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The Bionic Commando Wii Petition noticed by Capcom: Hell is tad chilly today photo

Online video game petitions are known for one thing; being ignored by game developers. This due to many factors, not the least of which is that these petitions are often written in English, but are directed at Japanese developers. That luckily isn't an issue for the currently open petition by GoNintendo editor RawMeatCowboy asking Capcom to bring it's long dormant Bionic Commando franchise to the Wii. 

Hit the jump to read what Ben Judd, the producer of the 360 and PS3 bound games Bionic Commando and Bionic Commando Rearmed (and the voice of the American Phoenix Wright) has to say about the petition, with some bonus sales data on Capcom Wii games thrown in just for the thrill of it.

Speaking of thrills, don't forget to check out the Bionic Commando Wii Petition contest. Entering is a good idea because it's fun and potentially profitable, while simultaniously a bad idea as it will support the creation of a potentially terrible thing, that being a horrid Bionic Commando port to the Wii. 

See what I did there? 

[Via GoNintendo]

 

In a recent podcast battle between the assistant producer of Metal Gear Solid 4 Ryan Payton and the already mentioned Mr Judd, Ben had this to say about the Wii petiton-

“Yes, we have taken notice. We’re very happy about that. Any time there’s an opportunity for new possible business - especially since we’re a company that likes our multi-platform strategy - that’s great. All I can say right now is that we’re certainly thinking about it. If there is going to be a Wii version that comes out, rest assured it’s not going to be something that’s announced tomorrow or in a week. I mean, even if we were to start planning it, let’s say, tomorrow, you wouldn’t see anything for a year, or whatever. So, if you do have your hopes pinned on that, I would say ‘Keep pinging us about that point,’ and expect something like that, if we decided to go down that path, in about a year or more. So please be patient.”

What does that sound like to you people? To me, it sounds like "Thank god anybody wants a new Bionic Commando game at all! If the Bionic Commando games we currently have planned fail, then sure, we'd be happy to take desperate Wii owner's money for some shabby ass ports."  Not exactly what we long time Bionic Commando fans were hoping to hear.

There is no reason for Capcom to be thinking like this. According to our buddies at NintendoWiiFanboy, Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles sold nearly 1,000,000 copies since it's world wide release late last year. That's not blockbuster money, but then again, Umbrella Chronicles was not a blockbuster game. Same goes for Zack and Wiki, which has reportedly sold a little over 300,000 copies world wide since it's release in '07. Capcom has stated they are more than happy with those numbers, presumably because the game was not all that expensive to produce.

Both games rely more on visceral game play mechanics than graphics, and are designed for the hardcore friendly gamer who isn't necessarily looking for every game they buy to be a life changing experience. That's exactly what I want the next Bionic Commando to be.

I don't want Bionic Commando to ever try to compete with Halo and Gears of War. Those games are huge blockbusters, and frankly, the Bionic Commando concept is just a little too goofy to attempt something on that kind of scope. Bionic Commando is a game about a guy with one robotic arm sent to rescue another guy named Super Joe from purple nazi's led by the muscular re-animated corpse of Hitler.  That's the kind of game that would work much better if treated with the same sense of scope, focus on fun, and permission for ridiculousness that we get from Wii games like No More Heroes and the above mentioned Capcom Wii exclusives.

What I'm saying is, I think that Ben Judd would make a better Bionic Commando game if he thought of the series as deserving the Wii treatment first and the PS3/360 treatment second. If the PS3/360 versions are over-budgeted financial bombs, and the subsequent Wii port(s) mere cash-milking after thoughts, then everybody loses. If instead the water is tested with a lower budget Wii version of Bionic Commando which gets new fans hooked on the series (pun intended), and then the more pricey but prettier PS3/360 versions come out, Wii owners may actually buy a 360 or PS3 just to follow their new favorite series onto more powerful hardware.

I know that if a No More Heroes game comes to the PS3 now, I'd be much more likely to plunk down $400 and commit to the big black box just because I've fallen in love with that game and want to continue my enjoyment of it, regardless of what console it's on. If on the other hand No More Heroes had come to the PS3 initially, then I might have ignored the series entirely. The first way I buy two No More Heroes related games. The second way, I buy none. 

The Wii continues to lead the current-gen console war with it's continued capture of the largest world wide install base. A game developer looking to re-start a franchise wants to start with that  install base then try and work the rest of the crowd, not start with the smaller crowd and hope it some how gets bigger. That's just Business and Finance 101.

Or maybe I'm totally off base here. What do you guys think? 

 

 


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Wedge's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/06/2008 19:42
Wedge
I'm not exactly sure how this is a Good Idea:Bad Idea...

I do agree that a Bionic Command made FOR the Wii would be great, but that's not what the petition is (obviously) being viewed as meaning, which is why I don't support it.

Your point about the Wii install base combined with the lower cost of development is something totally valid though. Which I thought was supposed to be the whole point of the system. Starting up new things without a ton of risk involved? But I guess that's just the unrealized ideal of what it should be...
Jonathan Holmes's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/06/2008 19:45
Jonathan Holmes
FINE! I'll change it then.

Don't say I never loved you, Wedge.
Jonathan Holmes's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/06/2008 19:48
Jonathan Holmes
And the petition, if you read it, isn't specifically for a port of the 360/PS3 versions of BC to the Wii. It's just for a new Bionic Commando game for the Wii to be made in some capacity.

We all just rightfully assume that all we'll get is a port, and hopefully not a sucky one at that.
Sharpless's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/06/2008 20:01
Sharpless
I think you're being cynical, bitch. <3
zardoz's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/06/2008 20:05
zardoz
Please... please can some talented developers just create some original games for the Wii, something which makes the most out of it's unique interface, something that relies on clever game mechanics and original art direction.

Can some new developer please show these heavy weights how it's done, they are so spent of ideas and so keep porting their lazy ass crap to the Wii, please can someone make something so that they can't get away with it anymore.
SourGr8pes's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/06/2008 20:12
SourGr8pes
This is a load of crap; THIS gets through, but yet, the countless pleas for Mother 3 and Earthbound for the VC still go ignored?
Jonathan Holmes's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/06/2008 20:19
Jonathan Holmes
Zardoz- 3rd parties will make Wii games of that caliber when you..

1) Buy Zack and Wiki

2) Do that drawing of Cammy you promised me.

SourGr8pes- Remember, Mother/Earthbound is made by Japanese folks. Western petitions in English mean nothing to them.
Cheeburga's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/06/2008 20:19
Cheeburga
niceee
Mxyzptlk's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/06/2008 20:20
Mxyzptlk
I'd love a "side story" Bionic Commando game on the Wii completely unrelated to the sequel. Maybe a retelling of the original story (the Japanese version, not the watered down US one)?
Pacman's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/06/2008 20:30
Pacman
A BC game in 3-d is going to suck no matter who does it, I honestly think. What I do want is the remake of the original; so far Capcom's batting average on 2.5-d remakes is pretty good so as long as it's not comparable to Maverick Hunter X I think we'll be fine.
Necros's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/06/2008 20:34
Necros
Wedge has a really good point. I signed up for the Wii to see original games created specifically with the system in mind. If developers are just going to decrease the graphical power of a game and tack on some motion controls, that's not using it to its full potential, no matter how good the game is. Now, as Jonathan mentions, if it is a separate Bionic Commando game, designed from the ground up for Wii, then I could start getting excited.
liquidninja's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/06/2008 20:51
liquidninja
I like the way the new Bionic Commando game looks if it was a Wii game first I don't think it would look as cool or be as cool. (just my $0.02)

As far as the quality of Wii games are concerned I agree with zardoz but am also not getting a game called "Zak and Wiki"; with that Kids-Anime-Show look no matter how good it is.
Jonathan Holmes's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/06/2008 20:55
Jonathan Holmes
I am not reading a post by a guy named "liquidninja", with a NEWB avatar look, no matter how great his comments are.

How does that feel? Not so fun when the tables are turned, eh?
Mxyzptlk's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/06/2008 21:13
Mxyzptlk
@liquidninja: Your loss dude, seriously. It's a great game. Sad that some people are way too hung up on appearance rather than substance.
Boolean's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/06/2008 21:33
Boolean
Is there even any indication beyond a few boring videos this game is going to be any good? Is there even any hint that a bad PORT of that bland boring game is going to any good?
Imako's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/06/2008 21:33
Imako
I think Capcom should do whatever the hell it wants. Why do we need 3 BC games? We don't even know if the 360/ps3 is even going to be fun in 3D yet.
Lukich's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/06/2008 21:41
Lukich
Zack and Wiki was awesome, and your short-sightedness will keep you from that experience. Like Mxyz said, your loss.
Jonathan Holmes's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/06/2008 21:45
Jonathan Holmes
Well, guys, your logic smells.

While your at it, why not add "How do we know any future game ever could have any possibility of being any good?" or "Why be excited for anything? It's probably going to suck and make me feel frowny..."

:(

Bionic Commando was my favorite NES game, period. A guy who claims to feel the same way, Ben Judd, is trying to make a new game in the series. That's why I'm excited.
liquidninja's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/06/2008 22:25
liquidninja
@Jonathan Holmes
OK, Point taken.

I'll see about the game although it looks and sounds like another entry into shovel-ware zone. Thank god for monthly fee video-game rentals.
carrierj1's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/07/2008 01:27
carrierj1
How about a RE5: Wii Edition, petition. I would buy that before the 360 version just for Wii controls. Then I'd go back and buy the 360 version for the graphics.
Jonathan Holmes's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/07/2008 06:21
Jonathan Holmes
Nice avatar, Liquidninja.

And Carrierj1, I feel the same way. However, it's Capcom Japan making RE5, and like I said, petitions in English are almost always ignored by Japanese devs. Petitions work the emotional, self conscious sides of people in power. Our will influences their decisions, because they are human beings and can't help but care what people think about their projects.

That doesn't work with petitions with language barriers.

But if you start a RE5 Wii petition, I'll sign it.
mandlebaum123's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/07/2008 07:03
mandlebaum123
Zack and Wiki sales figures came out, and it sold 300,000 world wide. I bet that is better than they were expecting. I started playing it again last night after I heard the news.
Gameboi's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/07/2008 07:17
Gameboi
Capcom:"Build it, and they will come."
zombiekiller13's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/07/2008 07:46
zombiekiller13
Zack and Wiki is a great game. It's even fun to watch someone play it. It suffered from lack of advertising - the only thing I saw for it were a few ads in game magazines and a poster in Nintendo Power, which is hanging in my cubicle (the poster says the name is 'Project Treasure Island Z', so it's obviously from before the title was finalized).

As for Bionic Commando, if Capcom wanted to throw the revamped version heading for XBLA onto a Wii disc, I'd buy it. That would hold me over until they work on a new BC Wii game.
zardoz's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/07/2008 08:22
zardoz
Hey Jonathan, I forgot all about Cammy. Can't believe you remembered.

Here's the deal, I am really busy, busy making just enough money to pay the rent, but I will send you a drawing of Cammy sooner rather than later.

Frustratingly I know enough talented artists/designers to create something quite special, but organising them to all meet up and dedicate their unpaid time to start work on a game is near impossible.

I am definitely going to make a Wiiware game though.
Fading Star's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/07/2008 11:50
Fading Star
Awesome.
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/07/2008 12:08
Holyetheline
What a nice, hopeful thing to say.
brainderailment's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/07/2008 13:39
brainderailment
If it's not an exact port, it might do ok. Kind of like Vice City Stories for the psp, it is one of the better games on that system.
AgentMOO's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2008 06:22
AgentMOO
These guys are port-Land trailblazers
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