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Where's Stealth? We need him to jump in and give reasons why this article is so very wrong and the 3DS is the greatest selling thing evar.
Nintendo really turned things around with the 3DS by offering 2 good Mario games on the holidays. 3rd party library is still poor though.
With finally some exciting third party games to look forward to this year, 2012 will be a better year for the 3DS.
I can't wait for Resident Evil Revelations, Tekken 3D, and Kingdom Hearts Dream Drop Distance.
With finally some exciting third party games to look forward to this year, 2012 will be a better year for the 3DS.
I can't wait for Resident Evil Revelations, Tekken 3D, and Kingdom Hearts Dream Drop Distance.
The 3DS itself has very little games, but like most Nintendo products, I am willing to buy it for 2 first party titles. The Ambassador games were the cherry on top of my decision to buy it for Ocarina of Time and the promise of Mario 3D Land.
Yeah but things are different when they're not turning a profit on every unit sold like they did with the DS.
Regardless of sales, I trust Nintendo handhelds. DS and 3DS both were off to rocky starts... In my opinion, it took a good year or so for me to feel like I hadn't wasted my money on a DS, but after that it became my favorite handheld of all time. I think Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow is what flipped me around on the DS. After that, it was all downhill... I think I own more DS games than any other "console" I've owned, except for PC. I expect the same to happen on 3DS.
Although the 3DS still has a flaw that I think brings it down. A lot of the games that really push the graphics capabilities cause the framerate to stutter badly when playing in 3D mode. People have told me, "just turn off the 3D", but then you're basically defeating the main purpose of the 3DS. Might as well just get a Vita after that. But, like I said, I trust Nintendo with handhelds, so I expect a ton of great first and third party titles on the 3DS in the near future to make the purchase feel worthwhile.
Although the 3DS still has a flaw that I think brings it down. A lot of the games that really push the graphics capabilities cause the framerate to stutter badly when playing in 3D mode. People have told me, "just turn off the 3D", but then you're basically defeating the main purpose of the 3DS. Might as well just get a Vita after that. But, like I said, I trust Nintendo with handhelds, so I expect a ton of great first and third party titles on the 3DS in the near future to make the purchase feel worthwhile.
Alot of kids got 3DS at Christmas around my area at least. It seems like it was the thing parents got a lot of so I can easily see this being true.
@PixelKnot93 I too am looking forward alot to KH:3D but would it kill you not to buy the new Resi? Capcom really do not deserve the sale at the moment.
@PixelKnot93 I too am looking forward alot to KH:3D but would it kill you not to buy the new Resi? Capcom really do not deserve the sale at the moment.
@-PL-: The main reason of the 3DS isn't the 3D, but the promise of a better DS experience. That's how it is for me. The 3D is just icing, not the cake.
seems some d-toider's are really obsessed with stealth :)
mario and the price drop really did wonders for the 3ds.
mario and the price drop really did wonders for the 3ds.
Still nothing on 3DS really for this gamer. Never been very big on Nintendo franchises and probably wouldn't have bought it at launch, had RE Mercs not been launched so close to release.
With that said cant wait for RE revelations, MGS3D, and Fire Emblem.
If Nintendo would make another 2D style Metroid for 3DS I'd be one happy camper.
With that said cant wait for RE revelations, MGS3D, and Fire Emblem.
If Nintendo would make another 2D style Metroid for 3DS I'd be one happy camper.
The biggest factor in the slow sales start here was the $250 price tag.
Couple that price with several independent reports that the system costs Nintendo $100-$150 to make (tops), and that the Vita was right around the corner at the same price but for a ridiculously more powerful machine and you've got a recipe for bad sales.
The whole thing just seemed like Nintendo making these choices simply because they thought they could get away with it. 3D that everyone turns off after 10 minutes is totally worth it, guys!
Now, the system is reasonably priced (not a big step up from a DSi), has more games and a brighter future. Makes perfect sense that it's selling like hotcakes now.
I just hope the Vita takes a similar route (though it definitely won't get such a big price drop so soon) and has increased sales. That thing has too much damn potential and I would be so sad to see it fail.
Hopefully it can at least pull in some PSP-like numbers, because in the grand scheme of things, the PSP is the most successful, non-Nintendo, portable gaming machine ever.
Couple that price with several independent reports that the system costs Nintendo $100-$150 to make (tops), and that the Vita was right around the corner at the same price but for a ridiculously more powerful machine and you've got a recipe for bad sales.
The whole thing just seemed like Nintendo making these choices simply because they thought they could get away with it. 3D that everyone turns off after 10 minutes is totally worth it, guys!
Now, the system is reasonably priced (not a big step up from a DSi), has more games and a brighter future. Makes perfect sense that it's selling like hotcakes now.
I just hope the Vita takes a similar route (though it definitely won't get such a big price drop so soon) and has increased sales. That thing has too much damn potential and I would be so sad to see it fail.
Hopefully it can at least pull in some PSP-like numbers, because in the grand scheme of things, the PSP is the most successful, non-Nintendo, portable gaming machine ever.
@-PL-
Out of curiosity, what titles have given you framerate issues with the 3D on? I haven't had any problems. But then again, we're probably playing different games.
Out of curiosity, what titles have given you framerate issues with the 3D on? I haven't had any problems. But then again, we're probably playing different games.
Like said on GoNintendo, you can look at this, or just listen to this quote by Reggie: "Reggie Fils-Aime, Nintendo of America president confirmed that, "In sales through this past 8 months (3DS) has outsold the full 12 months of the original DS. During that 12 month's time, the original DS sold 2.37 million and we just surpassed that this past Saturday".
Still need some games though, don't see any (new) RPGs for it yet. That was the best part of the DS library, IMO.
@zerocommazero
The rpgs are coming(in Japan at least.)
Bravely default, fire emblem, beyond the labyrinth (which all release early this year, if I'm not mistaken) and paper mario...
And this list could just continue to grow if history repeats itself.
@joe
I don't think the 3ds is sold at a loss. My understanding is the loss they spoke of was that overall sales were less than expected, resulting in a price drop to meet those sales numbers meaning less money overall.
The rpgs are coming(in Japan at least.)
Bravely default, fire emblem, beyond the labyrinth (which all release early this year, if I'm not mistaken) and paper mario...
And this list could just continue to grow if history repeats itself.
@joe
I don't think the 3ds is sold at a loss. My understanding is the loss they spoke of was that overall sales were less than expected, resulting in a price drop to meet those sales numbers meaning less money overall.
Still have Pushmo puzzles to beat, all coins to get in SM3DL, more Kart options to unlock, and OverClocked to get started with. PLus a bunch of other great stuff in 2012 to look forward to. I really like my 3DS.
@doomknight66:
I am honestly shocked that he hasn't commented yet. Maybe he's like Beetlejuice or the Candyman and you have to say his name a certain number of times before he pops up?
I am honestly shocked that he hasn't commented yet. Maybe he's like Beetlejuice or the Candyman and you have to say his name a certain number of times before he pops up?
@fford
That is what happened in that other thread.
Although, why would he complain? This article is true and positive.
That is what happened in that other thread.
Although, why would he complain? This article is true and positive.
@Lolztradamus
Dead or Alive, Sonic Generations, Street Fighter 4, I'm sure there are others.
You won't find many framerate issues in first party games because Nintendo optimizes their games to be run in 3D. That is also why first party games' graphics aren't as nice as third party games. (Look at Ocarina of Time compared to Dead or Alive, one looks like PS2, while the other looks like PS3.)
Dead or Alive, Sonic Generations, Street Fighter 4, I'm sure there are others.
You won't find many framerate issues in first party games because Nintendo optimizes their games to be run in 3D. That is also why first party games' graphics aren't as nice as third party games. (Look at Ocarina of Time compared to Dead or Alive, one looks like PS2, while the other looks like PS3.)
I haven't been a fan of nintendo for quite some time, but I love my 3DS. I was in the market for a new DS, so I figured what the hell, why not buy a 3DS? Then I bought OoT, Starfox, Mario 3Dland, and it was all downhill from there :D
Plus I finally get a new Monster Hunter. That's justification enough!
Plus I finally get a new Monster Hunter. That's justification enough!
@pl
Doa to my experience has occasionally hicups, but they don't crop up continuously. Otherwise, in 3d the framerate is consistent although slower than without tge 3d.
If you want framerate/lag issues, try harvest moon.(although sometimes it runs funny without 3d on...) cave story has occasional hiccups too, though not deal breaking.
Doa to my experience has occasionally hicups, but they don't crop up continuously. Otherwise, in 3d the framerate is consistent although slower than without tge 3d.
If you want framerate/lag issues, try harvest moon.(although sometimes it runs funny without 3d on...) cave story has occasional hiccups too, though not deal breaking.
It's cool to see some sales graphs to give us some perspective on the 3DS, but it would've been nice if you had re-posted the graph images in the article instead of saying, "according to these graphs that I'm text linking to."
I loved video games in 2011. I liked my 3DS quite a bit when I bought it at launch and It blossomed into full-blown adoration as the year wore on. I certainly had much more to do with it than my first year with my original DS.
@ LK404- Re-posting the graphs would mean that no one would hit the link to the website of the guy who made the graphs.
Just trying to help the little guy!
Just trying to help the little guy!
The idea that 3D on hurts the game visuals is bogus. I played Ocarina in 3D, and it looked amazing, and I had no problems with "framerate".
SM 3D Land is the best 3D looking game I've ever seen, where the 3D improves gameplay. No idea what morons keep bitching about things that don't exist. Gamers have became giant babies in this modern age. It's so annoying.
I said all along that the 3DS would be fine. Destructoid lemmings love to bash things when they're down and they have ZERO patience. Just like their troll leader, Jim.
SM 3D Land is the best 3D looking game I've ever seen, where the 3D improves gameplay. No idea what morons keep bitching about things that don't exist. Gamers have became giant babies in this modern age. It's so annoying.
I said all along that the 3DS would be fine. Destructoid lemmings love to bash things when they're down and they have ZERO patience. Just like their troll leader, Jim.
Let's see here....
The reason the DS had a slow launch was because it was being taunted as being a portable N64 with games similar to it (such as a Mario 64 port that nobody bought). Since the N64 was a decline in sales from the SNES, the result was that the DS got outsold by the PSP.
When the DS got rebranded as a portable SNES with NES/SNES-like games (FF3, NSMB, Mario Kart, etc), the system's sales exploded.
People better realize that the 3DS is coming off the success of the DS, one of the most successful portable handhelds ever, but the fact is that the system's hardware and software philosophy is going back to the N64 and Game Cube, Nintendo's least successful consoles. The 3DS is selling so "fast" but it isn't becoming a phenomenon as the DS did. Nobody is talking about how the 3DS is making gaming more exciting because the 3DS isn't making gaming more exciting, as that's not the reason it was built.
These sales are mostly to the N64/Game Cube audience. It's also to kids with the massive price drops. But you don't see Nintendo market to everyone; not adults, to the elderly, or to couples. The 3DS's strongest game maybe Mario Kart 7. And that's only because it's developer seems to be the only person in Nintendo of Japan that doesn't have his head up his own ass.
Nintendo is trying to emulate Sony and Microsoft because its developers had to make games they didn't want to make on the Wii and DS (games that actually sold but took work and effort and were not fun to make for developers). The 3DS is an excuse for Nintendo's developers to make games they have fun making but are not fun to play and do not excite the mass market to embrace gaming in the mainstream as the Wii and DS did.
I'm sorry, Nintendo can spin all it wants, but it is very hard to ignore the fact that the 3DS COST NINTENDO OVER ONE BILLION DOLLARS IN FUCKING LOSSES!
The reason the DS had a slow launch was because it was being taunted as being a portable N64 with games similar to it (such as a Mario 64 port that nobody bought). Since the N64 was a decline in sales from the SNES, the result was that the DS got outsold by the PSP.
When the DS got rebranded as a portable SNES with NES/SNES-like games (FF3, NSMB, Mario Kart, etc), the system's sales exploded.
People better realize that the 3DS is coming off the success of the DS, one of the most successful portable handhelds ever, but the fact is that the system's hardware and software philosophy is going back to the N64 and Game Cube, Nintendo's least successful consoles. The 3DS is selling so "fast" but it isn't becoming a phenomenon as the DS did. Nobody is talking about how the 3DS is making gaming more exciting because the 3DS isn't making gaming more exciting, as that's not the reason it was built.
These sales are mostly to the N64/Game Cube audience. It's also to kids with the massive price drops. But you don't see Nintendo market to everyone; not adults, to the elderly, or to couples. The 3DS's strongest game maybe Mario Kart 7. And that's only because it's developer seems to be the only person in Nintendo of Japan that doesn't have his head up his own ass.
Nintendo is trying to emulate Sony and Microsoft because its developers had to make games they didn't want to make on the Wii and DS (games that actually sold but took work and effort and were not fun to make for developers). The 3DS is an excuse for Nintendo's developers to make games they have fun making but are not fun to play and do not excite the mass market to embrace gaming in the mainstream as the Wii and DS did.
I'm sorry, Nintendo can spin all it wants, but it is very hard to ignore the fact that the 3DS COST NINTENDO OVER ONE BILLION DOLLARS IN FUCKING LOSSES!
I wonder how long it'll take Sony to learn that $250 is just too much for a dedicated gaming handheld? Nintendo learned it the hard way, but they course-corrected early...
The "release of popular franchises" were always part of the strategy, it wasn't something new Nintendo did to sell systems and save face when their sales dropped and things looked bleak. In the case of Mario Kart however, it might have been rushed out the gate for a Mario one two punch during the holidays. Their troubles aren't necessarily behind them however, especially if Kid Icarus fails to catch on.
This is good. Not just for the 3DS.
I mean, the fact that the 3DS can do this well, breaking sales records in Japan, is very reassuring for the handheld lover, whether it's 3DS or Vita. Remember when iDevices had apparently taken over and dedicated handhelds were useless? Well apparently not. That makes me very happy, as an iFuture is not one I'm into.
I mean, the fact that the 3DS can do this well, breaking sales records in Japan, is very reassuring for the handheld lover, whether it's 3DS or Vita. Remember when iDevices had apparently taken over and dedicated handhelds were useless? Well apparently not. That makes me very happy, as an iFuture is not one I'm into.
While I'm happy for Nintendo's success, I was secretly hoping that the 3DS would fail so that Nintendo could learn that slow and steady doesn't win the race.
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@Stealth, it's 'bait', just sayin'
@Jonathan Holmes, really cool to think of the little guy like that! you're awesome!
@Jonathan Holmes, really cool to think of the little guy like that! you're awesome!
"oomed by Nubageddon"
Hey it hasn't even happened yet, give it a few weeks ;)
But yeah, I'm kinda glad to see the way things have turned out, even if I was one of the people totally pissed by the launch and everything after. Up until August everything seemed dismal then -poof- turned right around pretty quickly.
This year the third parties will keep things going, at least in febuary.. MGS and RE on the same system in one month.. So much money will be spent.
Hey it hasn't even happened yet, give it a few weeks ;)
But yeah, I'm kinda glad to see the way things have turned out, even if I was one of the people totally pissed by the launch and everything after. Up until August everything seemed dismal then -poof- turned right around pretty quickly.
This year the third parties will keep things going, at least in febuary.. MGS and RE on the same system in one month.. So much money will be spent.
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