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Oh yes it looks incredible. But... i hope it will be used for a game that i have a chance of enjoying.
Imagine this used for a game like Skyrim, where you can stop and smell the flowers, or light a toad on fire and steal its soul.
Imagine this used for a game like Skyrim, where you can stop and smell the flowers, or light a toad on fire and steal its soul.
Tessellated Toad looks totally terrific.
Incidentally, Crysis 3 is looking fantastic too. I loved Crysis 2 (which is seemingly out-of-fashion at the moment) so more and prettier sounds just peachy to me.
Incidentally, Crysis 3 is looking fantastic too. I loved Crysis 2 (which is seemingly out-of-fashion at the moment) so more and prettier sounds just peachy to me.
Battletoads Reboot on CryEngine3.
Eww.
Anyway, the /real/ Crytek news is that they're planning Timesplitters news in the near future.
Timesplitters monkeys in CryEngine 3. Realistic fur effects & everything.
Eww.
Anyway, the /real/ Crytek news is that they're planning Timesplitters news in the near future.
Timesplitters monkeys in CryEngine 3. Realistic fur effects & everything.
@The Amazing Shenzin
I think tessellation is the one that gives 3D models the appearance of having much higher polycounts than they actually do; for example, to smooth a blocky shape into a more natural-looking curved shape.
I think tessellation is the one that gives 3D models the appearance of having much higher polycounts than they actually do; for example, to smooth a blocky shape into a more natural-looking curved shape.
@Epic - Bullshit. I want to believe you with every ounce of my being, but I just can't. I remember seeing 'news' for TS4 years and years ago, I can't be burned again.
What's your source?
On topic, those graphics are pretty amazing, here's hoping that the tech advances make the current crop cheaper and then we can have modern games made by smaller teams and have them be a bit ballsier. Still looking to love up Crysis 3 big time. 2 was great, fuck the haters.
What's your source?
On topic, those graphics are pretty amazing, here's hoping that the tech advances make the current crop cheaper and then we can have modern games made by smaller teams and have them be a bit ballsier. Still looking to love up Crysis 3 big time. 2 was great, fuck the haters.
Man that does look pretty, I didn't know this generation of gaming was capable of producing graphics in that high of quality.....oh wait that was a pc demo wasn't it?
Hopefully this will get all the PC graphics whores to STFU about "Crysis has been consolized. Blah blah blah..." That said, Crysis 3 looks like it will bring my rig to its knees. And if Crysis 2 was any indication, I can look forward to Crysis 3 being one of my favorite games of next year.
Crysis 2 was terrible. The writing and dialogue were so bad and sexist I quit in disgust. And it was bland and linear compared to the first game. Graphics were all it had going for it, and even with the HD texture pack the first game looked better.
This is a great tech demo, and I love the environments, but it will take a lot to sell me on the game itself after the last one was so generic.
@amtalx:
It was less that the graphics had been consolized and more that the *gameplay* had been. The game was more linear and offered less options for dealing with situations than the original did. The general line of reasoning was that consoles couldn't maintain that level of detail over huge, open-to-explore environments - hence the more linear gameplay. I loved Crysis 1 for the most part, but 2 felt like just another boring shooter.
This is a great tech demo, and I love the environments, but it will take a lot to sell me on the game itself after the last one was so generic.
@amtalx:
It was less that the graphics had been consolized and more that the *gameplay* had been. The game was more linear and offered less options for dealing with situations than the original did. The general line of reasoning was that consoles couldn't maintain that level of detail over huge, open-to-explore environments - hence the more linear gameplay. I loved Crysis 1 for the most part, but 2 felt like just another boring shooter.
Anybody wish you could basically delete dumb fuck comments from your feed like you can on Youtube? Why is it that it's always talks of Crysis that brings out the overly opinionated and pompous around here?
I bet they still can't get long hair to flow well. That's still the one thing that hasn't improved since about 1998.
@tinman
Whoa there cowboy, you mean people have differing opinions on a controversial game and you don't agree with some of them?
You don't say.
Whoa there cowboy, you mean people have differing opinions on a controversial game and you don't agree with some of them?
You don't say.
@The Amazing Shenzin & Paul Stone
As far as I know it doesn't just give those objects the appearance to be smoother. The models themselves have a relatively normal/low poly count, but the gpu adds polys according to the information on some map (don't exactly know what it's called). So instead of creating an illusion that a surface has real depth and structure (bump mapping) that can be broken by looking at the surface at unfortunate angles the surface really does has depth.
If I remember correctly tesselation is nothing new but I guess GPU power/better API by DX11 made it feasible.
As far as I know it doesn't just give those objects the appearance to be smoother. The models themselves have a relatively normal/low poly count, but the gpu adds polys according to the information on some map (don't exactly know what it's called). So instead of creating an illusion that a surface has real depth and structure (bump mapping) that can be broken by looking at the surface at unfortunate angles the surface really does has depth.
If I remember correctly tesselation is nothing new but I guess GPU power/better API by DX11 made it feasible.
Not to be a downer but didn't anyone else notice the blocky geometry on things like the railing or the stop light or leaves? Or the fern blatantly clipping through the ground during the 'pixel accurate displacement mapping' part? I'd rather see games with better geometry/higher poly count with current effects instead of better and fancier effects applied to the same blocky objects we currently have.
But mostly I'd rather just see a game with a really nice stylized aesthetic.
But mostly I'd rather just see a game with a really nice stylized aesthetic.
Hopefully this will be the generation in which other developers will start using the CryEngine. Crytek's technology has always been amazing, just usually poorly times. This says it supports both current gen and next gen. It will be really interesting if developers can develop games for both console generations simultaneously, the current gen games only using a fraction of the features while next gen games have everything cranked up. I could see that being incredibly appealing to developers.
It just looks like real life frog. What's so impressive about a real life frog? Call me back when they do something visually interesting with these fancy computers.
@Tekbunny - There are differing opinions, and then there's this shit: "Crysis 2 was terrible. The writing and dialogue were so bad and sexist I quit in disgust."
That's not an intelligent opinion that I disagree on. People are entitled to educated opinions, and that is some I consider sacred. What people are not entitled to is throwing horseshit at my eyes.
@Epik - Thanks for the link brother, unfortunately this line of 'might, maybe, interest, derp' was something I was reading back in 2004. Anyone else remember Gears of Monkeys?
That's not an intelligent opinion that I disagree on. People are entitled to educated opinions, and that is some I consider sacred. What people are not entitled to is throwing horseshit at my eyes.
@Epik - Thanks for the link brother, unfortunately this line of 'might, maybe, interest, derp' was something I was reading back in 2004. Anyone else remember Gears of Monkeys?
Of course EA has to slap it's logo in there somewhere.
Anyway, the engine looks amazing. How come we don't see more games using it? EA seem to be pushing it real hard (although not as much as Frostbite) but who else really uses it?
Anyway, the engine looks amazing. How come we don't see more games using it? EA seem to be pushing it real hard (although not as much as Frostbite) but who else really uses it?
I agree with Holmes, in a way. Don't get me wrong, I think the technology is really impressive, and the video does show off what they can do really well, but I wouldn't really be impressed by a game just because it looked like that. I mean, The Wind Waker still looks better than this.
I wouldn't mind if Crytek stopped making games and only did tech demos for benchmarking. This is all technically impressive, and while I enjoyed both Croissant games, I never took the time to stop and admire all the polygonamajigs and volumetric whistles and other pizzle pads.
So I guess what I'm saying is a moderately respectful "cool engine, bro".
So I guess what I'm saying is a moderately respectful "cool engine, bro".
Yeah but this isn't photo-realism this is hyper-realism. The technology at hand is creating an illusion of a reality which either does not exist or cannot be seen by the human eye -- like fine details, etc...
Basically, it's still very stylized. It may not be your style, but it isn't realistic.... although the style is more realistic than say Wind Waker.
Basically, it's still very stylized. It may not be your style, but it isn't realistic.... although the style is more realistic than say Wind Waker.
This is what the game looks like on top-top-top tier professional-grade hardware.
What the game will look like on your shitty-in-comparison rig, or - god forbid - consoles? Ha! Haha! Hahaha! Hahahahahahaha yeah no the chances of YOU being able to run this? Good luck... you. Yes, you.
What the game will look like on your shitty-in-comparison rig, or - god forbid - consoles? Ha! Haha! Hahaha! Hahahahahahaha yeah no the chances of YOU being able to run this? Good luck... you. Yes, you.
@tinman
I guess I'm just use to the shit I get for liking an awesome game like bulletstorm. Let the haters hate and have fun with what you have fun with.
And this is coming from a hater.
@tommy
Mmm, croissants...
I guess I'm just use to the shit I get for liking an awesome game like bulletstorm. Let the haters hate and have fun with what you have fun with.
And this is coming from a hater.
@tommy
Mmm, croissants...
Sign me up for this being doable on the next run of consoles.
Crisis was decent.
Crisis 2 was poop.
Crisis 3 = ?
Crisis was decent.
Crisis 2 was poop.
Crisis 3 = ?
Hahaha, I just built a new PC, but it probably won't be able to run this at any good specs... but I still can't wait until maybe 5 years down the line to run it on a new build lol (when it's old by then).
As long as I can run the Top Secret Tessellated Toad Tech on Ultra High, I'll be satisfied.
As long as I can run the Top Secret Tessellated Toad Tech on Ultra High, I'll be satisfied.
The water stuff was really nice. I'd love to see a fantasy aquarium game where you can have these mythical or prehistoric creatures in a giant aquarium or ocean and you can add terrain and sunken ships or buildings and just watch everything interact.
Anyone who hasn't seen it in action go download Nexuiz on steam which is free this weekend, it looks insane, couldn't believe what I was seeing
@The Amazing Shenazin - In some sense yes, Tessellation basically increases the 'geometry' of an object by taking the height information of a normal map (the type of map that makes models & objects in games today look high poly - but really its just a flat texture). It Takes that height information and then 'extrudes' geometry from the normal map to increase the detail of the object in game.
It's basically emulating the high poly version of the model into the game engine through the means of graphical witchcraft. The beautiful thing about it is that it can be used in the same method LOD (Level of Detail) is used. The further you are away from the object, the less level of tessellation is needed on it, the closer you get.. the tessellation of the object increases, delivering a more convincing high geometry look.
Here is an example of how tessellation works:
As you can see the character on the left is more rounded and higher detailed in its geometry. It gives a more convincing life like appearance rather than a blocky visual (as seen on the left)
It's basically emulating the high poly version of the model into the game engine through the means of graphical witchcraft. The beautiful thing about it is that it can be used in the same method LOD (Level of Detail) is used. The further you are away from the object, the less level of tessellation is needed on it, the closer you get.. the tessellation of the object increases, delivering a more convincing high geometry look.
Here is an example of how tessellation works:
As you can see the character on the left is more rounded and higher detailed in its geometry. It gives a more convincing life like appearance rather than a blocky visual (as seen on the left)
@Jinx 01:
We'll have to agree to disagree. I thought that Crysis was pretty toy, but as a game it was miserable. It lacked direction and the encounter design was poorly paced and seemingly schizophrenic. The suit mechanics were awful. The new suit controls made it easier to combine abilities, which made me feel far more powerful than I did in Crysis or Warhead. To me, feeling powerful is kind of the point of having a badass suit. The unary selection of powers in Crysis ruined that.
We'll have to agree to disagree. I thought that Crysis was pretty toy, but as a game it was miserable. It lacked direction and the encounter design was poorly paced and seemingly schizophrenic. The suit mechanics were awful. The new suit controls made it easier to combine abilities, which made me feel far more powerful than I did in Crysis or Warhead. To me, feeling powerful is kind of the point of having a badass suit. The unary selection of powers in Crysis ruined that.
That's pretty, no doubt about it.
But frankly the original Crysis looked more realistic, it had actual SCALE as well as definition... like the REAL world.
Crysis 2 and seemingly the next one is so focused on putting as much definition and shaders as possible into smaller areas, it doesn't look like the real world at all.
I hope they put all this technology into a game that lives up to Crysis 1 as opposed to the infuriating Crysis 2 which wasn't just dumbed down. It was a dumb game period.
Can't even freaking run in that game without suit energy, what kind of FPS doesn't allow you to run...
But frankly the original Crysis looked more realistic, it had actual SCALE as well as definition... like the REAL world.
Crysis 2 and seemingly the next one is so focused on putting as much definition and shaders as possible into smaller areas, it doesn't look like the real world at all.
I hope they put all this technology into a game that lives up to Crysis 1 as opposed to the infuriating Crysis 2 which wasn't just dumbed down. It was a dumb game period.
Can't even freaking run in that game without suit energy, what kind of FPS doesn't allow you to run...
BUT GUYS GRAPHICS AREN'T IMPORTANT THEY NEVER LEAD TO BETTER GAMEPLAY OR IMMERSE YOU IN THE EXPERIENCE AT ALL /troll
Looks great. Still seems like a transitional technology (much like Frostbite 2) but it is damn pretty.
Looks great. Still seems like a transitional technology (much like Frostbite 2) but it is damn pretty.
Hopefully there's more game behind it than Crysis 2, which was a pretty substantial step back from Crysis 1.
"While I'm always a gameplay-over-visuals guy." Graphics are just as important to gameplay depending on what the game calls for. An indie game like Lone Survivor relies on its graphical style to immerse the player into the game and something like BF3 relies on its graphical style/power to immerse the player into the war.
People should stop acting like graphics don't matter because they do.
People should stop acting like graphics don't matter because they do.
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