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Excellent topic. The whole misconception of what video games are and who "gamers" are really drives me crazy. Stereotyping gamers as mouth-breather shut-ins is just as bad as any other stereotyping. The part that frustrates me is that, like this woman, they themselves probably play video games and enjoy it! Angry Birds, online Scrabble, the Facebook shit, solitaire, fruit ninja, online poker. All video games.
It's one of the re-occuring points of the podtoid that I love: the hypocrisy of people like my mother-in-law who will mock gamers and say they're a waste of time and an intellectual drain, then resume harvesting their fucking farmtown crops. It's just like Kathy Lee fucking Gifford bashing gamers one day, then talk about how she's "wii-ing" the next (Side note to KL Gifford: just because every noun can be verbed doesn't mean it should.)
Well done as per usual, Holmes.
It's one of the re-occuring points of the podtoid that I love: the hypocrisy of people like my mother-in-law who will mock gamers and say they're a waste of time and an intellectual drain, then resume harvesting their fucking farmtown crops. It's just like Kathy Lee fucking Gifford bashing gamers one day, then talk about how she's "wii-ing" the next (Side note to KL Gifford: just because every noun can be verbed doesn't mean it should.)
Well done as per usual, Holmes.
@browneye, so what your saying is that if operating systems were only made by the Chinese and only contained Chinese characters, everyone should learn chinese to adapt to tech. Technology always needs to be adapted for ease of use by a human. Why do you think the keys are large enough for the average adult's fingers to reach and tap on a keyboard? Just because Apple's approach doesn't jive with you doesn't make it wrong. Next time you touch a capacitive screened user interface, thank apple. Also thank Apple for forcing cellular networks to beef up their data propagation in reaction to a sudden increase in demand. Give the devil his due and stop taking the world so rigidly serious, learn to relax.
First she says she doesn't like videogames because they're lame. Then she says she loves Tetris and Puzzle Fighter. I think most of us have run into this attitude and it's always annoying because people who say it are contradicting themselves. People fail to see that videogames are just as diverse as other forms of entertainment.
It would be like me saying that I don't like movies because they're just explosions and violence. Or like saying I don't like music because it's just wailing electric guitars and gruff voices.
It would be like me saying that I don't like movies because they're just explosions and violence. Or like saying I don't like music because it's just wailing electric guitars and gruff voices.
Awesome article.. I've had tons of friends tell me Video games are for kids,and I'm a nerd for playing them.
That is until I handed them a controller.
I've converted most of my friends. Half of them had no idea how far video game technology has come,they expected the same quality we had in our childhood (Atari 2600,NES,etc)and were very impressed within the first 5 minutes.
The easiest way I've found to convert non gamers is to let them try a mainstream "Semi Mature" action game like Uncharted 2.
They are so immersed in the action,they forget they are playing a video game,and by the time they are done they are totally blown away,and standing in line at gamestop :D
As for Apple products, I didn't buy my iPad because it's hipster, I bought it because the tech looked cool,It's easy to transport,and the 3G version would be perfect for work.
That is until I handed them a controller.
I've converted most of my friends. Half of them had no idea how far video game technology has come,they expected the same quality we had in our childhood (Atari 2600,NES,etc)and were very impressed within the first 5 minutes.
The easiest way I've found to convert non gamers is to let them try a mainstream "Semi Mature" action game like Uncharted 2.
They are so immersed in the action,they forget they are playing a video game,and by the time they are done they are totally blown away,and standing in line at gamestop :D
As for Apple products, I didn't buy my iPad because it's hipster, I bought it because the tech looked cool,It's easy to transport,and the 3G version would be perfect for work.
Do you ever speak to any average looking women for these videos, or is only the pretty ones that have value?
I haven't seen all of these so I may be talking out of my ass, but if you ever saw my face you would probably think that anyway.
I haven't seen all of these so I may be talking out of my ass, but if you ever saw my face you would probably think that anyway.
I think that the console 'cycle' also has to do with 'price point'; people don't want to spend a lot for their kids to play games (Wii) will spend a bit more on teens (Xbox) and indulge whatever for themselves (PS3/everything).
I think that a concern of 'mainstreaming' is that game companies will stop making/reduce their focus on games that the core audience likes and instead develop shovelware or banal crap for the mass audience.
Gamers are a distinct set of people; those whose main hobby/life-crippling obsession is video games. By comparision, I may take the occasional bike ride, but I am not a 'biker' and if you asked me if I liked my bike ride, I'd say 'no, I only rode my bike because I was too drunk to drive and it was too far to walk'.
I think that a concern of 'mainstreaming' is that game companies will stop making/reduce their focus on games that the core audience likes and instead develop shovelware or banal crap for the mass audience.
Gamers are a distinct set of people; those whose main hobby/life-crippling obsession is video games. By comparision, I may take the occasional bike ride, but I am not a 'biker' and if you asked me if I liked my bike ride, I'd say 'no, I only rode my bike because I was too drunk to drive and it was too far to walk'.
I think that the console 'cycle' also has to do with 'price point'; people don't want to spend a lot for their kids to play games (Wii) will spend a bit more on teens (Xbox) and indulge whatever for themselves (PS3/everything).
I think that a concern of 'mainstreaming' is that game companies will stop making/reduce their focus on games that the core audience likes and instead develop shovelware or banal crap for the mass audience.
Gamers are a distinct set of people; those whose main hobby/life-crippling obsession is video games. By comparision, I may take the occasional bike ride, but I am not a 'biker' and if you asked me if I liked my bike ride, I'd say 'no, I only rode my bike because I was too drunk to drive and it was too far to walk'.
I think that a concern of 'mainstreaming' is that game companies will stop making/reduce their focus on games that the core audience likes and instead develop shovelware or banal crap for the mass audience.
Gamers are a distinct set of people; those whose main hobby/life-crippling obsession is video games. By comparision, I may take the occasional bike ride, but I am not a 'biker' and if you asked me if I liked my bike ride, I'd say 'no, I only rode my bike because I was too drunk to drive and it was too far to walk'.
I think that the console 'cycle' also has to do with 'price point'; people don't want to spend a lot for their kids to play games (Wii) will spend a bit more on teens (Xbox) and indulge whatever for themselves (PS3/everything).
I think that a concern of 'mainstreaming' is that game companies will stop making/reduce their focus on games that the core audience likes and instead develop shovelware or banal crap for the mass audience.
Gamers are a distinct set of people; those whose main hobby/life-crippling obsession is video games. By comparision, I may take the occasional bike ride, but I am not a 'biker' and if you asked me if I liked my bike ride, I'd say 'no, I only rode my bike because I was too drunk to drive and it was too far to walk'.
I think that a concern of 'mainstreaming' is that game companies will stop making/reduce their focus on games that the core audience likes and instead develop shovelware or banal crap for the mass audience.
Gamers are a distinct set of people; those whose main hobby/life-crippling obsession is video games. By comparision, I may take the occasional bike ride, but I am not a 'biker' and if you asked me if I liked my bike ride, I'd say 'no, I only rode my bike because I was too drunk to drive and it was too far to walk'.
I think that the console 'cycle' also has to do with 'price point'; people don't want to spend a lot for their kids to play games (Wii) will spend a bit more on teens (Xbox) and indulge whatever for themselves (PS3/everything).
I think that a concern of 'mainstreaming' is that game companies will stop making/reduce their focus on games that the core audience likes and instead develop shovelware or banal crap for the mass audience.
Gamers are a distinct set of people; those whose main hobby/life-crippling obsession is video games. By comparision, I may take the occasional bike ride, but I am not a 'biker' and if you asked me if I liked my bike ride, I'd say 'no, I only rode my bike because I was too drunk to drive and it was too far to walk'.
I think that a concern of 'mainstreaming' is that game companies will stop making/reduce their focus on games that the core audience likes and instead develop shovelware or banal crap for the mass audience.
Gamers are a distinct set of people; those whose main hobby/life-crippling obsession is video games. By comparision, I may take the occasional bike ride, but I am not a 'biker' and if you asked me if I liked my bike ride, I'd say 'no, I only rode my bike because I was too drunk to drive and it was too far to walk'.
my 65 year old mother just bought an iTunes card so she can BUY GAMES on her iPad. I never thought I'd see that day, but yeah, Steve Jobs made tech and gaming accessible for people of any age, gender, etc, etc.
This is fucking gold. You Katamaried that lovely woman into a gamer. +1 to dagger throw for you @JonathanHolmes.
No, to answer your question, it doesn't matter. I remember this one time I was in GameStop and this 40 year old woman was buying $60 worth of facebook farmville points cards (?) or whatever the hell they're really called. I was just in shock & awe because although I identify myself as a quote unquote gamer, definitely retrogamer, what kind of gamer could I classify this woman as? Or when I watch my 8 year old nephew whip my ass in Super Mario Galaxy? What kind of gamer is he? I even went to lengths to purchase him some NES classics (Excite Bike, Zelda, Castlevania, Ninja Gaiden, Double Dragon, etc.) on his Wii so that he would get some retro tutelage from his uncle. Or maybe I just spent the money so that I could kick his ass in a game from my time since he gave me a current gen Mario beating.
Yet, ultimately, this is when I realize that it doesn't matter because gaming is a universal medium and much like music or books or tv, everyone has a different taste and just like your point about movies, the box office, the #1 movie in America, sure is mainstream, but remember that the Academy Awards don't always reflect that same perspective. Gamers are exactly the same.
My only beef is that as I'm growing older with max level responsibilities, the personal time investment to good video games grows smaller and smaller and I feel like a freaking tool to pick and choose to play only this game over this game not just because that's all the spare time I have, but it's just what I want to play, dammit. Surprisingly, games I grew up with or games on backlog tend to earn my time the most. A lot of my good gamer friends sometimes frown upon my nostalgia, but I don't care, mainstream or not, I play what I play cause that's how I play videogames. So no, it don't matter Holmes.
No, to answer your question, it doesn't matter. I remember this one time I was in GameStop and this 40 year old woman was buying $60 worth of facebook farmville points cards (?) or whatever the hell they're really called. I was just in shock & awe because although I identify myself as a quote unquote gamer, definitely retrogamer, what kind of gamer could I classify this woman as? Or when I watch my 8 year old nephew whip my ass in Super Mario Galaxy? What kind of gamer is he? I even went to lengths to purchase him some NES classics (Excite Bike, Zelda, Castlevania, Ninja Gaiden, Double Dragon, etc.) on his Wii so that he would get some retro tutelage from his uncle. Or maybe I just spent the money so that I could kick his ass in a game from my time since he gave me a current gen Mario beating.
Yet, ultimately, this is when I realize that it doesn't matter because gaming is a universal medium and much like music or books or tv, everyone has a different taste and just like your point about movies, the box office, the #1 movie in America, sure is mainstream, but remember that the Academy Awards don't always reflect that same perspective. Gamers are exactly the same.
My only beef is that as I'm growing older with max level responsibilities, the personal time investment to good video games grows smaller and smaller and I feel like a freaking tool to pick and choose to play only this game over this game not just because that's all the spare time I have, but it's just what I want to play, dammit. Surprisingly, games I grew up with or games on backlog tend to earn my time the most. A lot of my good gamer friends sometimes frown upon my nostalgia, but I don't care, mainstream or not, I play what I play cause that's how I play videogames. So no, it don't matter Holmes.
@ S1R DUKE- I really don't think that "gamer" means anything anymore. I think I addressed that in last week's episode (though it might have been the week before that), but i know I went on and on about it.
There are so many reasons why someone may want to play videogames, that it's impossible to lump them all under one umbrella term.
@ uglyandbitter- What a loaded question! I think the only way you can really get an answer to watch the other episodes and see for yourself.
I'm certainly not going to start rating how pretty the guests on my show have been. That wouldn't be very polite.
There are so many reasons why someone may want to play videogames, that it's impossible to lump them all under one umbrella term.
@ uglyandbitter- What a loaded question! I think the only way you can really get an answer to watch the other episodes and see for yourself.
I'm certainly not going to start rating how pretty the guests on my show have been. That wouldn't be very polite.
I must say Mr. Holmes i just love your show like i always been tweeting to you it was so funny i really did fall out of my computer chair it didn't feel good but gosh it was funny. i don't do this a lot with shows but i have re-watched your shows 3 or 4 times to take in & understand where you are coming from. so if anything keep doing what you are doing love it & Thank You!
Very classy, Holmes. Props.I'm not sure I could have reacted so calmly to someone making such a generalized statement. I hope I can use that phrase one day. I'll have to practice the dance, too. haha.
OMG, that video was so fucking hilarious. And then you did a little dance and she was all....."What the fuck are you doing?" Hahahahahaha....yeah. Good stuff.
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