When Sagat suddenly disappeared from this series, a lot of you were like "Cool. Peace out, fatty. Your pancake boobs wont be missed." Surprisingly, a small number of you actually cared. You said that you preferred Sagat to a hardcore gamer-man of presumed European decent and a master Bill Cosby impersonator. For the internet, that's pretty surprising.
Well, Sagat heard your cries for his return, but... he still didn't want to come back.
Still, someone took your pleas to heart. They busted in on the guy in his own house, and forced him to do some video. Here are the results.
And no, this is not a sex tape, though at times, it comes close. Creepy.
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Hilarity aside, I think you touched upon an excellent point I was going to write about with Alan Wake as an example. Have you ever followed the official forums from a few years ago?
There was this strange elitism and pride of being in on the ground floor of an "intelligent game" production right up to an abrupt turning point where PC gamers were so spurned that they bashed the graphics on the 360 before the release?
It's strange to watch a community disintergate like that and reveal themselves to be not that much different from the people they laughed at in the past? And really, were the graphics all that mattered to them in the end because of Microsoft's exclusive practices?
It's sad enough that the same people who thought it was going to do huge business have an entire thread dedicated to game's sales. Then again, it's also quite sad that I've stalked them out of a strange curiosity for a while now.
I don't think I've ever commented on these because quite frankly I don't understand them and they go over my head, bounce off the walls, and hit me square in the eyes, giving me a massive headache (the parts that aren't you actually commenting on videogame things of course) but around like 3:50 or whatever it is my brain just exploded. I thought you might want to know that.
I am one that small number and I approve of Sagat's return with a Darkstalkers mash-up.
Care to divulge the site with that wrote the Alan Wake review? Regardless, I agree with your point. It does seem odd that you'd give someone a game to review and they don't even like the genre, but that just could be the reality of smaller sites for whom having a larger staff with a wide range of interests isn't economically viable.
On the other hand, a wide range of opinion can be helpful. That review could have been very helpful for someone who doesn't like 3rd person action games but was looking at Alan Wake for the presentation and narrative aspects. All 2 of them.
@ UltorOscariot- I'd feel like (even more of) a jerk naming the site, but you can guess that it was a fairly well known outlet.
And I agree with you that having a wide range of opinions can be helpful to the reader. Still, to say any videogame "relies too much on gameplay" is pretty painful to read. They could have said that it "should have had more story elements" or something, but to say that a videogame is too much of a videogame is just nuts.
@ Xzyliac- I'm glad to hear what you think! I know this show isn't for everybody, and I appreciate you giving it a chance.
@ Guncannon- No script for this series, at least, not yet. We may change the format soon, go totally professional, and have awesome celebrities like Megan Fox and Ice-T on the show as guests. It'll really be so much better that way.
@ Stevil- Yeah, this video doesn't even begin to touch on all the weird, arbitrary standards that gamers sometimes have, and all the in fighting that they can cause. It's a huge topic that I think deserves talking about.
@ Tony- I think that's just because Sagat was facing left in the other videos. In this one, he's facing right.
I enjoyed this video way more than the others and surprisingly it WASN'T due to the guest star. I guess I just like seeing depressed Sagat. It's the way I feel about this industry all the time.
I was surprised that the video nearly touched the same topic that Uncharted video does. Guess you really dislike what they are doing. I can't blame you. There are so many fucked up review sites out there with people who shit all over a good game just because of some stupid things like no good story, mediocre graphics and so on. Personally I can't stand guys like that. If they don't like their fucking job then they should move aside for someone who does! Worst thing is when some idiots follow them like sheep's and copy every opinion they have. Last time I checked a german review site (sometimes I read their forums just for the lulz) and they were complaining that SMG2 has a weak story and no voice acting. Sorry, I'm not pulling this out of my ass. They are really complaining about these things.
It's really hard to believe that someone actually wants a compelling story or whatever in their mario game but apparently these guys do. The funny thing then is, that this same guy did a review for Heavy Rain and you can all guess what he had to say. Yep, they really are a bunch of pathetic wannabe movie critics.
What do we learn from this? Don't trust them or these sites. They don't put their heart into a review and this is were sites like Destructoid really shines. You read the uncensored thoughts from someone who really cares about games.
Sick fetishization of Mr Rogers characters Batman! Glad a fellow fighter (scantily clad) could inspire tiger-emo-cut to do get off his ass.
I've always found Sagat's articles to be well delivered (edited?), full of intrigue and entertaining and I'm glad he didn't throw out his project over Youtube comment-based misanthropy.
@Jonathan Holmes
Fair enough. I'll assume that "fairly well known outlet" implies that it should have a staff large enough to have at least one person who likes 3rd person action games, whereas it sounds they assigned an RPG junky to it. And I'd agree, it is an illogical complaint to complain that a game relies too much on it's gameplay, instead of saying there wasn't enough advancing of the narrative. I guess they don't have much of an editor there either.
Again, I like the return the your roots on this video. I know you're trying different things with this series, still feeling out what works and what doesn't. Maybe its just as likely at this point that it becomes a show where you and Chad Concelmo grow the world's first Nintendo topiary garden. Still dig the stand-and-deliver style rant though.
That analogy you were making is exactly what happens in the sports world. For instance, they actually do take a football/boxing/etc guy to do MMA broadcasting. It is a truly unfortunate thing but I can see how the alternative would be unfeasible from a business perspective.
YEAH!!! It's good to see you back! Birdie was really funny, but Sagat is SUCH the perfect vehicle for delivering your message. That video was just freaking surreal, man! MEOW!!!
Where BirdIE merely butchered his vowels, rattled his chains, butchered his vowels, and sawed innumerable shits (which makes them all the more difficult to burgle, and left him far less than favorable in my sight); Sagat tackled the issues, righted the wrongs, and made a startling number of accurate observation in spite of his sensory organ deficiency. Them slamin' pancake boobs ain't hurtin' his case none, either.
P.S. In regards to Sagat's statement made at the 16th second of this video's fourth minute: AY-OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Late to the party on this one, but yeah man, return to awesome form with this one. As a fan of absurdity in general, just having Sagat in a normal house, acting normal with a normal voice, talking to his catgirl lady about video games, rationally, just makes smiles happen.
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12:20 PM on 08.04.2010
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SAGAT IS BACK.
Birdy was good too though.
There was this strange elitism and pride of being in on the ground floor of an "intelligent game" production right up to an abrupt turning point where PC gamers were so spurned that they bashed the graphics on the 360 before the release?
It's strange to watch a community disintergate like that and reveal themselves to be not that much different from the people they laughed at in the past? And really, were the graphics all that mattered to them in the end because of Microsoft's exclusive practices?
It's sad enough that the same people who thought it was going to do huge business have an entire thread dedicated to game's sales. Then again, it's also quite sad that I've stalked them out of a strange curiosity for a while now.
Turn based strategy meow!!
Oh, and your scar and eyepatch are mirror-flipped. You are Sagat's evil(er) double, right?
Care to divulge the site with that wrote the Alan Wake review? Regardless, I agree with your point. It does seem odd that you'd give someone a game to review and they don't even like the genre, but that just could be the reality of smaller sites for whom having a larger staff with a wide range of interests isn't economically viable.
On the other hand, a wide range of opinion can be helpful. That review could have been very helpful for someone who doesn't like 3rd person action games but was looking at Alan Wake for the presentation and narrative aspects. All 2 of them.
Or maybe I am just high on this show. Yeah, that is probably it.
*insert mandatory feline sound*
And I agree with you that having a wide range of opinions can be helpful to the reader. Still, to say any videogame "relies too much on gameplay" is pretty painful to read. They could have said that it "should have had more story elements" or something, but to say that a videogame is too much of a videogame is just nuts.
@ Xzyliac- I'm glad to hear what you think! I know this show isn't for everybody, and I appreciate you giving it a chance.
@ Guncannon- No script for this series, at least, not yet. We may change the format soon, go totally professional, and have awesome celebrities like Megan Fox and Ice-T on the show as guests. It'll really be so much better that way.
@ Stevil- Yeah, this video doesn't even begin to touch on all the weird, arbitrary standards that gamers sometimes have, and all the in fighting that they can cause. It's a huge topic that I think deserves talking about.
@ Tony- I think that's just because Sagat was facing left in the other videos. In this one, he's facing right.
I was surprised that the video nearly touched the same topic that Uncharted video does. Guess you really dislike what they are doing. I can't blame you. There are so many fucked up review sites out there with people who shit all over a good game just because of some stupid things like no good story, mediocre graphics and so on. Personally I can't stand guys like that. If they don't like their fucking job then they should move aside for someone who does! Worst thing is when some idiots follow them like sheep's and copy every opinion they have. Last time I checked a german review site (sometimes I read their forums just for the lulz) and they were complaining that SMG2 has a weak story and no voice acting. Sorry, I'm not pulling this out of my ass. They are really complaining about these things.
It's really hard to believe that someone actually wants a compelling story or whatever in their mario game but apparently these guys do. The funny thing then is, that this same guy did a review for Heavy Rain and you can all guess what he had to say. Yep, they really are a bunch of pathetic wannabe movie critics.
What do we learn from this? Don't trust them or these sites. They don't put their heart into a review and this is were sites like Destructoid really shines. You read the uncensored thoughts from someone who really cares about games.
I've always found Sagat's articles to be well delivered (edited?), full of intrigue and entertaining and I'm glad he didn't throw out his project over Youtube comment-based misanthropy.
Which is to say, a lot. But more than that too.
Fair enough. I'll assume that "fairly well known outlet" implies that it should have a staff large enough to have at least one person who likes 3rd person action games, whereas it sounds they assigned an RPG junky to it. And I'd agree, it is an illogical complaint to complain that a game relies too much on it's gameplay, instead of saying there wasn't enough advancing of the narrative. I guess they don't have much of an editor there either.
Again, I like the return the your roots on this video. I know you're trying different things with this series, still feeling out what works and what doesn't. Maybe its just as likely at this point that it becomes a show where you and Chad Concelmo grow the world's first Nintendo topiary garden. Still dig the stand-and-deliver style rant though.
"I think that's just because Sagat was facing left in the other videos. In this one, he's facing right."
Oh, I see what you did there...
P.S. In regards to Sagat's statement made at the 16th second of this video's fourth minute: AY-OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO