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I see no problem with this. Agreeing to pay a monthly subscription does not permit you to abuse any loopholes you may find. Bioware may not be saying so right now, but I expect this to be patched in the near future. In other words, business as usual for MMOs.
@BoomingEchoes: I've already mentioned the "World First" Lich King encounter, and I gotta say I've got a much different perspective on that. In order to find the bug, the players had to drop grenades on the outer ring of the platform, far away from the boss. They knew what was causing the bug, and they also knew as well as anyone who's ever even attempted Lich King that having the outer platform up the whole time completely trivializes the encounter (the defile gets very easy to manage and the val'kyr do literally nothing).
A raiding guild, especially a top-tier one, that actually gave two shits about anything besides being able to claim "world first" would've either not used grenades there (easily done) or backed off and alerted the gms (who were watching their attempts). Instead they did several attempts after that and relied on an exploit to win at a vastly easier fight (robbing their rivals of the title in the process).
They knew exactly what they were doing, and I have zero sympathy for what they got.
A raiding guild, especially a top-tier one, that actually gave two shits about anything besides being able to claim "world first" would've either not used grenades there (easily done) or backed off and alerted the gms (who were watching their attempts). Instead they did several attempts after that and relied on an exploit to win at a vastly easier fight (robbing their rivals of the title in the process).
They knew exactly what they were doing, and I have zero sympathy for what they got.
-Visiting zones the game fully allows you too before an imaginary railroad tells you to
-Using "naughty words" in private messages to friends
-Using the auction house "too much"
And this isn't even two weeks in. This is why EA should not be allowed to run a MMO...or anything for that matter.
-Using "naughty words" in private messages to friends
-Using the auction house "too much"
And this isn't even two weeks in. This is why EA should not be allowed to run a MMO...or anything for that matter.
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What's next, killing more than the alotted number of enemies in a day also gets you banned? Playing the game the way it was presented is *not* a loophole. If it was supposed to be, the developers screwed up.
Also am I the only one bothered by the "FREE BOXES ALEWT" thing? Why do these chests even exist? If the concern is the "economy", why does this zone even have free money generators?
What's next, killing more than the alotted number of enemies in a day also gets you banned? Playing the game the way it was presented is *not* a loophole. If it was supposed to be, the developers screwed up.
Also am I the only one bothered by the "FREE BOXES ALEWT" thing? Why do these chests even exist? If the concern is the "economy", why does this zone even have free money generators?
Until it's fixed, there is nothing out of the ordinary or wrong in suspending people that do this. They should've caught this, or built systems that just wouldn't allow for it, but they didn't so now it must be fixed. And it is a big deal, because chances are that gold farmers are doing it. I think the best option would be to build the game so that you are REWARDED for doing stuff like this- for example, turn it into a quest, direct lowbies into a highly dangerous high level area, and reward them if they can get out alive.
tl;dr Bioware left an exploit in the game, and instead of telling people to not use it and giving out warnings and short (<24 hour) temp bans, they gave out longer bans and blamed the players.
GOOD JOB BIOWARE, THIS IS WHY NOBODY LIKES YOU. Oh, and DA2.
GOOD JOB BIOWARE, THIS IS WHY NOBODY LIKES YOU. Oh, and DA2.
bans for playing the game wrong. Wow, they got the right idea, please SWTOR mods, let me escort you to LoL.
Well I can currently get high level gear by using Treasure Hunting Lockboxes and I'm level 25 and just happen to have maxed treasure hunting. Seems though I could potentially be a candidate for banning too.
Their game, their world, their rules. It's clear this isn't happening to EVERY player who visits Illum, opens the boxes, and then moves on. Some people are clearly exploiting a known glitch that allows them to duplicate or farm rare, expensive gear that will mess with in game economy and auction house prices.
The TOS is pretty clear that abusing known (or even unknown) glitches can/will result in a ban. Don't like it? Don't play. Simple as that. The rest of us will play by the rules and do just fine.
The TOS is pretty clear that abusing known (or even unknown) glitches can/will result in a ban. Don't like it? Don't play. Simple as that. The rest of us will play by the rules and do just fine.
This is nothing new. Sony has banned players for exploiting game bugs since they got into the MMO biz. Just because a game allows you to do something, does not mean you allowed to do it. Suppose for example you found a rock on the ground and everytime you clicked on it you received 1,000,000 gold.. Now, you know that is not suppose to happen, but you do it anyway., You are exploiting an obvious bug. You deserve some kind of action against your account for exploiting. Many players will use the dodge "How did I know it was a bug". Well, that doesn't fly. Anytime you find an action in game that you know is not suppose to happen, like the clicking on the rock, you should report it rather than exploit it. If you do exploit the bug then you should be prepared to have some kind of action taken against your account, which could include being banned.
@Kasmar45: Exactly. I remember when I first started playing Warhammer Online, there was a few bugs regardig Keep Sieges that allowed players to become invunerable and also spam the oil w/o cool down. The first time you click something and it gives you a result that is clearly (or even remotely similar to) a exploit, you should immediately file a ticket with the CSR system. This saves you from any action from the TOS Enforcement Team.
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