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Throwing aside all gimmicks, including sexy ones, I really, really, really liked this video and will agree with your review score of it, but only when other people are watching. The rest of the time I'll just be glad that there really isn't a reason read review scores or worry about whether I have comparable taste with anyone.
Thanks for whatever it is this is and whatever it was or will be. Also thanks for letting me watch your nipples.
Thanks for whatever it is this is and whatever it was or will be. Also thanks for letting me watch your nipples.
That was too hot, even for the internets.
I will miss these Mr. Holmes. I always look forward to your videos. You continually create thoughtful, creative content that's also good for a laugh. :)
I will miss these Mr. Holmes. I always look forward to your videos. You continually create thoughtful, creative content that's also good for a laugh. :)
The camera was stolen? So will a Sagat/Felicia sex tape be surfacing on the internet shortly?
What do you mean this is all make believe?
What do you mean this is all make believe?
After watching this video and seeing you comment on your stolen video camera again I can't be the only one worried that some odd Sagat/Felicia videos will start popping up across the internets.
@BaloonFighter
What has been said cannot be unseen......
Holmes...you better had not be doin nothin NSFW on dat camera :L
What has been said cannot be unseen......
Holmes...you better had not be doin nothin NSFW on dat camera :L
I come to Destructoid to see grown men cosplay Sagat and then perform a fairly SFW strip tease.
And I'm damn proud of it.
And I'm damn proud of it.
First his Sex-Tape will get leaked
Then he'll be attacked by the paparazzi
Then he'll formally apologize on a Talk Show and cry & He'll write a book
The movie rights will be sold to Universal and Holmes will be played by Taylor Lautner
Remeber us when you're big and famous Holmes
Then he'll be attacked by the paparazzi
Then he'll formally apologize on a Talk Show and cry & He'll write a book
The movie rights will be sold to Universal and Holmes will be played by Taylor Lautner
Remeber us when you're big and famous Holmes
this made a good finale with Felicia, pocket monsters, and Holmes talking about reviewer's reviewers and the jump the shark strip tease. gl hf sagat
This has been a great video series Holmes. You have a great way of masking really great ideas and opinions behind a layer of humor, and I really appreciate that.
Lmaooooo sexy tetris. Thank you. I only fall half into your description of fans who read reviews...I initially read a reviews to figure out if a game's going to be worth a purchase, I'm cheap :P However, after I have a game I will occasionally go back to see if I agreed with a reviewer's review...helps me know if reading their opinions can help me later on down the road with further purchasing decisions.
I will miss SWS. Your show has such an irresistible charm that's unlike anything else I see on the 'net. Can't wait for you to make a come back, cuz.
I will miss SWS. Your show has such an irresistible charm that's unlike anything else I see on the 'net. Can't wait for you to make a come back, cuz.
Honestly, even if I didn't agree with Holmes I'd still agree with him just to see more of his wonderous pecs. I will miss SWS terribly, we must find the camera thief and destroy him/her/it completely.
When I look at a review, I pretty much disregard the score entirely. What matters to me more is that a strong opinion is laid out, the facts behind it are actually correct and that it doesn't sound like some intern is projecting his frustration of not getting to review something "cooler" on the game he's playing.
That and I hope their credentials go deeper than a couple other games in the genre. That's why I'll take a Sterling review on a hack'n'slash review and a Holmes review on a fighter or retro title or Dale North's take on a DS or PSP RPG. I want what's being reviewed to be taken seriously.
The actual score is irrelevant to me, but if your opinion has lined up with games I've played I'm more inclined to trust your opinion when something I haven't played is out there.
I'm still going to try it out, but I can't say that I've been steered wrong by my attitude toward reviews.
That said, I don't know how you review Tetris wall-stickers, either.
That and I hope their credentials go deeper than a couple other games in the genre. That's why I'll take a Sterling review on a hack'n'slash review and a Holmes review on a fighter or retro title or Dale North's take on a DS or PSP RPG. I want what's being reviewed to be taken seriously.
The actual score is irrelevant to me, but if your opinion has lined up with games I've played I'm more inclined to trust your opinion when something I haven't played is out there.
I'm still going to try it out, but I can't say that I've been steered wrong by my attitude toward reviews.
That said, I don't know how you review Tetris wall-stickers, either.
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I actualy really hoped 3rd Birthday was going to be good, but when so many reviewers told me to expect a terrible story, even by modern Square-Enix standards, I accepted it as fact. I decided to save my money for some other game, and went on my way. Oh well, one less thing to empty my wallet for!
@Gamescook - So you accepted the reviews on a game based on the opinions regarding its story?
Pathetic.
Pathetic.
Gutted there's not going to be anymore Sundays With Sagat for awhile. Goddam camera thieves. Damn their eyes! Hilarious as always Holmes, also I have to agree with you. I think a ot of gamers take a negative review on a game they like/love as some sort of personal afront. Don't get me wrong I have seen reviews before I didn't care for or agree with, but as long as the reviewer presents a well-constructed argument, I can actually respect that. It's only when a reviewer says "Game A sucks because it's not Game B", or if they have some personal axe to grind against a particular game/console that I'll argue with them about it.
SWS is my favorite thing about Dtoid , I wish we were real life bff's Holmes. I wish........... *tear streams down face onto his flacid boner*
@The Silent Protagonist: Bit harsh don't you think? to play the devil's advocate a bit, it's not like we're talking about a game were story is a minor factor like a Mario platformer, the PE series had a pretty cool plot for it's time and thought this game steers away a lot (at least from what the trailers showed) from the setting and story from previous chapters did, still managed to look interesting. That said, do you have any impressions to give on the game? i for one am burning for the type of review about that game that you described on your previous post.
Also, good video Holmes, but i'd like to see this topic discussed in a lengthier fashion, maybe Constructoid Season 2 opening episode (i have the firm belief that season 2 it will happen)? i mean we've had Jim Sterlings's POV on the matter for specific IPs at least, but i'd like something a bit more, well, constructive and broad than a rant (even if it is one as enjoyable as Jim's).
It's funny but a lot of what i like about Constructoid is precisely it's positive approach to a critic, so far i know only of another example of such approach from game journalists and that's Extra Credits over at The Escapist and i'd like to see more of that more often, *hint* perhaps a Bit Transmision ep dedicated to it *hint*... ok ok, don't give me that look, i had to give it a shot, but still, i really meant what i said.
It's funny but a lot of what i like about Constructoid is precisely it's positive approach to a critic, so far i know only of another example of such approach from game journalists and that's Extra Credits over at The Escapist and i'd like to see more of that more often, *hint* perhaps a Bit Transmision ep dedicated to it *hint*... ok ok, don't give me that look, i had to give it a shot, but still, i really meant what i said.
Best vid yet Homles! I love the way that your vids have an important (to us) topic thats mixed with comedy. As well as been very entertaining I feel that your implying that all these topics are themselves comically nonsensical of which they really are even though us gaming nerds take it so seriously :D
As for the point you make you are correct, although as someone who likes niche or retro genre games what pisses me off more then anything isnt the reviewers opinion on if he liked the game or not, its when reviewers get their facts wrong because they dont know anything about the genre (or even like the genre in the first place) or even the best playstyle to appoach the game.
One or two pro reveiws on the net where the reviewer completly misses the point of the game probably wont effect sales of a mainstream game that much as most readers will probably already have a good picture idea what the game is like beforehand. Its the more niche or quirky games that really suffer as one or 2 bad reviews are probably all there is on the net and since the common gamer wont have any idea what the game is about are looking to the review to provide them info.
As for the point you make you are correct, although as someone who likes niche or retro genre games what pisses me off more then anything isnt the reviewers opinion on if he liked the game or not, its when reviewers get their facts wrong because they dont know anything about the genre (or even like the genre in the first place) or even the best playstyle to appoach the game.
One or two pro reveiws on the net where the reviewer completly misses the point of the game probably wont effect sales of a mainstream game that much as most readers will probably already have a good picture idea what the game is like beforehand. Its the more niche or quirky games that really suffer as one or 2 bad reviews are probably all there is on the net and since the common gamer wont have any idea what the game is about are looking to the review to provide them info.
I'm in the uni library and had to keep scrolling up and down so I could sneak peeks without looking like I was watching cosplay porn. Mmm.
Everything EdgyDude said is good and right. Constructoid would be a great place to discuss this more in-depth. Bit Transmission, yes, yes.
Everything EdgyDude said is good and right. Constructoid would be a great place to discuss this more in-depth. Bit Transmission, yes, yes.
Even though you're right Mr Holmes, the other thing is though, that the video game industry is so commercialised that reviews are often a "buy or don't buy" kind of deal, and I guess that superfans want the things they love to be played by other people. I know it's the same with movies, but the investment's not quite the same. You're less likely to feel the sting in your wallet after seeing a shitty movie as you are after buying a shitty game.
So I guess the fact is that, even more so than the film and music industries, a bad review can effectively sign a game's death warrant, and that can really hurt people who love it.
Indie game reviews don't seem to get the same sort of vitriol from what I've seen, and I think that's a combination of the kind of gamer who is interested in indie games, and the way that reviewers of indie games (and different reviewers do seem to review certain games- I've never seen a Jim Sterling Bit.Trip review) seem to take a more holistic view of it, as well as an it's-cheap-so-what've-you-got-to-lose kind of attitude.
I hope I've made myself clear enough; I'm taking a very short break from an art history essay due in four hours...
So I guess the fact is that, even more so than the film and music industries, a bad review can effectively sign a game's death warrant, and that can really hurt people who love it.
Indie game reviews don't seem to get the same sort of vitriol from what I've seen, and I think that's a combination of the kind of gamer who is interested in indie games, and the way that reviewers of indie games (and different reviewers do seem to review certain games- I've never seen a Jim Sterling Bit.Trip review) seem to take a more holistic view of it, as well as an it's-cheap-so-what've-you-got-to-lose kind of attitude.
I hope I've made myself clear enough; I'm taking a very short break from an art history essay due in four hours...
@ lotuseater20- You be thinking awesome.
As for the topic at hand, I'm not so sure that reviews have that powerful of an effect on a games sales. Enslaved, Majin, and more 3rd Party Wii games than I can count were all critically acclaimed, but didn't sell all that well. Jim gave Final Fantasy XIII a low score, yet it sold very well, and so on.
All in all, there is never a good reason to personally attack a reviewer. Disagree yes, attack no.
@ TrevHead- "As well as been very entertaining I feel that your implying that all these topics are themselves comically nonsensical of which they really are even though us gaming nerds take it so seriously :D"
Hit the nail on the head, dawg.
As for the topic at hand, I'm not so sure that reviews have that powerful of an effect on a games sales. Enslaved, Majin, and more 3rd Party Wii games than I can count were all critically acclaimed, but didn't sell all that well. Jim gave Final Fantasy XIII a low score, yet it sold very well, and so on.
All in all, there is never a good reason to personally attack a reviewer. Disagree yes, attack no.
@ TrevHead- "As well as been very entertaining I feel that your implying that all these topics are themselves comically nonsensical of which they really are even though us gaming nerds take it so seriously :D"
Hit the nail on the head, dawg.
Great episode, as always! I love that you make fantastic criticisms but do it in an almost loving, understanding, sort of way. It makes your videos feel positive and constructive, rather than filled with anger at the numerous problems plaguing the industry. I hope that Sundays with Sagat and Constructoid can continue, and I was sorry to hear about your home being burglarized. I hope that the experience wasn't too traumatic and that you guys didn't lose too much. Nobody deserves that shit, especially not you.
Thanks for making my life a little bit better with your thoughtful and insightful commentary and great comedy!
Thanks for making my life a little bit better with your thoughtful and insightful commentary and great comedy!
@lotuseater20 I think that you're right to a certain extent. There is no denying that, while it's not the be all and end all for determining a game's sales, Metacritic averages have a noticeable effect on sales and have shaped the industry. A perfect example of this is how THQ lost 25% of its value in ONE DAY when Homefront got mixed early reviews, so in some ways it makes sense for people to want their favorite game to have a high Metacritic average. And on a simpler level, if I like a game, I would like for other people to enjoy it too, if only to be able to share my love of the game with others.
However, Jonathan is right to point out that a high review score does not guarantee that a game will sell (though Eidos, Bioware, and others certainly seemed to think so...). And your reasoning also doesn't account for the level of vitriol that is leveled at reviewers like Jim Sterling whose scores are often far removed from a game's Metacritic average. In a sea of almost 100 positive reviews, Jim Sterling's 4/10 review of Final Fantasy XIII had little impact on its Metascore, but that didn't stop people from getting furious at him, calling him a bad reviewer, and outright threatening him. Jim Sterling wasn't going to make or break Final Fantasy XIII's success, but that didn't stop people from pouncing on his review. In fact, because he DARED to deviate from the "acceptable" FFXIII review score range, he seemed to infuriate people even more.
However, Jonathan is right to point out that a high review score does not guarantee that a game will sell (though Eidos, Bioware, and others certainly seemed to think so...). And your reasoning also doesn't account for the level of vitriol that is leveled at reviewers like Jim Sterling whose scores are often far removed from a game's Metacritic average. In a sea of almost 100 positive reviews, Jim Sterling's 4/10 review of Final Fantasy XIII had little impact on its Metascore, but that didn't stop people from getting furious at him, calling him a bad reviewer, and outright threatening him. Jim Sterling wasn't going to make or break Final Fantasy XIII's success, but that didn't stop people from pouncing on his review. In fact, because he DARED to deviate from the "acceptable" FFXIII review score range, he seemed to infuriate people even more.
So good! So good! I really hope this is not the last SWS we'll ever see. The combination of humor and insight is always just right.
As far as the topic, I've never really understood the outrage at game reviews. I usually read reviews so I can see what someone might have gotten out of a game that I missed, because I like a reviewer's writing style, or just because I'm interested in games in general. If I see that a reviewer's tastes are generally consistent with my own, I might look to their review for a buy/don't buy if it's a game or series I've never heard of, I guess.
I mean, I guess it's the emotional investment that comes with spending x amount of money on a game, but still. If you need someone on the internet to validate your feelings about something, that's a problem with you.
I have Pac-Man wall decals!
Oh also, there had better be stripping in any and all future SWSs. Maybe all future dtoid videos...
As far as the topic, I've never really understood the outrage at game reviews. I usually read reviews so I can see what someone might have gotten out of a game that I missed, because I like a reviewer's writing style, or just because I'm interested in games in general. If I see that a reviewer's tastes are generally consistent with my own, I might look to their review for a buy/don't buy if it's a game or series I've never heard of, I guess.
I mean, I guess it's the emotional investment that comes with spending x amount of money on a game, but still. If you need someone on the internet to validate your feelings about something, that's a problem with you.
I have Pac-Man wall decals!
Oh also, there had better be stripping in any and all future SWSs. Maybe all future dtoid videos...
@Holmes + kinneas123
Yeah, you're both right. I suppose it's all kind of tied up in it, but reviews are never the be-all-and-end-all of a game's sales. I'm not trying to justify that kind of behaviour, either, just suggesting a possible reason for the sentiment, if not the actions taken. I'm so used to skimming through those comments now that I almost don't see the aggression. I'd love to be able to know if it's mostly kids. I can't really imagine any 27 year olds sitting behind a screen being so furious at a review that they spew hate at its creator.
Yeah, you're both right. I suppose it's all kind of tied up in it, but reviews are never the be-all-and-end-all of a game's sales. I'm not trying to justify that kind of behaviour, either, just suggesting a possible reason for the sentiment, if not the actions taken. I'm so used to skimming through those comments now that I almost don't see the aggression. I'd love to be able to know if it's mostly kids. I can't really imagine any 27 year olds sitting behind a screen being so furious at a review that they spew hate at its creator.
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