice. won't buy conduit 2 under any circumstances. also wondering how hvs keep coming up on the blogs. my theory is that they are very generous with the sexual favors. seriously, us wii gamers would like it most if hvs would find their niche somewhere else. i hear psp owners could use some more shit games.
Badical's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2010 11:37
Badical
@ Jonathan Holmes: A game does not need to sell a million units (or half a million units, for that matter) to make a profit. I thought it was pretty damn obvious, but in order to be profitable, a product merely needs to make more than what was spent to make it. That's what profit means... Revenue > Expense

As many developers have admitted, developing for the Wii tends to be significantly cheaper than developing for the HD consoles, so it would not be entirely surprising if the game was, in fact, profitable.
Knowyourfactskids's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2010 11:53
Knowyourfactskids
@Xyliac Actually he said into a more serious game. They have done serious games in the past. Hunter the Reckoning series was a serious game was it not ? They have worked on '' serious '' games in the past. Yes they have had a little success like the series Hunter the Reckoning. That was a serious game. I created an account because I have the right to. You got a problem with that, you can take it up with the site admin. Either that or quit trollin.
ProperlyParanoid's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2010 15:21
ProperlyParanoid
I was let down by the first one. Not sure if I'll fall for it again.
mrfrostynova's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2010 20:25
mrfrostynova
HVS can suck it down after the shit they pulled with the Grinder - that said, if they were to release even a mediocre FPS with bots and multiplayer (local, what else?) I'd probably pick it up that's how bad the wii's been for multiplayer shooters.

@RenegadePanda - very funny, next you'll be saying you prefer a traditional controller for a FPS!
EdwinSPARTAN's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2010 21:52
EdwinSPARTAN
Personally I would love to see The Conduit 2 I really enjoyed the first one the single player was not that bad, despite what others may think, and the multi-player was plain fun(until there were weapon glitches, hackers, and spawn glitches, WHICH WERE NEVER FIXED!!!!!). Hopefully they really learn from their mistakes with the multi-player and have a more cinematic storyline, I didn't think the storyline was bad at all, but the lack of any cinematic moments kills it a bit. MAKE THE GRINDER FOR WII A FPS!!!!
pl0x kthanxbai's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2010 23:01
pl0x kthanxbai
the first game was absolute shit which got some decent attention due to the fact of being one of the few FPS on the wii, i say the wii hardcore crowd is more mature by now and wont get in the hype train knowing these guys past
Retrofraction's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/16/2010 23:21
Retrofraction
I want them to make a second one, and make it like HL2 but in an Alien world
chizza's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/06/2010 10:03
chizza
ok ok to me the game was great Even though i beat thestory in 4 hours

the online was great too but the glitches and hacks that came later on in the year
were kind of frustrating i still play the game till this day

and now that a sequels comin out im very excited

@bobyoko

they did the best they could i know im a wii fan but come on its wii not that much you can do and it was their firsttime makin a game for the system

but now that they noticed their problems they will fix it so stop dickeatin
and give props to them (i doubt you can make a game like that for a casual system like wii) no offense to Nintendo
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