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Sony and Microsoft's defining indie developers tell all photo
Sony and Microsoft's defining indie developers tell all
by Jonathan Holmes

It's been a power-packed couple of weeks on Sup Holmes (now on iTunes). Last Sunday we were welcomed by a wonderfully pregnant Kellee Santiago, co-founder of thatgamecompany (fl0w, Flower, Journey). At the height of her game, Kellee dropped the mic and joined the team at Ouya (which hits retail at June 25th) as head of developer relations.

We talked with Kellee about how she got started in development, why she's so excited about Ouya, why she left thatgamecompany, the potential for her to "get the band back together", how to market my dumb game idea about collecting art and making it fight Pokemon style, and a lot more. Kellee's ability to embrace risk and make it work for her is an inspiration. She even showed us her baby bump. Giving birth to a human being while working on launching a new home console at the same time? Amazing.

Just as Kellee's story defined everything that Sony did right with indie development on the PS3, James Silva's story defines everything that Microsoft did right with indies on their last console. That's not all James and Kellee have in common. He's also no stranger to risk. Working almost exclusively on the Xbox 360 (both XBLA and XBLIG), releasing multiple titles developed alone or with his wife, he's continued to stay true to his unique vision for hand drawn, punk rock, comedy action games (The Dishwasher series, I MAED A GAM3 W1TH Z0MB1ES 1N IT!!!1, and the upcoming Charlie Murder)

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3:00 PM on 06.09.2013

Game Jams, democracy, and new found fame with Drinkbox

We normally run a live airing of Sup Holmes live at this time every Sunday, but due to E3 shenanigans, we did show yesterday with the great James Silva (and his wife and two cats). So instead, here is a re-run of last week's...

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2:45 PM on 05.30.2013

Luftrausers goes color while Vlambeer goes live stream

On last Sunday's Sup Holmes (now on iTunes) we were joined by the unflappable Rami and J.W. of Vlambeer fame. The reveled the path of near-cancellation and eventual success of Ridiculous Fishing, the origins of their unique ...

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6:00 PM on 05.22.2013

Tons of exclusive info on Lone Survivor PS3 and New Game+

Jasper Byrne, creator of Soundless Mountain, Lone Survivor, and the upcoming release New Game+ had a lot of new info to share with us on last weeks Sup Holmes (now on iTunes). We heard about the new graphics, new content, an...

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10:30 AM on 05.18.2013

Cart Life dev reveals new game, is humble and lovable

I'd like to pay Richard Hofmeier to talk to me about videogames. During last week's Sup Holmes (now on iTunes), he told me about so many great things, like the free online "game" Geoguessr, surrealist interactive text auteur...

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2:00 PM on 05.11.2013

Shovel Knight devs on success, Mega Man, and more

Last Sunday of Sup Holmes (now on iTunes) we were joined by Sean, Woz, and Erin of Yacht Club Games. We got the full scoop how their debut game Shovel Knight has managed to gather so much attention (and money), why...

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10:00 PM on 05.03.2013

Two new games from Krunch devs: Binge and Chihuahua Libre

Last Sunday's Sup Holmes (now on iTunes) was slightly intoxicated foray into the mind of two tattooed barbarian warriors who just happen to make videogames.  Though I don't get the sense that Vieko Franetovic ...

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Should games replace text books? photo
Should games replace text books?
by Jonathan Holmes

On last Sunday's Sup, Holmes? (now on iTunes) Steve Swink made me look bad. I thought I knew a thing or two about the man, but our discussion revealed that there a lot of important stuff that I had missed, like his work on Tony Hawk: Underground and the book on game design he wrote. I also learned about the beard of sorrow he grew while working on an unreleased Xbox game called The Unseen. I can relate with a man who has grown a beard of sorrow. 

The meat of the conversation focused on two things, Steve's upcoming game Scale (exclusive screenshot featuring new pretty-as-f*ck art direction  in the gallery) and Steve's work on videogames purposed to replace text books in the nation's school system. I can't decide which one is more likely to make him rich and famous. Scale is a game where you can grow or shrink any object in the game to nearly any degree. It's the kind of game that is compatible with almost any human, as almost every human is more fascinated with things that are very, very large or very, very small. The challenge for Steve is to make the game live up to the mechanic. I don't envy the amount of work it'll take to pull that off, but I'm confident he can pull it together.

As great as Scale sounds, I'm actually more excited at the prospect of Steve's work in the education system. The two games he helped designed for the school curriculum (one on Earth Science, the other for Persuasive Writing) sound amazing. To treat children with respect and to reward them for growing and achieving through the language of videogames is just brilliant. It sounds like it worked too. To give today's kids (and the rest of us for that matter) the opportunity to learn through doing instead of tasking us to coldly download information through memorization seems like common sense, but it takes risk takers to make it happen. So make it happen, everybody. 

Thanks again to Steve for coming on the show, and tune in this week when we welcome fighting game champion, Talk Fast star and Divekick developer Adam Heart to the program. It'll be a hoot.

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11:30 PM on 04.03.2013

Will Smith, guns, and 'feel bad' games with Paul Greasley

Last week's Sup Holmes (now on iTunes) had me biting my tongue at a constant pace. Paul "Farmer Gnome" Greasely is one of those developers who takes their own amazing ideas for granted in a way that leaves you wanting to sha...

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10:00 AM on 03.19.2013

Team Meat's Edmund McMillen on Mega Man, MewGenics & More

So much magic was packed into in last Sunday's Sup, Holmes? (now on iTunes) that no recap could ever do it justice, but here goes.  We got a lot of new info on MewGenics. Edmund talks a lot about the psychology of the g...

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Teaching, Skyrim, and growing up Ernie with Erin R. photo
Teaching, Skyrim, and growing up Ernie with Erin R.
by Jonathan Holmes

Erin Robinson is great. She was gracious enough to appear on last week's Sup Holmes (now on iTunes) and we had a top-notch discussion that was full of surprises. Who'd have guessed it was Ernie's Big Splash (on DOS, which is harder to find video of) which initially got her into the medium, or that it would be the games of Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw that would bring her back into gaming after the shooter fad of the '90s burned her out? Not me. 

I also would have never guessed that Erin was asked to teach a class of teenager girls how to develop videogames (resulting in something that sounded like a cross between Epic Mickey and Metroid Prime 2), and that experience would result in her flying to Sweden and teaching a college course on game development, but that all happened too.

She owes these real-life adventures in part to Adventure Game Studio, the development too she used to make her first games. A small library of adventure titles later and now she's on the cusp of releasing Gravity Ghost, a hand-drawn terraforming puzzle platformer. I can't wait to play it, and to see where this career takes her next. She's already done so much, but it's clear that she's just getting started. 

We talked about a lot more than that, so check it out. Thanks again to Erin for being on the show, and be sure to tune in this Sunday at 1:00pm Pacific/4:00pm Eastern when we welcome Edmund McMillen to the program. We'll be talking about Mew-Genics, Super Meat Boy: The Game, Binding of Isaac: Rebirth, and whole lot more. I shall love it, and I hope you do too.

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7:45 PM on 03.06.2013

Papo & Yo creator on risk, therapy, and future of gaming

Last Sunday's Sup Holmes (now on iTunes) was a powerful one. The subject was Papo & Yo, one of the first openly autobiographical games to hit home consoles. Vander Caballero created the game based on his relati...

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9:45 PM on 02.22.2013

Adult Swim, success, and failure with PixelJam

Last Sunday on Sup Holmes (now on iTunes), Rich Grillotti and Miles Tilman of Pixeljam Games tolerated my ridiculous blanket statements regarding art student stereotypes and bared their souls to me. It was hard to ...

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9:00 AM on 02.04.2013

Mark of the Ninja dev cut teeth on tabletop RPG design

Mark of the Ninja lead designer Nels Anderson is on a roll. His first time running lead on a project and it scores multiple perfect scores, giving Klei Entertainment a new hit game to play with. The game's success can be lar...

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2:30 PM on 01.28.2013

The Stanley Parable HD is more than a straight port

Last Sunday's Sup, Holmes? (now available on iTunes) with The Stanley Parable creator Davey Wreden was an orgy of ideas. I know UmJammer Lammy, angry internet people, how narrative works in games as opposed to other mediums,...

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1:20 PM on 01.27.2013

Sup Holmes feels futile with The Stanley Parable's Dave W

[Destructoid's Director of Communications Hamza Aziz asked Jonathan Holmes to make a show called 'Sup, Holmes?' so that Destructoid could later sell a t-shirt that says 'Sup, Holmes?' on it. This is that show. Subscribe...

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