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Tekken 6 team is having technical troubles with Xbox 360 photo

The whole Tekken 6 on the Xbox 360 was kind of shaky at first, but now it's a confirmed yes. It's too bad that Namco Bandai's Tekken team is having technical troubles with the Xbox 360 version of the fighter.

First off, it seems that fitting the game onto a DVD is an issue. Executive producer Katsuhiro Harada told X360 magazine that it has been a "challenge to fit this game onto one DVD and to make sure the data is read at a fast rate."

"It is essential to utilize the 360’s functions and strengths to the fullest in order to accomplish the same goal. I believe that the data and experience gained during development may affect development of the next iteration of the console."

It's not just storage and data rate, though. Tekken 6's arcade version was developed for a board based on the PS3's architecture. It seems that working some of the game's PS3-optomized code onto the Xbox 360 has also been an issue.

"Tekken 6’s graphics engine was developed for a high frame rate to create fluid motion rather than focusing purely on extravagant still shots," Harada said. "Using a ‘fulltime adjustable animation blur’ which adjusts to each character’s movement and speed, these games show a new level of smooth and dynamic movement. This technology has proved very difficult to realise with fighting games running at 60fps."

"Even here at NBGI, the Soul Calibur Team gave up on it for Soul Calibur 4. In order to accomplish this effect, we had to write a lot of code optimized to make full use of the PS3’s SPU. Ultimately, we implement the same motion blur on the 360 so this will be a great challenge."

Something tells me that they'll figure it all out, though.








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Jesus H Christ's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2009 10:02
Jesus H Christ
I think we can all at least agree that this is Nintendo's fault.
MrSadistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2009 10:04
MrSadistic
Wow, of all the games to have a problem with porting to the 360.

Oh, and screw you Nintendo. You ruin everything.
Chronic Logic's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2009 10:04
Chronic Logic
Deja vu. Why does this sound so familiar? It's like I've heard this before...
TorpedoTed's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2009 10:08
TorpedoTed
Why bother, we have street fighter 4, tekken was lame after number 3!!
mix's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2009 10:10
mix
I hear the new PS3 will NOT have a blu-ray drive.....

That just cracks me up every time I read it.
Qraze's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2009 10:11
Qraze
tekken is great.
RaelXX's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2009 10:12
RaelXX
That's strange, usually programers have difficulties with the PS3. But now I can understande why: the problem is that the Xenon and Cell are too different.
pascuz46's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2009 10:17
pascuz46
Uh ohh. THE DISC!!!!! THE DISC!!
Bob Muir's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2009 10:20
Bob Muir
Erm...huh? I thought that the best way to make a cross-platform game was to design it for the PS3 and then port it to the 360, since if it works on PS3, it'll definitely work on 360. Strange that they're having that much trouble with it...
GeminiEye's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2009 10:21
GeminiEye
Torpedo ted your crazy, Tekken tag and Tekken 5 were awesome. Even the one on PSP were'nt too bad.

In all honesty if they did'nt put it on the 360 I would'nt feel too bad. Maybe give me more reason to get a PS3.
TheToiletDuck's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2009 10:29
TheToiletDuck
Quick.. fly in some programmers!!

:P

Tekken 5 was under-rated.
0bshaky's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2009 10:30
0bshaky


Street Fighter did it, Soul Calubur did it, Dead or Alive did it, Virtua Fighter 5 did it (and added online in the process) so...

Emrah's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2009 10:31
Emrah
PS3 tekken held back for release because of 360, confirmed. The game probably only needed a few changes for a PS3 release. Now we wait, and my interest for this game is fading.

I'd be glad for a multiplatform release, but why can't they release the PS3 version earlier??
TorpedoTed's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2009 10:43
TorpedoTed
@ GeminiEye
i appologise, Tekken tag was awesome!! i like the bowling on it!! :¬)
BoBoTheChimp757's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2009 10:47
BoBoTheChimp757
Make the game small enough to fit on a disk, then offer free DLC?
hitnrun's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2009 10:50
hitnrun
Tekken Tag was awesome.

This problem isn't new. MS's shame at their shriveled diabetic DVD penis has caused them to greatly discourage developers from making multidisc games, just so Xbox owners don't have to hear "omfg rofl u have to change ur disc every six hours!" from PS3 owners.

Ironically that just makes the problem worse because nobody really gives a shit about changing discs two or three times throughout the course of a game; they do care about playing dumbed-down or shortened games.
Gen Eric Gui's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2009 11:06
Gen Eric Gui
hitnrun: This is a -fighting game-. At what point are you supposed to switch discs to load more content? "If you want to play as Bryan, you have to put in disc two, but then you can't fight against Jin because all his data is on disc 1" doesn't fly.
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2009 11:08
Holyetheline
Seems like they're smart enough to figure it out... so yeah, you're right... they'll figure it out.
Volomon's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2009 11:47
Volomon
@0bshaky, I don't think cutting back on quality is the answer most are looking for. However, I think it serves Xboxers right I mean I only brought up these differences two years ago. Now the proof is coming out and all of a sudden it's the developers fault.
Cynical Gamer's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2009 12:00
Cynical Gamer
I don't see why it's a problem. Make it two discs, most people re going to install it on their hard drives anyway.
Aurain's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2009 12:02
Aurain
Pretty weird how PS3 fans aren't rubbing this in too much, where Xbox fans jump at the slightest opportunity.
Danmartigan's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2009 12:02
Danmartigan
And this proves my point as to why the Tekken series is failing. They are spending so much time working on "fulltime adjustable animation blur" that the actual gameplay becomes a recycled afterthought.

I will gladly take SF4's lovely cell shaded effects and new combat system over Tekken's realistic yet cheesy, legacy moves.
Shirley Temple's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2009 12:56
Shirley Temple
All I care about is them NOT dumbing down the PS3 version just so the 360 fanboys don't feel inferior.
pedrovay2003's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2009 13:18
pedrovay2003
@Aurain

That's because Xbox fanboys are a special breed.

I don't think this'll be a problem for too long, but Gen Eric is right --- This is one game you don't want to be changing discs for.
JustLikeBuck's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2009 13:25
JustLikeBuck
@Shirley Temple

There's already been a couple of games limited due to 360s storage medium, GTA IV being one with the highest-profile.

It was only a matter of time when the rest of the hardware would start culling design. I hope it doesn't get so bad that we end up with abortions like Thief 3 and Deus Ex 2 because Xbox limitations were taken into consideration in development.

But I'm sure MS's money will buy a lot of tears :(
J Murda's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2009 13:27
J Murda
360 is a piece of shit.
Bob Muir's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2009 13:36
Bob Muir
@ Aurain

"However, I think it serves Xboxers right I mean I only brought up these differences two years ago."

"All I care about is them NOT dumbing down the PS3 version just so the 360 fanboys don't feel inferior."

It seems like the PS3 elitists are having their day in the sun after all.
TrailerParkJesus's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2009 13:39
TrailerParkJesus
I wouldn't mind if they delayed the game a bit, to sometime like November. Just so it doesn't clash with all the other fighters coming out this summer.
aaronf's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2009 13:48
aaronf
I wonder how many DVDs FFXIII will need.
Dan CiTi's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2009 16:04
Dan CiTi
This proves it, the 360 is a total failure and nothing will save it now.
Xhumation's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/05/2009 21:50
Xhumation
Namco is biased
Steel Squirrel's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/06/2009 02:14
Steel Squirrel
Man... Tekken is a sinking ship.

The gampeplay I've seen looks terrible. Juggle city.

Also, if something like GTA IV fit on one disc, there is no excuse why Tekken 6 shouldn't fit. Weird.
JustLikeBuck's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/06/2009 03:54
JustLikeBuck
@Steel Squirrel
Rockstar had to make significant cuts from GTA to get it onto disk. Lower texture resolution & quality, simpler models, smaller islands.

The game still looks fantastic, but I can't image what it should have looked like... at least they know what to do in GTA V now, I guess.
wonky360's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/07/2009 03:00
wonky360
Japanese developers seem to falling behind with the rest of the world, shame.
The disc issue is just nonsense I remember playing GTA 4, it had a few more assets than a tekken game.
MrSlippery's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/07/2009 15:32
MrSlippery
Tekken is better then SF4, it's a fact.

I was aiming to get this on PS3 anyways, no big deal.
fetusmilk's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/08/2009 21:19
fetusmilk
more tekken bowling please
nice clothes's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/09/2009 20:14
nice clothes
in a sick way, I'm happy to read this. There's been so much hulabaloo about how PS3 is 'technologically superior' to the 360, but every time a multi-platform game comes out they look identical.

I'm now reading that the 360 version of Resident Evil 5 has a better framerate than the PS3, and the PS3 has a mandatory install. WTF PS3? Why is the PS3 not blowing the 360 clear out of the water at this point? Where's all that blu-ray, cell processor, streaming off the HD speed?

Apparently the Tekken guys found it.
Wookiee's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/10/2009 15:44
Wookiee
Is anyone surprised? The xbox simply isn't built for fighting games.

The controller isn't cut out for them and the frame rate is sporadic. This is why they rely on T&A in DOA to distract the players from how painfully mediocre the series is.

Tekken & SoulCalibur on PS3 FTW!
wanderingpixel's Avatar - Comment posted on 03/12/2009 07:57
wanderingpixel
Meh. I honestly don't care much for Tekken. I doubt 6 will change my mind.
Bakerboi's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/28/2009 20:58
Bakerboi
This is what happens when a developer truly builds a game from the ground up to harness the PS3's hardware.

It was first created to be a multiplatform game thus it's not going to be a simple task of just exhanging code. And I feel like FFXIII is going to be going through the same thing.

But in that case it may be a little more forgiving because FFXIII might have less post processing effects
ZetaOmega's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/20/2009 12:48
ZetaOmega
And how is this Nintendo's fault? This' between Microsoft and SONY. Nintendo didn't have any part in this.

Or is it that you guys could be fanboys?
carljohn's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/04/2011 10:56
carljohn
Tekken 3 is my all time favorite haven't play 6 though. joann fabrics coupons
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