Really, it doesn't matter though - you like what you like and that's it. If someone else doesn't like it, it doesn't mean that it wasn't an awesome game, it only means that people have different tastes. What's awesome to me might be shit to you, plain and simple.
You are either batshit crazy, or you are trolling the entire dtoid community like a fucking MASTER.
There are so many examples of the amazing things that games are capable of, with so much left to be explored, and all these guys could come up with is... another game about swining swords at and being attacked by dragons?
DEPRESSING! I WILL NOT SUPPORT IT!"
I don't personally know anyone like this. To use a current example, Battlefield 3. I'm not a fan of Battlefield, so I didn't buy Battlefield 3. I have a lot of friends that play it and that have invited me to play, but I'm not personally interested in it, so I skipped it.
Everyone I know on my friends list has some kind of connection to the game: they've played Battlefield for years, or maybe they just really enjoyed the beta. I don't really know anyone who bought it just because everyone else would be playing it.
It does sound like something a kid would do though; begging their parents to buy them the cool new game because all their friends have it. Or on Youtube, where people also try to get into the most popular games so their videos can get more views. That's pretty childish too...
tl;dr: Children suck at video games.
Actually the thing I get fed up with is when people try to define what a "real" game is, or what gaming should "really" be all about. Like, you might say that games really should be about creatively expressing all the existential weirdenss that goes on in people's minds and lives, using your particular preferred surrealistic art style and gameplay focus, while Chad might say that games are all about the striking, memorable moments they present you with, while the Rev would probably say games "should" all focus on emergent storylines that serve as tools of self-expression, while Jim might say that games ideally are a simple, fun, focused experience that should entertain the player above all else, through balanced narrative/gameplay means. The thing is, though... why do we have to settle on one thing that games "should" be, when they can be all these things and more? Sure, it's easy to say that games should never be "like movies," and that this is wasted potential, but even the most cinematic of games can present experiences that couldn't happen any other way, and their presence doesn't stop other types of games or other approaches from happening. That's just one example... I think that even people who understand and accept that everyone has different tastes are prone to falling into the "this is what games should be" trap.
Those are just some things that have been kicking around in my head for a while, I'm not trying to attack anyone or anything lol.
As for the actual message, I agree completely. I don't personally enjoy platformers, so you probably won't see me in a Mario thread. I don't like third-person shooters much, either, or military FPS games, but it does not bother me in the slightest that other people love them. CoD is your favorite game? Fine with me, I have no intention of mocking anyone for that.
I think it's the mocking that bothers me the most. As if someone who likes CoD is mistaken in what they enjoy. The same with people who down RPGs all the time, or even, as referenced above, story-driven games. I don't understand why some people think their personal taste is superior. Of course there are aspects of games that can be criticized objectively, but the fact that someone likes a particular game cannot be argued.
Part of this is simple, in that a lot of gamers are not yet mature. The ability to understand and accept that there are different perspectives in the world is something that has to be developed. Most small children cannot understand that their opinion is not an absolute, and this belief can take a long time for some people to grow out of. Of course, quite a few people never do grow out of it.
Depressing! I will not support it!!
I still have yet to play Uncharted 2, so when that won GOTY after GOTY, I felt like it didn't deserve it. It's a game I really need to play it to put it in perspective, and I hope that I'm open minded enough to see why someone would pick that as a GOTY, even if I still disagree.
I find it interesting that all the games you mentioned, with the exception of Skylanders, are direct sequels. Maybe it's the expectation that gets gamers as well.
If we could all only be the Doctor. Of course we'd have to be David Tennant Doctors, because I don't like shiny new things.
When I expanded my gaming horizons a while back, it was the best thing I could have done. I still play a lot of FPS games, but I can appreciate and enjoy all kinds of games these days.
Mass Effect 2 is a great game (in my opinion), won a lot of prizes because it was a giant step forward for the series, a lot of replayability, immersion, and well written dialog. Everything that people want in a serie, especially in a RPG game. And i think this is (one of) the same reason people are getting excited for Skyrim(like myself)
For me I enjoy the exploration side of Mass Effect. Although I realise there are Star Trek games, to me playing Mass Effect is like playing an engaging episode of Star Trek that I'm in control of. Sure, seducing aliens is part of it, but so is interacting with people and listening to their stories and deciding whether you want to help them out or not, which reminds me of Zelda. Also, I play my Shepherd as Samus Aran for all intents and purposes when deciding her background and how she plays, so go figure - I've made Mass Effect into Metroid.
What should you add to mix it up? Hmm, I don't know.
"I DNT EVEN NO WUT UR FAVRITE GAME IS BUT ITS IS CRAP COMPAIRD TO MINE"
That is an actual forum response from a few years ago when I told someone I that I wasn't interested in the game he was all excited about. Didn't flame it. Just said it wasn't for me. Absolutely hilarious.
"If we could all only be the Doctor. Of course we'd have to be David Tennant Doctors, because I don't like shiny new things."
Only if I had to live in some bizarre alternate world where Tom Baker never existed.
My god you are persistent/stubborn.
On topic; I love your work Holmes, it's always an interesting read and I always wait with anticipation for the next TtWaV.
Anywho, yay for not reflexively hating other people's interests.
Anyway, an enjoyable read but I can't be as optimistic as you about how great it is when people discuss differences of opinion. At least not when it comes to politics and religion. Maybe you just meant games.
Also, if people should seek differing opinions and actually enjoy it then wouldn't that mean there's no friction in the first place?
Maybe you're right about the friction, though in a different way. Maybe people DO want the heat of conflict and that's why people don't want to be happy to engage in polite discourse and disagreement. They want the anger - maybe that's their version of friction. I don't know....
have you actually played mass effect 2? it seems like every time you write an article you end up bashing it or at least implying you level of dislike for it. when was the last time a mario game made you feel a character's emotional pain or question the ethics of brainwashing? there's more to it than shooting and/or fucking aliens. it didn't win goty because you get to see a bra for 5 seconds.
i am legitimately curious as to why you seem to despise these games.
Except maybe less eloquent and more verbally aggressive.
@ DasPooch- Maybe you misunderstood me. I think it's really weird when people are willing to declare that a game they haven't even played yet is already their game of the year. That doesn't make any sense. Do they just trust that much that the developers in question that much? Are they that blinded by brand loyalty and games they've already played that they are willing to say that the game in question is better than every other game of the year (especially in a year like this that has seen the release of many incredible games)
That's really faulty thinking. It's one thing to be really excited for a game, and to be optimistic that the game will be great, but to say an unreleased game is the best game of the year is something else entirely, for reasons that I hope are obvious at this point.
@ Noir Trilby, Henriquegds & mrcecilman- Despise Mass Effect? Not at all! I feel nothing for Mass Effect, other than some lingering disappointment that I've long gotten over. I bought both games, played them for a few hours, felt nothing from the experience, the returned them while I could still get my full refund from Gamestop.
They are definitely well crafted, but nothing about them resonated with me at all. That said, I'll try the 3rd one. Regardless, I am still interested in why other people like the games, so I appreciate the feedback.
I feel the same way when I watch cooking shows. I'm more interested in why people watch them than actually watching them. That's why I love the Shake Weight episode of South Park so much.
@ pokota - I never said that the people that think story is an important part of gaming are "doing it wrong". I've only said that games that try to ape the storytelling styles and conventions of movies and anime are often times doing it wrong. Huge difference there!
I've never faulted anyone for their tastes in games. Rather, I've faulted the games themselves, but only in an effort to share my perspective on the games in question, and never to fault the people that enjoy them
Likewise, I feel no offense when my friends, such as Jon Carnage and Adny McCarthy, tell me why they think that games like Super Mario Galaxy and Animal Crossing are completely definitive and worthless. It's no slight to me as a person.
That said, when people want games to be more like "respectable" forms of entertainment like books and movies just so that they can be more "respectable" themselves, that does bum me out a bit. Self loathing is always depressing!
@ Shinta - Sorry to hear your getting bored with the show. Actually, I feel like the last two episodes were pretty different from the rest. Likewise, I hope the next two episodes are different from these two.
That's sort of how I'm trying to do it.
@ PEnchan707- Friction isn't necessarily anger or conflict. It's just two different surfaces rubbing together. There is friction in making a campfire, giving a back massage, ripping apart two pieces of velcrom, or doing a break dancing back spin.
Heat is not always hostility.
@ Coincidental Irony & Lenigod- I fully understand why you would not want to support games that you think are uninspired and boring, but please, give them a chance just in case!
The war-time FPS genre may seem boring to you as a genre, but that one FPs-ish game about being a war time reporter looked really interesting! Skyrim may have some surprises in store for us that we wont know about until its released! Maybe Squidbear made it into the game after all!
I was initially uninterested in Batman: Arkham City, but now that I know you get to punch a shark in the face in the game, I plan on picking it up as soon as my schedule clears a bit.
Always keep your heart open!
If a game tries to be like a movie and someone likes it, then its existence has been justified. That game should be judged completely and totally for itself, regardless of inspiration, regardless of what the developers were trying to accomplish. I don't care if someone turns 'Citizen Kane' into a game, if there are people who enjoy playing it then everything is cool with me. You don't have to like it, I don't have to like it.
A game can be anything. A game can be pitching pennies, it can be Trivial Pursuit, it can be Scene It on DVD. It can be taking shots when Adam Sandler laughs at his own jokes on SNL. And yes, it can be an interactive movie if that's what someone wants to make.
I just don't get the idea that there should be limitations. Tastes are way too diverse for that. You seem to spend a lot of time thinking or writing about the types of games you don't like, which seems kind of odd to me. I have Uncharted 2 and I still haven't finished it, but like the dozens of other games I've bought that I didn't really care for, I don't dwell on it at all.
Well, except maybe Mario. I've owned three different Mario games, and I'm still not even close to understanding the appeal.

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