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Lol soft lock. Hey, this tubs at the same frame rate as Bayonetta on PS3. How did you describe that on Podtoid? Absolute Shit? At least Bayonetta on PS3 wasn't also designed to be a simplified action game.
so I clearly remember showing my cousin gameplay for DMC, it went a little like this
Cousin (on DMC) - I dont like it.
Me - It's just like Devil May Cry though isn't it? You love Devil May Cry
cousin - yea
Me - so whats wrong? looks like the same game to me.
cousin - i don't like it.
Cousin (on DMC) - I dont like it.
Me - It's just like Devil May Cry though isn't it? You love Devil May Cry
cousin - yea
Me - so whats wrong? looks like the same game to me.
cousin - i don't like it.
I really want this game to be awesome so everyone just has to eat crow. This has been the 1st DMC that has ever interested me. I'll check it out.
I liked the trailer, the levels in this game look like they are gonna be crazy to play when this eventually drops. This is one of many 2013 releases I'm looking forward to.
These fans with their panties still in a wad over this never cease to amuse me. No ones taking away the old games away from you, they are all available in some form thanks to the HD collections. Rebooting a franchise to try and do something different with it is nothing new, so why this rage at the Devil May Cry reboot?
These fans with their panties still in a wad over this never cease to amuse me. No ones taking away the old games away from you, they are all available in some form thanks to the HD collections. Rebooting a franchise to try and do something different with it is nothing new, so why this rage at the Devil May Cry reboot?
Played it at PAX and I liked it. It was a lot of fun. I love Ninja Theory's games. I even liked the new Dante too.
Hayabusa:
"Because Bayonetta 2 is on WiiU, I'm looking forward to one of the worst reboots of a great franchise in recent history"
"Because Bayonetta 2 is on WiiU, I'm looking forward to one of the worst reboots of a great franchise in recent history"
I can't wait to see if it proves the haters wrong, but I very much doubt it will at this point. Ninja Theory are cool guys but they haven't produced a truly compelling hack'n'slash to date, and they can't save a supposedly Devil May Cry game with the bells and whistles that saved Heavenly Sword and Enslaved.
@Jam.- Capcom rebooted the gameplay of Resident Evil, and look where that series went. If you're going to change the spirit and identity of the gameplay for the sake of gathering new fans in spite of the existing ones, then make it a new IP.
The combat still looks much slower, more floaty and greatly simplified. Dante appears to have lost all his cheesy charm which has been replaced with his "gritty" new personality. Virgil looks horrible. That being said, this is the best trailer for this game yet.
I have a feeling that this may end up being a pretty decent game that is a very bad Devil May Cry. It just looks to have abandoned everything that the hardcore fans loved about the original DMC. We will have to see...
I have a feeling that this may end up being a pretty decent game that is a very bad Devil May Cry. It just looks to have abandoned everything that the hardcore fans loved about the original DMC. We will have to see...
You know, I just think Ninja Theory just recieves hate for no reason for any game they make.
All games they've made have reviewed well, just never sold well.
All games they've made have reviewed well, just never sold well.
So far, it looks decent. Not bad, not great, just adequate. I don't know. I've never really been that big of a fan of Ninja Theory's combat in their games. Their story-telling is great but the combat lacks.
Knowing this game runs on the Unreal Engine 3 in 30fps as well doesn't inspire confidence either. Maybe if I play a demo I'll change my mind.
Knowing this game runs on the Unreal Engine 3 in 30fps as well doesn't inspire confidence either. Maybe if I play a demo I'll change my mind.
At this point trailers are pretty much useless, only solid gameplay will change the minds of fans of the old DMC. Also, it would help a bit if they released the song of this trailer, remember it worked well for Deux Ex Human Revolution and that trailer is both the most popular so far and if you check the comments there's a lot of em asking for the song, hell it would even work as viral marketing.
spman2099:
"I have a feeling that this may end up being a pretty decent game that is a very bad Devil May Cry."
pretty much hits the nail on the head
"I have a feeling that this may end up being a pretty decent game that is a very bad Devil May Cry."
pretty much hits the nail on the head
cry babies, this game looks awesome. DMC or not.
and how can people say the game play looks simplified when its cutting between scenes so much, you have less than a second each time to see what they are doing. im sure theres far more to the game.
at least this dante doesnt jump like turd covered pogo stick.
and how can people say the game play looks simplified when its cutting between scenes so much, you have less than a second each time to see what they are doing. im sure theres far more to the game.
at least this dante doesnt jump like turd covered pogo stick.
I don't get the hate either. Even if the combat engine isn't up to par with DMC3 atleast we are assured of good environments, some crazy scenarios and it looks to be an enjoyable game. That's all I can really ask for anymore. I can't ask for anymore. Considering how far Capcom has sunk this generation with Dragons Dogma being their only good console game in almost 6 years I don't know what fans are expecting. Capcom honestly could not do any better than Ninja Theory judging by DMC4 ( such a wasted game with a great new protagonist Nero )
spman2099:
"I have a feeling that this may end up being a pretty decent game that is a very bad Devil May Cry."
Just like RE5 was a good action game but a TERRIBLE Resident Evil game. I'm starting to see a trend on Capcom...
OH SHIT! I JUST REMEMBERD! This is Capcom we're talking about!!!
Who's pumped for on-disc DLC? on day one? also costume packs and extra weapons?
"I have a feeling that this may end up being a pretty decent game that is a very bad Devil May Cry."
Just like RE5 was a good action game but a TERRIBLE Resident Evil game. I'm starting to see a trend on Capcom...
OH SHIT! I JUST REMEMBERD! This is Capcom we're talking about!!!
Who's pumped for on-disc DLC? on day one? also costume packs and extra weapons?
Gameplay looks boss. Dante still looks like a tool. It's a very unusual mix, but still interesting. I own every current generation Ninja Theory game, and this will likely be the same.
Pick it up when it's discounted.
Pick it up when it's discounted.
The issue is not the game itself, its the depiction of the character. Like Conan the Barbarian now a skinny thief with a toothpick. For the millionth time, you can't fault (most) of the fans for this something like that. Not the same thing as the Silent Hill fiasco.
Dante does look like a twit nowadays. :P
Dante does look like a twit nowadays. :P
I was never interested in the DMC games but after watching this trailer I want to play it. Looks batshit insane in a good way!
Really excited to play this game. Liking how Dante has to traverse these torn apart worlds and the combat looks like it'll be a hoot. Could do without that awful boring screaming music. Can't wait for this to come out.
@Arttemis I haven't seen anything but positive change in Resident evil thanks to the change in game play, but that may just be my inexperience with the older games talking. Sure they changed the games from horror to more action horror but I wouldn't call that a negative when the RE games were never that scary(though opinion varies I'm sure)
Even with that said not much seems to have changed in Devil May Cry aside from character redesign and a new story. Gameplay's about the same combat wise and platforming just got a more prominent role. Complaining about a game shifting genres may have its merits but the uproar around DmC is just silly.
Even with that said not much seems to have changed in Devil May Cry aside from character redesign and a new story. Gameplay's about the same combat wise and platforming just got a more prominent role. Complaining about a game shifting genres may have its merits but the uproar around DmC is just silly.
I might be wrong but i think what people dont "Like" about this game is the reboot part, the new dante and stuffs is so off the model of dante and DMC that we all know that its akward. at least that's what happends to me...when i see dante and cutscenes i get a weird feeling of "ewww..." but when gameplay actually shows off and you see how to kick monsters asses, that looks DAMN good. im really specting this game but i still dont know if the story line and the new dante worth the title if DMC, i guess time will tell anyway.
Here's 25 minutes of nonsense:
http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Nearly-25-Minutes-Devil-May-Cry-Lets-You-Decide-It-Sucks-Or-46509.html
http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Nearly-25-Minutes-Devil-May-Cry-Lets-You-Decide-It-Sucks-Or-46509.html
You all talking about Resident Evil and Devil May Cry as prime examples of what Capcom is getting wrong... let me offer you something.
I think Resident Evil is a punchline. I think Devil May Cry falls into the same category... two franchises that started goofy and went full retard 2 games ago. You can't one-up the cheese factor with these games anymore, and the fanbase has started slipping away as a result.
You want old Dante, then awesome... there's 4 or 5 games where you get him, go nuts. Capcom's trying something different with the IP and involving a developer that's known for making really great characters and story. You don't have to like it as much as the old games, but you can't deny that both franchises are remarkably stale and dated and needed a change.
I think Resident Evil is a punchline. I think Devil May Cry falls into the same category... two franchises that started goofy and went full retard 2 games ago. You can't one-up the cheese factor with these games anymore, and the fanbase has started slipping away as a result.
You want old Dante, then awesome... there's 4 or 5 games where you get him, go nuts. Capcom's trying something different with the IP and involving a developer that's known for making really great characters and story. You don't have to like it as much as the old games, but you can't deny that both franchises are remarkably stale and dated and needed a change.
Looks OK, still won't buy it. The art style of the chaos world is cool, but the character design is pretty blegh. Also the combat looks great, but not feeling the whole hookshot stuff.
@Jamvaan A bad installment or spin-off can ruin franchises for some people. Sure Dragon Age: Origins still exists untainted, but its associated with the abomination known as Dragon Age 2, which changes my perception of the franchise in a negative way. Some people are just bitter.
Also hate the smug bastards commenting about how cool they are about liking the game over those stupid haters.
@Jamvaan A bad installment or spin-off can ruin franchises for some people. Sure Dragon Age: Origins still exists untainted, but its associated with the abomination known as Dragon Age 2, which changes my perception of the franchise in a negative way. Some people are just bitter.
Also hate the smug bastards commenting about how cool they are about liking the game over those stupid haters.
I'm staying open minded, although this trailer shows two things i dislike - slow paced milked story and gameplay that althoughn looks frantic doesn't feel that intence.
Its not just the characters design that people are but the way he acts
Not just that h acts unlike Dante, but as a character hes insufferably annoying
Not just that h acts unlike Dante, but as a character hes insufferably annoying
@Artemis
Capcom hasn't been the greatest company at all, but at least they didn't force multiplayer into this yet, and why do you have such a problem with people being pumped for the game.
The changes aren't even that substantial to compare it to the original RE to the trash produced now. Plus different devs are working on both of those games. I just see you trying to get people on your side with being upset about a game because, let's be honest here, you don't like the character's new portrayal. Which is silly because based on the trailers the core/awesome gameplay I love is still, plus it can't be as bad as DMC2 or 4
Capcom hasn't been the greatest company at all, but at least they didn't force multiplayer into this yet, and why do you have such a problem with people being pumped for the game.
The changes aren't even that substantial to compare it to the original RE to the trash produced now. Plus different devs are working on both of those games. I just see you trying to get people on your side with being upset about a game because, let's be honest here, you don't like the character's new portrayal. Which is silly because based on the trailers the core/awesome gameplay I love is still, plus it can't be as bad as DMC2 or 4
Gameplay looks fun, like a DMC game, yet the story and writing looks not like shit, unlike DMC.
I dare say Ninja Theory could have a winner on their hands. The reason people are shitting on the game is because of the Halo Effect (not the game). People are unhappy Dante was changed from a cliché'd anime stereotype to a cliché'd western social stereotype, and now they think everything else about the game sucks, simply by association. The "fans" can explain away their hate all they want, but anyone with half a brain can see the sole reason for the hate is because of Dante's redesign. Which means Ninja Theory will once again make a great game that sells very poorly.
Fuck, I hate the way the world works sometimes.
I dare say Ninja Theory could have a winner on their hands. The reason people are shitting on the game is because of the Halo Effect (not the game). People are unhappy Dante was changed from a cliché'd anime stereotype to a cliché'd western social stereotype, and now they think everything else about the game sucks, simply by association. The "fans" can explain away their hate all they want, but anyone with half a brain can see the sole reason for the hate is because of Dante's redesign. Which means Ninja Theory will once again make a great game that sells very poorly.
Fuck, I hate the way the world works sometimes.
Can somebody PLEASE, explain to me what is exactly so bad about the new DmC reboot? I have been waiting far too long for someone to give me a proper, reasonable explanation as to why Ninja Theory's take on the franchise is so terrible. None of the arguments against it MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME. I feel like such an outsider in all this, as apparently, me thinking this looks like a good game is just crazy! WHAT IS GOING ON?!?
"I have a feeling that this may end up being a pretty decent game that is a very bad Devil May Cry"
My thoughts exactly. I think it looks decent but it kinda bothers me that they had to slap on an existing franchise's name on it when it doesn't have much to do with it. Bayonetta is a prime example of a game that follows DMC's spirit while being its own thing, I rather prefer this game be like that.
My thoughts exactly. I think it looks decent but it kinda bothers me that they had to slap on an existing franchise's name on it when it doesn't have much to do with it. Bayonetta is a prime example of a game that follows DMC's spirit while being its own thing, I rather prefer this game be like that.
I'm actually excited for this game Mr. Sterling. Been saying this for a while now.
I'm quite okay with the choices, and hope the game doesn't tank. I for one will be getting it.
I'm quite okay with the choices, and hope the game doesn't tank. I for one will be getting it.
@Gamenerd - DMC4 featured a Dante that could switch between five styles at any moment, in between combos, as fast as you can input the command. The level of mastery you could obtain was nearly unlimited.
This game drops the frame rate in half, shortens the combos, removes all style based gameplay, and removes the aerial jump cancel ballet with 4 hit monotony. This is more akin to the simplistic God of War hack and slash (which was Ninja Theory's inspiration with Heavenly Sword) than the insane technicality that leads to the hundreds of combo videos that are a gorgeous example of God tier mastery.
The main character could be an amalgamation of My Chemical Romance and any other punk-ish rock group. I would want the technicality to remain for this to be called DmC. To lose that is to lose its identity. Looping people in by slapping an existing IP is a bait and switch and unnecessary.
This game drops the frame rate in half, shortens the combos, removes all style based gameplay, and removes the aerial jump cancel ballet with 4 hit monotony. This is more akin to the simplistic God of War hack and slash (which was Ninja Theory's inspiration with Heavenly Sword) than the insane technicality that leads to the hundreds of combo videos that are a gorgeous example of God tier mastery.
The main character could be an amalgamation of My Chemical Romance and any other punk-ish rock group. I would want the technicality to remain for this to be called DmC. To lose that is to lose its identity. Looping people in by slapping an existing IP is a bait and switch and unnecessary.
If they want to offer me meaningful dlc, give me the option to buy a reskinned Dante. I'd pay ten bucks.
@AdamskiOwenov
Well people have criticized the following:
1. Character design (Dante doesn't look like Dante, the other characters look bland and uninspired. I think Dante doesn't look god, but looks way better than the first reveal.)
2. Combat (Too slow because of 30fps, looks more like God of war, what with the length changing weapon. Looks kid of easy based on a video of a guy steamrolling a boss with barely any strategy)
3. Platforming (Unnecessary, also copied from God of War with the hookshot things, too reliant on QTE, press x to not die)
4. Story and reboot (Was supposed to be a reboot, but changed to an AU due to backlash, showing that Capcom is not sure of what they wanted. Also Dante being half-angel half-devil)
5. Humor (Too much of the F-bomb and Dante acting like a insufferable jackass)
Well people have criticized the following:
1. Character design (Dante doesn't look like Dante, the other characters look bland and uninspired. I think Dante doesn't look god, but looks way better than the first reveal.)
2. Combat (Too slow because of 30fps, looks more like God of war, what with the length changing weapon. Looks kid of easy based on a video of a guy steamrolling a boss with barely any strategy)
3. Platforming (Unnecessary, also copied from God of War with the hookshot things, too reliant on QTE, press x to not die)
4. Story and reboot (Was supposed to be a reboot, but changed to an AU due to backlash, showing that Capcom is not sure of what they wanted. Also Dante being half-angel half-devil)
5. Humor (Too much of the F-bomb and Dante acting like a insufferable jackass)
I actually stood up and played this myself as PAX and let me start off by saying I was not the avid hater that most people turned out to be because of the new style and team. I actually had some interested in the game, but after playing it at PAX, all that interest was thrown in a dumpster. The controls for the game were just fucking horrible and unless they bother to release a more classic DMC control style I won't bother picking this up until it hits the 20 dollar mark.
It continues to amaze me that people hate this, but are willing to forgive the emo shitpile that was Devil May Cry 2.
That was so bad I'm still convinced that Dante's appearance in Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne was more of a sequel than DMC2 was.
DmC? Jury's out on that one.
That was so bad I'm still convinced that Dante's appearance in Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne was more of a sequel than DMC2 was.
DmC? Jury's out on that one.
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