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[Sundays with Sagat is a video series where a man named Sagat talks to you about videogames. This is serious business.]

This week's episode started off really good. Sagat went on a tear about how each Mario game has a counterpart in the Street Fighter world (Donkey Kong = Street Fighter 1, Mario 2 = Final Fight, Mario 3 = Street Fighter 2, Mario World = Street Fighter Alpha, Mario 64 = Street Fighter EX, Mario Galaxy = Street Fighter 4, Mario Galaxy 2 = Super Street Fighter 4, etc), and it was awesome. I think I even saw his scar glow at one point. That's how fired up he was. Then he went on to explain how the surrealism found in Mario Galaxy is analogous to the perspective-bending work of M.C, Escher, while the child-like fantasy of Mario 64 is more akin to something you'd find in an episode of Barney and Friends.

I shot Mountain Dew out of my nose I was laughing so hard at that last crack, until I noticed that I had forgotten to press record on the camera. After that, Sagat was understandably pissed. Burning with frustration, he pulled a Tiger Genocide on a nearby farm animal, blowing it to pieces (too bad I didn't get that on camera!) After that, his super meter was completely drained, leaving him feeling pretty nerfed, and not really up for talking. That's the chain-combo of events that resulted in the video you see above. Frankly, it's not Sagat's best work, but it still has it's moments.

Hope you enjoy it!

[Note: This video was in no way influenced by Chad Concelmo or his excellent feature on Mario Galaxy 2 . At the time of this recording, neither Chad nor Sagat had even played Mario Galaxy 2, which is why Sagat stays focused on the first Mario Galaxy and doesn't mention the sequel. If you want to see where Sagat did get some of his ideas for this video, check out this typo-packed cblog from community old-timer Tron Knotts.]








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Kraid's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/30/2010 14:16
Kraid
I don't know Mr.Sagat, without Mario 64 there wouldn't be a Mario Galaxy. I don't think that M64 is as important anymore because of the Mario Galaxies now, but at the time it was pretty sweet 3D platformer.

Yeah it's a little dated, but it doesn't mean it was all bad. AND THE N64 WAS A GOOD CONSOLE GODDAMMIT! XD
Bastard Spawn's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/30/2010 14:24
Bastard Spawn
Super Mario 64 doesn't have some ludicris controler, HA!

Eat it SAGAT!
RoverTHX's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/30/2010 14:26
RoverTHX
I thought this would be odd to watch, I was wrong, it was quite good, and it really did touch on some very good points, while its common nowadays people favor the old games over the new for they are what they were, games from a time ago, kinda like how some sonic fans recite over sonic adventure 1 and 2 as the greatest 3D sonic games, regardless of their mass amount of glitches, questionable voice acting, and plot holes. And Sega reuse those glitches, VA, and PH to make Sonic 06. and everyone hated it, why? because everyone expected better.
Springsteen's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/30/2010 14:27
Springsteen
The relevance of your arguments depend entirely on the date of the recording. I will assume it took place after april 28th. In which case, I'll agree entirely. Otherwise, I'd be forced to call shenanigans, given the fact that Sagat was totally broken and unbalanced until Super Street FIghter 4 came out.
ZServ's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/30/2010 14:35
ZServ
I still prefer super mario 64.
Naim Master's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/30/2010 14:40
Naim Master
M64 is more Marioish than Mario Galaxy, at least in the setting.
Wally's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/30/2010 15:10
Wally
I have yet to play either Galaxy game, and for that I am ashamed. I hear all this great praise about it, but to be honest, I'm a bit intimidated by using the Wiimote and not a regular controller.
walrusmustdash's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/30/2010 15:15
walrusmustdash
I don't understand the hate for Mario 64. I mean, I get some of the points that you make here--it was differently structured from other Mario games, for certain--but as much as I love me some traditional Mario, and as much as I adore Galaxy, I've never minded that 64 was different. I loved those "playground" levels that you talk about, and I think the means of controlling Mario was set up perfectly for that environment. The controls in Mario 64 are to this day my favorite in any game, ever. 14 years after its release, I can start up that game and just have fun running around in the environments. Also, though Galaxy does almost everything it does perfectly, its hub world was not nearly as remarkable as the one found in 64. The castle is the best, most cleverly designed overworld I've ever seen in a game, and even though I'm tremendously excited to play Galaxy 2, I wish that they hadn't gone back to the old school-style world map featured in most of the 2D Marios. I agree that people who say Mario 64 somehow makes Mario Galaxy unnecessary are full of shit, and Galaxy is absolutely one of my favorite games of all time, but 64 still just barely edges it out for my affection.
Audac1ty's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/30/2010 15:18
Audac1ty
Sooooooo Mario 64 is too hard for him?
eskimo bob's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/30/2010 15:21
eskimo bob
OH GOD WHY DO I STILL FIND THIS HILARIOUS.
cryophantom's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/30/2010 15:29
cryophantom
In terms of "feeling like a mario game," Galaxy 2 blows 1 out of the water. Even though you're flying from planet to planet, the levels of g2 manage to ooze retro and fresh at the same time. The use of the World maps to navigate galaxies was a good move as well. Hub worlds just aren't really useful or necessary for anything. The faceship was used well as a place you could nab a couple extra lives and throw in some dialog in-between missions.
Solidus187's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/30/2010 15:29
Solidus187
TIGER delivered!
Neroisonfire's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/30/2010 15:38
Neroisonfire
I really wanted to wait to see if anyone else disagreed of it it was perhaps just me. The arguments are there, but I just don't think they're very convincing. Mario 64 was a monumental breakthrough in gaming, so maybe a lot of people remember it fondly because of that reason.
Face's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/30/2010 15:39
Face
TIGER THOUGHT PROVOKE.

Also, you nailed that Sagat laugh.
Johnny Justice's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/30/2010 15:52
Johnny Justice
I like both games, but I think the majority of Galaxy was easier than 64. Just saying there are parts where you die a lot does detract from the fact most of the game is a cake walk. I don't think the punch/kick point is valid when you got the much easier to execute spin attack in galaxy.
indigit4l's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/30/2010 16:21
indigit4l
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Kyle MacGregor's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/30/2010 16:25
Kyle MacGregor
I really just prefer 2D Mario titles in general. I feel as though something that is very central to the series, for me, is lost in translation in the move to the third dimension.
Usedtabe's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/30/2010 17:16
Usedtabe
I would watch this, but I know there will be an ad before the video. If it was only on a few videos, I wouldn't mind. But now there is an ad on every single video, and any time you replay the same video. I know, bills etc. But it doesn't make it any less annoying.
Roager's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/30/2010 17:18
Roager
Bastard Spawn:
"Super Mario 64 doesn't have some ludicris controler, HA!

Eat it SAGAT!"

Yeah, it kinda did. .I loves me some N64, but that controller... it was a bit ludicrous too.
KamikazeCactuar's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/30/2010 18:41
KamikazeCactuar
TIGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!

P.s. Mario Galaxy is better.
Monodi's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/30/2010 19:55
Monodi
Why...-- NO wait. YES. NEVERMIND. YES. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD STAY HERE.
Ball Buster's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/30/2010 19:58
Ball Buster
It's really easy for Sagat to go Tiger Genocide on SM64 in retrospect, but at the time it was revolutionary. It wasn't a big deal back then if the worlds were too huge to know where I was going. It was amazing just having that much freedom in 3D at the time. I mean, holy cheese on rye- you could swim. You could climb trees. You could out-jump Olympic pole vaulters. I spent a few weeks as a 9-year old not even knowing how to beat the Big Bob-omb. That didn't stop me from picking up that N64 controller whenever I had the chance.

Could you replace Mario with a bear and have the same game? Probably. But would Banjo-Kazooie have turned out like it did if SM64 didn't lay the foundation? That's a lot harder to say.

Okay, I know SM64 wasn't the first 3D game. Not even the first 3D platformer, because people were already toying with isometric graphics. (I believe Sonic 3D Blast was out before SM64. But we don't talk about that. ) But SM64 did what it did so well that it gets most of the credit.
Jonathan Holmes's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/30/2010 20:24
Jonathan Holmes
Hi guys! I love you all.
VIPER88's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/30/2010 21:01
VIPER88
Super Mario 64 was great for its day and So was Super Mario Galaxy. Both games show how Nintendo can be innovative and reinvigorate their games over and over again.
Corduroy Turtle's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/30/2010 21:37
Corduroy Turtle
This video is truth. I can't say I'm sold on the Sagat costume however. I'd almost prefer a chalkboard and pointer set up from chemistry class. Nice work Jonathan!
Corduroy Turtle's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/30/2010 21:38
Corduroy Turtle
ps: I wish your nipples were off-screen. Distracting.
Monodi's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/30/2010 22:59
Monodi
@Jonathan Holmes

HEY MAN! DUDE YOU SHOUDL HAVE SEEN! KRATOS CAME HERE TALKING ABOUT SM64! YOU WOULD BE LIKE "OOOOOO MY GAWWWWWD MAYNN"
Dale North's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/30/2010 23:16
Dale North
3d Assicks

TIGER!
Monodi's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/30/2010 23:20
Monodi
wait shit, I meant Sagat.

/jokeruined
TheNomadicTroll's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/30/2010 23:50
TheNomadicTroll
I'm getting tired of these straw man fallacies. We get it, you don't need to spend so many minutes in rambling just to get your point across.
GohanGVO's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/31/2010 00:21
GohanGVO
As someone who played SM64 years after it came out, I can't say that I was overly enthusiastic about its approach to world design. In short, I loathed Peach's castle. It was simultaneously a chore and a navigational nightmare for me, and I'm glad Galaxy had the courtesy to lay things out for the player.

Even so, I still highly respect the game for what it did for the industry. Its legacy can still be seen in a variety of modern games, whether its Ratchet & Clank or even Grand Theft Auto. I'm glad that it exists, in essence.
Chad Almasy's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/31/2010 06:46
Chad Almasy
God I hope this Sagat stuff continues. It's ridiculous XD
Thane Vickers's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/31/2010 06:56
Thane Vickers
Sagat has nice bewbs.

I also disagree with the Mario 64 hate. That game was (and still is) awesome.
Jonathan Holmes's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/31/2010 09:40
Jonathan Holmes
@ The NomadicTroll- What do you mean by "strawman fallacies"? How can an opinion be "false"?

Are you talking about the tiger suit? Because that shit is as real as it gets.

MooImaChicken's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/31/2010 09:58
MooImaChicken
TIGER!!!! Sagat is too cool for school XD
electric goldfish's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/31/2010 21:50
electric goldfish
Still wish the audio was louder on your voice.
mrfrostynova's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/31/2010 23:17
mrfrostynova
Yeah, despite growing up with 64 galaxy is an overall better and more solid game, although your desire for more challenging games is pretty baffling to me. So you want to die more and restart more in a video game?
Jonathan Holmes's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/01/2010 06:04
Jonathan Holmes
@ mrfrostynova- Yeah, I want to fear dying more, because that fear leads to excitement, improvement of my skills, value of my experience while still alive, and a greater sense of accomplishment when I finally beat a level.

Easy games can get boring fast.
EdgyDude's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/04/2010 22:42
EdgyDude
@Holmes: No, fear is the path to the darkside!, fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate... leads to suffering.

Jokes aside, they both did well, if SM64 was made with today's technology things would change radically, but by the 90's standard it was everything we could wish for and more, games rarely age well, but you can't blame them for that.
Jonathan Holmes's Avatar - Comment posted on 06/05/2010 13:35
Jonathan Holmes
@ EdgyDude- Yoda quoted for truth, at least, truth in relation to real life. Fear + videogames = fun, fear + real life =not fun.

And none of my issues with Mario 64 have to do with the technology it was built for. Mario Galaxy could have been done on the N64, just with N64-caliber graphics.

I would have loved that.
otakelittle's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/08/2010 13:07
otakelittle
It seems like many of you are not getting the point of this video. All that is seen is that this video is bashing Mario 64, but there is something more to get get from this video than attacking our precious Mario 64. What I believe what Sagat is saying is that Mario 64 is not at all a Mario game- just the first well done 3D plat-former with Mario sprites in it. Now this isn't about which one you prefer or which one is better, it is just about that if you look at Mario 64 it looks like a Mario game, but the gameplay that makes it is not a Mario game.
Katya's Avatar - Comment posted on 02/08/2011 09:47
Katya
I also disagree with the Mario 64 hate. That game was (and still is) awesome.
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Jsparco's Avatar - Comment posted on 04/14/2011 13:30
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Sagat, I'd disagree.
Mario 64 was by far one of the best games ever created. Hands down.
I'd still enjoy playing a couple games of mario 64.

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