LOL WHO R U

And holy shit that's the cutest thing ever Brett.

I see we finally got some sexy faces up in here.

AND THERE'S NO ONE THERE AND I HAVE TO PLAY ALL BY MYSELF AND SHOOT THE WALL

Also, sorry about the lack of screenshots, people. Spencer's an idiot.

I'll be there.

Well considering the time 0:22 I really want go play with you guys, but I really need to find my bed. HAVE FUUUUUUAAAAWWWNNN!!

I RECORDED FOUR HOURS OF VIDEO FOR THIS SPENCER DAMNIT! <3

PS: I'll be there, of course.

All my pretty screenshots! Where are they, you bastard?!

*cries*

You're not off to a good start Mr Hayes. Your blood alcohol content might redeem you tonite, however. See everyone there!

Hey, my photo made the front page. Awesome.

I'm playing music for somebody and have a few drawings to finish, but I'll be there.

sigh homework fortress 2 tonight for me gents

so many bad maps in that list...

I'll try to get on around 10:30pm and actually make loading TF2 back onto my computer worthwhile.

ill try and get on!

@Thomas Lechner

And yet, you offer no alternatives.

@Andy

I'm pretty sure Thomas is either on crack or is maybe thinking this was a call of duty maplist. Also because of drugs.

I WANT MY ANDY BACK.

*starts singing the Chili's baby back rib song with altered lyrics*

@Swishiee

Added the link to your recording!

lol i went back in playing this game yesterday after a 2 year hiatus.

it's still fun as hell but i hate how alot of people have gotten to many overpowering weapons.

doesn't matter since even with normal weapons i was able to dominate once more(4 dominations) as well as top score on the team(i just joined in and manage to surpass the top scorer in 1 hour)

i may not be as dominant as before(i usually dominate people 8-10 no kidding) but for a 2 year hiatus i think i did a good job :D

might join the server, btw how do you join the DTOID server?? i type the address on the console but nothing happens.

anyone help me??

@Andy Dixon

Warmfront, Viaduct, Fastlane_pro, swiftwater, gullywash, obscure, turbine_pro. gravelpit, lakeside.

(the ones with _pro are not vanilla versions of the map. The vanilla versions(especially in pugs) are awful and turn into chokepoint spamfests. These versions fix the most common problems with those maps)

I am going to be one of the first to nickname and welcome our new good friend, Spenis. Here's to a good future. ALSO: hopefully dat internet doesn't crap out on me tonight or TF2 starts working again. I'll try to be on, this is about the only day I get my tf2 fix!

@princeheir 99.9% of the item drops in TF2 are pure downgrades, or at the very least situational sidegrades to the vanilla weapons. The only items that are 100% improvements are equalizer, kritz(100% equal sidegrade), vitasaw and jarate and wrangler. Notice: Weapons that are 100% broken are not listed here, and no I wont mention which items those are.

@Thomas Lechner

Thanks. I'll make sure Spencer sees those and we try to implement a few.

@Andy Yaaaay! Thanks.

I'll be there! I think this time I'll try my hand at Scout......because I'm an idiot.

Ohgodnodon'taddgravelpit!

Also, none of the weapons are ever meant to be upgrades, so "sidegrades" is probably a more appropriate term than downgrades, as very, very few of the extra weapons truly suck.

I actually like Gravel Pit :)

Think we played it a few weeks ago, come to think of it...

@tekbunny like.. 99% of the items are pure downgrades. being good in a single situation but worse in every other makes the item inferior. backburner, phlog, direct hit, liberty launcher, natascha, FAN, soda popper, natascha, brass beast, the 2 shot demo launcher, anything that goes in 2ndary slot on demo besides sticky, all the stupid swords.. all downgrades (I could go on and on)

Next time the server reboots RTV should work. Sorry it took me so long to get it running; apparently all I needed was Spencer to write the blog post for me to get me motivated to do it :D

I think you're really reaching with that exaggerated percentage. backburner offers superior damage all across the board and crits if you know you're map. so not a downgrade. direct hit is great if the rocket speed is better for you to gauge hits. i've seen people go on rampages with that thing. liberty launcher is the same way. if anyting, the soda popper is overpowered. natascha... well, she got beat by the nerf stick a little too hard. brass beast sucks on offense, but is excellent on defense (which is at least 50% of the game /bullshitpercentage), the loch n load demo launcher is overpowered if you can aim. and if you think the swords in combo with the shield/boots are useless maybe you've just never played against anyone who can use them correctly.

but on the flip side, you have the degreaser, flare gun and axtinguisher, blutsauger, the vita and ubersaws, the machina, the bushwhacker, the enforcer, your eternal reward, the (dreaded) dead ringer, black box, widowmaker, jag, etc, etc.

then there's just a lot of flavor weapons.

don't get me wrong, my sasha, scattergun, sticky launcher, medigun and the like are definitely amongst my all around go-to weapons but 99 percent... that's just insane. c'mon now.

I also disagree with Lechner. A lot of the weapons you use will depend on your play style. The vanilla will always be good but almost all of the other weaps are viable for use and almost none are overpowered. It just depends how you like playing.

I'd love to play some arena or is that....OUT OF THE QUESTION

@tekbunner Degreaser is used by probably 9 out of the 10 of the best pyros in the US right now. 1 or 2 use Vanilla. No pyro worth their salt uses the backburner. A pyro flanking with backburner is a pyro doing it wrong.

Direct hit is used in ONE scenario in highlander, and that is long range map anti-sentry. Use in 1 situation makes it a downgrade. Liberty launcher is just bad in every situation. Losing a rocket leaves you with 2 rockets after a jump, and 0 rockets for a retreat jump after firing the 2 it usually takes for your pick. No retreat rocket = dead soldier. Same with black.

I am not even going to touch your brass beast comment. Heavy is immobile enough as is.

Any demo who gets rid of their sticky launcher is a BAD demo. Period. Demo is the most important player on a team past the medic because of his stickies. And in terms of pipes, rollers do far more than you give them credit for. Area denial is just as important as a kill.

Enforcer is broken. period. Anyone who uses it may as well be exploiting a bug. Eternal reward? lmao. Bad spy is bad.

Widow is an upgrade when running minis. Downgrade when running level 3s.

And as per the comment that I have not played someone good... I have started sniper, and heavy on a top 15 HL team in the US. And I have started heavy, pyro and soldier on a top 4 HL team in the US. Yep none of those players were good at all that I played with and against :)

Also... who is your server provider for this? I would suggest moving to NFO. I am guessing you are using gameservers or a personal hosted server.. that is not a good idea :)

This might get me back into TF2, assuming the Dtoid servers aren't rife with what made me stop playing: Half brained people talking about trading, the gargantuan amount of retarded weapons, and the Demoman's sword and shield whores.

@thomas

omg, so pro bro! teach me moar!

Here's an idea: play the game in the way that is most enjoyable for yourself. You know. Make it so that you ENJOY what you are doing. Like in real life!

@november

impossible. there is only one way to play. and that is thomas' way. you are a fucking tool if you use any of the weapons he deems unworthy. only idiots use the black box (to gain life) or the direct hit/loch n load (because they can actually aim).

it is a scientific FACT that any soldier that uses a rocket launcher with 3 in the barrel will ALWAYS die after he's expended that barrel.

FACT. if you use the eternal reward, you can't just be good at stealth, you are obviously a bad spy.

FACT. the black widow is a downgrade if you use a level 3 sentry, even tho you are replenishing your ammo with your dispenser and by, you know, shooting your enemies.

FACT. you cannot kill people with the backburner. it is literally impossible to do so.

FACT. stickies are way more fun than running at someone with a shield and ridiculous sword/axe.

FACT. tf2 is srs bznss.

Yeah ok buddy. Soon as someone disagrees and shows the finer points of a game you play once a week you bust out the "zomg tf2 is srs bznss" defense. GG man GG.

I am not even going to bother going down your list and debunking everything you said with actual gameplay facts. Not worth the effort.

indeed it is not, because tf2 is a game that is meant to be fun.

i get where you are coming from, i really do. i usually roll with all the "usual suspects" weapons. minigun and scattergun are gods. gloves of running urgently. kritz and uber 4life. enforcing dead ringers are broken. whatever. all i'm saying is that all the other stuff they give you is meant to spice things up. you sound like a meat and potatoes kind of guy. that's cool. it's solid. i just can't stand when elitist competitive-style players shit talk fun. so what if the buffalo steak sandvich sucks overall? it still serves its purpose, and if someone has a knack for the weapon they can really excel. it's a pub match dude, get over yourself and have a good time.

tl;dr, you're pro, bro, i get it. your dick is gigantic, and dwarfs small cities. some people just like to have fun. i know; it's absolutely crazy. see you next tuesday!

Let me end this thread on a light note: this week's match was the most fun I've ever had playing an online game. Hope this insanity keeps rolling into the next get-together. Hope to see you all there!