also...
11. MOTHERFUCKING CRUISE CONTROL so you can shoot while driving
I agree with Jim Sterling.
My pimped out cars with my pimped out crew top Niko Bellic's friends calling him on his cell phone all day.
Also, samurai swords on motorcycles.
Also, turf wars.
Also, YES CRUISE CONTROL!!! its pretty brilliant.
Cotton candy is more fun to eat than a Banana Split, doesn't make it better.
ummm . . . GTAIV provided some . . . interesting realism . . stirring narrative . . .
Well, at least the combat . . . uuuh
Well, GTA has lock-on targeting. That's better than everything, right?
I think the best reason of this list is the last one, that's basically exactly how I see SR and GTA. GTA = great sandbox game with a serious and out of place vibe, SR = crass humor and FUN!
since GTA4 is the first one on the next/current-gen so when the next GTA comes out you better believe it will contain ALOT of new content.
which is stupid, because why not just do it on the first one. but trying new technology is tough. but once you get it working perfect you can start adding more stuff.
but i do love my SR2 for its childishness.
I love this game, but the lack of voice-chat in co-op really bothers me. Also, I kept wanting to dive around for some reason...
don't get me wrong, SR2 has its perks, and yes, Jim, you've hit on most of them. But I've seen Volition put out some gems, and comparing these two games is like apples and oranges. You play one game for a trip to a realistic city that practically mirrors the real-life New York City. Or you play the other that lets you pimp yourself, your ride, and your crew, and do some hilarious shit.
(Don't forget about the trophies)
I like GTA IV's physics a little more.. maybe it's because I've been a fan of all of them... I also like the fact that when you hit people with your car the animations and death scenes in GTA IV are a little more satisfying to me
And I don't think GTA IV looks like any other game. It looks realistic, it looks like NYC. Nighttime looks like nighttime. The street lights shine onto the gray pavement.
I think Rockstar did a wonderful job with this game, the lighting, the daylight, everything looks EXCELLENT.
Again.. apples and oranges to me. I didn't buy SR2 for it's graphical superiority, I got it to make me laugh at it and have fun...
I like both games, but I think I like GTA IV a little more because I'm more familiar with it. I never played the original Saints Row, But that doesn't mean I can't see this game's merit. I just suppose it depends on your preference and gameing style.
Fair play, Jim you always hated the driving but if that was less realistic it wouldn't fit in with the rest of the game. It would have felt tacked on.
I don't need any more pimps with walking cane guns. I live in Tottenham for crying out loud. Plus, I'm a cockney bastard and hear myself yabbering on allllll day as it is.
At the end of the day, it's the physics and animation that keep me coming back to GTA. Pushing people down stairs, shooting out the legs of fleeing pedestrians... and it's all animated so sickeningly realistic!
If THQ can match that, I'm sold. But it'll take more than a junior high level of humour to reel me in.
Something is just off about it for me and I don't know why. Yet.
Its like they took Vice City and made a bigger game out of that game's concepts.
The fact that GTA4(I refuse to use roman numerals when we have a far superior numerical system) got so many perfect ratings is completely ridiculous.
That has to be the more important characteristic not just of SR2 but of all videogames in general.
SR2 seems like a spiritual sequel to San Andreas, and kept all the fun that GTA IV took out. I WAS going to keep GTA around to beat it someday, but now I can't even do that because SR2 is so superior to it.
Now, if only Volition would get around to making Freespace 3!
Count me among the perhaps infinitesimally small portion of gamers out there who really didn't enjoy Saint's Row 2. The respect meter was my constant enemy, getting up in my face every time I started to enjoy the missions which wasn't all that often. I didn't care for the minigames because they all felt like they had at most five minutes worth of thought put into them. And being forced to play them was sheer torture. For every moment in the storyline that was funny, there were at least two for me that were just outright disturbing. Some of the murders you commit turned my stomach and that's pretty unusual for someone with a sense of humor like mine.
That's not to say I find nothing of value in SR2: the customization is undoubtedly impressive (perhaps the game's sole saving grace) and the in mission checkpoints are hopefully making an impression on Rockstar. But I for one had far more fun playing GTA 4.
Perhaps people are agreeing with Jim because they actually *liked* the game? This isn't some sweaty-hand, mouth breathing conspiracy against the modern gamer. If people liked the game, they tend to go out on the record and say so.
If you didn't like it, that's cool. There's tons of popular games that I hate, but don't chalk this up as some sort of underhanded scheme.
I dugg your shit:
http://digg.com/xbox/Ten_reasons_why_Saints_Row_2_is_better_than_GTA_IV
Now I've read this, I can't wait to try it out.
I've not been a huge GTA fan since Vice City. I still buy every iteration, but I inevitably lose interest way too soon. The killing sprees, and random hidden missions when you stole certain vehicles, along with all of the cheese of Vice City especially, was imo what made GTA so much fun. The loss of that self-parody has just left the GTA series feeling generic and eventually, quite boring and forced.
/yawn
The two points you mentioned that really hit home with me are the weapon variety and the amount of side-missions you can undertake. I rather enjoy the tazer and satchel charges. Returning activities like hitman and insurance fraud are great, as are new ones such as fuzz and bodyguard (or whatever it's called).
Also, capturing enemy strongholds is always a good time.
I didnt particularly like this list, it wasnt very funny. I understand the taking the piss out of internet morons who cant discern opinion from fact, but it didnt need to seem so serious...
I took out the katana WHILE ON A BIKE and cut people up. It was absolutely hilarious. That said, I will most likely not pick this up. Ever.
Not because it's bad, just too many great games coming out this season, and, knowing me, I will forget about this game eventually.

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