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Talking Kinect with Rare

1:00 AM on 09.13.2010   |   Hollie Bennett


Being a European Community Manager, I will always have that soft spot in my heart for the European games industry. Ben, the new Community Manager for Rare, had been one of the first friends I had ever made in the UK games industry, and when I saw him at PAX I couldn't resist the chance to snag an interview.

Not only do we talk about what new games Rare is bringing out for Kinect, but that difficult transition Rare is making from old Rare to new.








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Hollie Bennett is Destructoid's UK Community Manager and video producer/personality. She also the host of our British podcast, models, and will totally drink you under the table boys. Likes Final Fantasy VIII, The Final Fantasy VIII soundtrack, Xbox 360, Alistair from Dragon Age: Origins, N64 based Zelda experiences Meet the rest of the team



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llort het's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/13/2010 01:11
llort het
can rare please just change the name of their company?

They are pretty much a shell of their old selves. I'm not even a huge fan of their older games (except the snes era) but I can't imagine the transition from making quality games, to wii sports rip off was difficult. Also no the kinect doesn't appeal to everyone, and no, a running carrot does not remind us of Banjo Kazooie.
Electrium's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/13/2010 01:45
Electrium
To be completely honest, that was hard for me to watch. Not because it was a bad interview or anything, far from it - it's just...his replies were just hit after solid hit to the gut.
Hiltz's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/13/2010 01:55
Hiltz
Rare: So boss, what do you want us to make next?

Microsoft: How about a complication sports event game with avatars and motion control ?

Rare: But that sounds just like Wii Sports from Nintendo.

Microsoft : ... What did I tell you before?

Rare: To never mention "Nintendo" in your presence.

Microsoft: That's right. We are your new master now. So get back to work on what you do best!

Rare: continuing to disappoint our fans and pretend to be happy about being forced to work on projects we don't really like ?

Microsoft: Yes.
lem's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/13/2010 02:06
lem
A hot dog mascot eating a hotdog is no Banjo or B.Orchid.
I'm not saying Kinect Sports is bad, it's just don't try and church it up more than what it is.
Niho_CoDZ's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/13/2010 02:08
Niho_CoDZ
Rare, I am disappoint.
Niho_CoDZ's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/13/2010 02:11
Niho_CoDZ
Yeah because a guy eating hot dog is very appealing for me. >_<
JimmyDanger's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/13/2010 02:24
JimmyDanger
To be fair to Rare - why does everyone forget Viva Pinata (and VPTIP)?

Probably one of the best in their entire catalogue (and that's including PD1 and B&K) - and now that I mention in BKN&B was pretty damn good too. If I had to play BK 1 or 2 or BK NB , in some kind of hypothetical gun to the head scenario- I'd pick BK NB every time
Wsterfury's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/13/2010 02:43
Wsterfury
My heart.

It bleeds for the bear with a backpack. While I did love Viva Pinata (never did get TIP), and Nuts & Bolts is...finally growing on me after a second attempt at playing it, it makes me rather sad that we will never see a true Banjo-Threeie. :(
Gol-D-Roger's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/13/2010 03:51
Gol-D-Roger
Playing RARE games are some of my earliest gaming memories.

I remember being 7 years old and going to a neighbors house to play some Donkey Kong Country. It was pure fucking joy playing that game for the first time, watching that rare logo come up when you tun on the game.

Even back then knowing nothing of Developers, Publishers and all the
Gaming B.S that comes with growing up, I knew rare was something
special.

I remember looking at a friends SNES collection and coming across
another RARE game, KILLER INSTINCT. Fucing played that game religiously, up until it go lost in a move.

Jump a few years to middle school a friend of mine tells me he just got a game called goldeneye, seeing that rare symbol in the corner, I knew was gonna be good. Put soooo many hours into that game.

Good times....Good times
Netnavi's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/13/2010 03:55
Netnavi
@Hiltz

interesting theory. I wonder if Rare is actually thinking that instead "easy money for little work" This is just going to make the employees at Rare lazy because they aren't making real games anymore.


I have a feeling that Rare could have been great. Sure they miss stepped on PDZ (especially with the directors choices to the story) but that was their learning curve with the new system. but then I think about grabbed by the ghoulies...I just don't know anymore. I really think the new Rare teams are noobies and need a lot of practice at making solid games.
Herdleburdle's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/13/2010 05:19
Herdleburdle
Wow, I cannot believe he's standing there with a straight face saying these games are interesting and new.
ShenMoo's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/13/2010 05:45
ShenMoo
its like when microsoft bought up rare all the grown ups left and only the kiddies stayed behind. im sorry but rare wasnt just a fucking logo, it was the developers and from what i hear (and what ive seen) all the good ones left the company years ago. all microsoft got where the dregs. i wonder if they know how much of a joke they are compared to other dev teams.

Seriously for the amount of money microsoft spent im amazed they havnt freaked after seeing the low quality of their recent output, they need to either pull the plug or implement some massive changes
Bakewell's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/13/2010 06:42
Bakewell
You guys are funny.

Most the games you bang on about with your nostalgia monocle firmly in place were casual games anyway. Could it be possible that rare hasn't changed that much and your tastes have matured?

No. It's because rare suxxs now and it's not fair. Bawwwwwwwww.
Hasney's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/13/2010 07:16
Hasney
VP is brilliant but PDZ... Ugh. It even felt dated at the time and I am a much bigger fan of the non health-regen and carry as many weapons as you can find FPS's to the Halos and CODs of this world.

I've played the original PD to death since it came out on XBLA, but PDZ if awful.
Herdleburdle's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/13/2010 07:22
Herdleburdle
@Bakewell. What, excellent platformers with funny characters, fantastic level design, art and music are casual games now? Not on my watch!
Onyx Oblivion's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/13/2010 07:26
Onyx Oblivion
Why the hell does Dtoid even let blank comments through?

God damn it. Well, I sat through Rare's current gen offerings, and I had a blast with Nuts and Bolts, Kameo, and Viva Pinata. Sure, they're not as good, but they're still damn good, and more original than most other devs. This though, this makes me sad.
Neroisonfire's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/13/2010 07:40
Neroisonfire
Sofik, viva piñata isn't exclusive :x

also, it's a shame that they're on the kinect fad but I would expect no less to be honest. They're microsoft's now and ms is pumping as much effort and money it can into the casual motion control market.

Whatever. I gave up hope on seeing sequels to the old games I loved. At least by rare.
X3Ent3nte's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/13/2010 07:51
X3Ent3nte
rare: selling your soul to commerce, a cautionary tale. At least they can serve as a warning to valve to forever stay independent
LittleBigD's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/13/2010 08:17
LittleBigD
@Bakewell
What Herdleburdle said.

You know the definition of the words "casual gaming" have become totally twisted when anyone could consider a game like Diddy Kong racing, one of the greatest cart racers ever, a "casual game."
MasterBalls's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/13/2010 09:45
MasterBalls
Wait a minute, Perfect Dark the only offline competitive multiplayer game on HD consoles? Bullshit.
Woopman's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/13/2010 17:34
Woopman
DIE, NEW RARE, DIE!
P3ter's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/14/2010 12:49
P3ter
I CAN DANCE WITH MY AVATAR?!!!

Im getting this.... (Not really)
Dr-Peace's Avatar - Comment posted on 09/15/2010 18:58
Dr-Peace
I miss Rare, and truly hate Microsoft, the Stamper brothers, Nintendo for losing their stock, god, Peter Molyneux and whatever else has lead to them making casual fodder for this deeply flawed device. Back in their prime, they WERE the hardcore.

I STILL believe even now that they have that Rare charm, Nuts & Bolts was a pretty damn funny and self-aware game at times truth be told. They tried to be innovative with that game regardless of how people think it turned out (and Rare were an innovative bunch), but now I don't know what's going on.

You guys might think you have it bad, but I actually wanted (and live close enough) to ACTUALLY WORK with these guys. That dream kinda died long ago... now it's just a maybe.


Also, new logo burns my soul.
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