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That's very very pretty indeed.
SSBB and Super Mario Galaxy are going to open up what the Wii can do graphically, I think. Looking at the detail and the lighting effects in both games, there are times when the character models almost look like claymation.
I've very impressed.
SSBB and Super Mario Galaxy are going to open up what the Wii can do graphically, I think. Looking at the detail and the lighting effects in both games, there are times when the character models almost look like claymation.
I've very impressed.
You know, I have had a wii since launch. I don't own any games though. I found none of them to be a "keeper" caliber.
The only reason I keep the system is for SSBB...
The only reason I keep the system is for SSBB...
David, I agree that SSBB and SMG are going to do that, but what will do that even more? Whatever SquareEnix makes for the Wii. I've always felt like they really push graphics as far as they can go, so once they release something worthwhile on the Wii we can decide just how good things can look.
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but these screens seem a little blurry in contrast to other screens i've seen before. none the less, the game still looks prettier than ever. i liked seeing the mario contrast of the ssbb model and the ssbm. soo hot, want to touch the hiney (sp?).
but these screens seem a little blurry in contrast to other screens i've seen before. none the less, the game still looks prettier than ever. i liked seeing the mario contrast of the ssbb model and the ssbm. soo hot, want to touch the hiney (sp?).
@ Dexter345: Another company that can really push systems is Treasure. It still amazes me what they pulled off in Gunstar Super Heroes on GBA.
Dex and Necros: Yes, yes, and thrice yes! If Square don't seriously push a machine graphically, they go home feeling like failures and self-flagellate for days, so I'm really hoping we start getting some decent footage of Crystal Chronicles soon.
And we need Treasure doing some 2.5D stuff for current generation hardware. Their stuff would be a great fit for the Wii.
As I keep saying, the end of this year/beginning of next is going to kick some people up the arse in terms of Wii technical capabilities. It'll never be a 360 on that front, but I think it can hold its own in its own way.
And we need Treasure doing some 2.5D stuff for current generation hardware. Their stuff would be a great fit for the Wii.
As I keep saying, the end of this year/beginning of next is going to kick some people up the arse in terms of Wii technical capabilities. It'll never be a 360 on that front, but I think it can hold its own in its own way.
@Nec - GSH was an awesome game. Looked great, was hella fun, all around asskicker. Anyone know if Treasure is doing anything for the Wii?
I've said from the beginning that Nintendo's tech is just going to take a little more time and subtlety, relative to the other platforms where you can just throw more processor and memory at inefficient code and make it all turn out okay. (I'm looking at you, EA.)
I've said from the beginning that Nintendo's tech is just going to take a little more time and subtlety, relative to the other platforms where you can just throw more processor and memory at inefficient code and make it all turn out okay. (I'm looking at you, EA.)
David: I agree, a lot of the Wii's problem so far is the fact that developers are using the underpowered nature of the system as an excuse to be lazy instead of a challenge to make an awesome looking game. If the Wii had the power of a 360, would we see so many last-gen ports and games looking like ass? I actually don't think so.
Mario Galaxy and SSB are showing the world that the Wii is capable of at least forging new-gen graphics. Like I said, attention to detail goes a long way, and being able to use the Wii's power to is potential, incorporating savvy art direction and making sure to add in as much detail as possible will make the Wii truly prove it can impress us visually.
Again, just look at Wario. It's the little touches and extra care that make him look superb, and it proves that power isn't everything when you've got some artistic talent.
Mario Galaxy and SSB are showing the world that the Wii is capable of at least forging new-gen graphics. Like I said, attention to detail goes a long way, and being able to use the Wii's power to is potential, incorporating savvy art direction and making sure to add in as much detail as possible will make the Wii truly prove it can impress us visually.
Again, just look at Wario. It's the little touches and extra care that make him look superb, and it proves that power isn't everything when you've got some artistic talent.
capcom could possibly push the limit of the wii. RE:4 was at worst amazing graphically, and with more power in the wii, i can only imagine what they'll be able to do.
Jim: Damn straight. You need a combination of sufficient technology, artistic ability, and the understanding of how to get the best out of what you're working with.
Millions of polygons will never make up for talent and direction. A beautiful image is a beautiful image, whether it's photo realistic, cel shaded, a cartoon drawing, or anything in between. It's about style and execution more than anything else, and you absolutely cannot make up for that by substituting horsepower. Which is the more beautiful game? GTA:SA or Yoshi's Island? I go for the 16 bit crayons ever time, purely for the creative vision, compositional talent, and mastery of the hardware.
As for the Wii, it takes years for a console's power to be properly understood in terms of getting the best out of it. Most never get that far before the next generation starts. But being based on GC architecture, a lot of the work is already done, allowing "new-gen" graphics to be a be a slightly boosted continuation of the groundwork that was done at the end of the GC's lifespan. We're talking about RE4 as a jumping off point here, so once devs actually start making the effort next year, there will be good things to be had. We'll never get to FFXIII levels, but as I said, in its own way, the Wii will do well in terms of visuals.
Millions of polygons will never make up for talent and direction. A beautiful image is a beautiful image, whether it's photo realistic, cel shaded, a cartoon drawing, or anything in between. It's about style and execution more than anything else, and you absolutely cannot make up for that by substituting horsepower. Which is the more beautiful game? GTA:SA or Yoshi's Island? I go for the 16 bit crayons ever time, purely for the creative vision, compositional talent, and mastery of the hardware.
As for the Wii, it takes years for a console's power to be properly understood in terms of getting the best out of it. Most never get that far before the next generation starts. But being based on GC architecture, a lot of the work is already done, allowing "new-gen" graphics to be a be a slightly boosted continuation of the groundwork that was done at the end of the GC's lifespan. We're talking about RE4 as a jumping off point here, so once devs actually start making the effort next year, there will be good things to be had. We'll never get to FFXIII levels, but as I said, in its own way, the Wii will do well in terms of visuals.
I don't know if you guys are actually going to the site, but there are better (and worse) pics there as well.
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On the topic of graphics so far on the Wii, I feel like they are just as crappy as I expected. The 360's initial crop of games looked like X-Box 1 games, because developers knew anything made with in the lauch window would sell regardless of it's looks.
The Wii has it a little worse, with some games like Far Cry actually looking more like N64 games than anything else. But regardless, it's the same luanch window shovelware that we've come to expect since the PS2 launch.
When we stop buying sub par games, they'll stop making them. Hopefully that will happen soon.
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On the topic of graphics so far on the Wii, I feel like they are just as crappy as I expected. The 360's initial crop of games looked like X-Box 1 games, because developers knew anything made with in the lauch window would sell regardless of it's looks.
The Wii has it a little worse, with some games like Far Cry actually looking more like N64 games than anything else. But regardless, it's the same luanch window shovelware that we've come to expect since the PS2 launch.
When we stop buying sub par games, they'll stop making them. Hopefully that will happen soon.
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