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Who cares how much potential any bloody system has? If your just going to claim it exists without putting it to use, then it's nothing more than just that, potential.
I guess when you're paid to make exclusives for PS3, you're also paid to suspend your belief that the game you're making could be done anywhere else and look like an idiot doing that.
Well I am still waiting for that game that 'uses the full potential' of the Ps 3 then I will get it.
Once Sucker Punch makes a decent game I'll start caring about their opinions.
You can use 100% of the PS3's power, that doesn't make the game good. It's not like inFamous even did anything that a million other games haven't done before on 360, so how exactly is this point even valid?
You can use 100% of the PS3's power, that doesn't make the game good. It's not like inFamous even did anything that a million other games haven't done before on 360, so how exactly is this point even valid?
I had a blast with the first inFamous and I'm looking forward to the sequel. That being said, I don't honestly care if "it can't be done on a 360", just finish the damn game and release it.
I'm a big PS3 fan (sony overall) and I think boasting like this is unnecessary. We all get that the PS3 is more powerful and can run more impressive games. Every one knows that so please, STOP THE BRAGGING SONY!! Just keep dropping these big games for us to play!!
LOL. Is that why the aliasing nearly poked my eyes out in the first Infamous?
I love you Sucker Punch, but why do this, why? *shakes head*
I love you Sucker Punch, but why do this, why? *shakes head*
I wonder how many of you who argue with this actually know anything about the technical details behind game development and the different consoles...
Not saying I believe what Sucker Punch is saying here, but I for damn sure wouldn't disagree with him just because some enraged fanboys says otherwise in the comment section :p
Sure, the PS3 is technically more powerful than the 360, but that doesn't matter if the developer isn't using the power efficiently. InFamous would for damn sure not be the game to prove that the PS3 is twice as powerful. Meh.. I'm just don't care, I just want to play the damn game, because I loved the first InFamous.
Not saying I believe what Sucker Punch is saying here, but I for damn sure wouldn't disagree with him just because some enraged fanboys says otherwise in the comment section :p
Sure, the PS3 is technically more powerful than the 360, but that doesn't matter if the developer isn't using the power efficiently. InFamous would for damn sure not be the game to prove that the PS3 is twice as powerful. Meh.. I'm just don't care, I just want to play the damn game, because I loved the first InFamous.
I like how he basically made his opinion worthless by saying "Everyone's comparing us to Uncharted 2, so if you think you can make Uncharted 2 on Xbox then OK maybe you can make Infamous 2 on Xbox." Does anyone think that Uncharted2 could not be done on a 360? Anyone?
@bickle:
Maybe I'm biased, but if it could be done, why haven't we seen it?
If you only think gameplay, it would have been no problem making Uncharted for 360, and that is the important part.
But I do think it wouldn't be possible to make the exact same game for both consoles. Uncharted 2 relied heavily on the SPUs, for animation, draw distance and everything. If they had optimized the engine for 360, they might have come close, but there would still be differences.
But if they tried, only a small percentage of gamers would be able to spot the difference, and it wouldn't affect the gameplay. So it's not even worth arguing about.
Maybe I'm biased, but if it could be done, why haven't we seen it?
If you only think gameplay, it would have been no problem making Uncharted for 360, and that is the important part.
But I do think it wouldn't be possible to make the exact same game for both consoles. Uncharted 2 relied heavily on the SPUs, for animation, draw distance and everything. If they had optimized the engine for 360, they might have come close, but there would still be differences.
But if they tried, only a small percentage of gamers would be able to spot the difference, and it wouldn't affect the gameplay. So it's not even worth arguing about.
People forget, Sony don't just rock up and say "here's $x,xxx,xxx.xx now make your game exclusive (often timed) and big us up" like Microsoft do. They supported sucker punch from the offset, Gave them manpower and experience and helped them. Which got this response.
Sony and ms work very differently in regard to exclusives. Ms BUY them and Sony HELP MAKE THEM.
Sony and ms work very differently in regard to exclusives. Ms BUY them and Sony HELP MAKE THEM.
Damn xbots have serious hate issues. Even a developer is claiming that they can do more with half of ps3's power than a 360 and automatically there has to be an attack on his integrity or validation.
Way to go guys. Make me wanna chuck the 360 for the number of retard fanboys it has more and more each day.
Way to go guys. Make me wanna chuck the 360 for the number of retard fanboys it has more and more each day.
I have both consoles so I don't care. If a game cant be done on the other system then it cant be done. Big deal.
If its better on the PS3, I'll buy it. If its better on the 360 then I'll buy it on that system.
If its better on the PS3, I'll buy it. If its better on the 360 then I'll buy it on that system.
I think people are taking this as more hostile/aggressive than it actually is. "Probably couldn't", "maybe it can", "we just don't feel", "do you think it could?" Nothing that was quoted in the article says "half a PS3 is better than a 360" to me, at least not in a matter-of-fact way.
@sexualchocolate
"People forget, Sony don't just rock up and say "here's $x,xxx,xxx.xx now make your game exclusive (often timed) and big us up" like Microsoft do."
Do you have proof for this claim?
"People forget, Sony don't just rock up and say "here's $x,xxx,xxx.xx now make your game exclusive (often timed) and big us up" like Microsoft do."
Do you have proof for this claim?
@Lenigod
I should have included a big ZING! at the end of my comment to signify that I was just trolling :)
Really, Infamous was for sure a fun game. It got a little boring towards the end once I had played the same type of mission for the 50th time, but that's the risk most open-world games run. Also, I thought the city was a bit bland, but again, that's the risk most disaster games run.
Overall, I had a good time causing general mayhem, and I'll for sure be renting the 2nd to try out the new powers.
I should have included a big ZING! at the end of my comment to signify that I was just trolling :)
Really, Infamous was for sure a fun game. It got a little boring towards the end once I had played the same type of mission for the 50th time, but that's the risk most open-world games run. Also, I thought the city was a bit bland, but again, that's the risk most disaster games run.
Overall, I had a good time causing general mayhem, and I'll for sure be renting the 2nd to try out the new powers.
Go ahead and call me a fanboy is you want. Too bad I have all consoles and could care less since they all have games.
I'm just sick of how saturated this site is with fanboys in general. For this in particular, why does it matter if the ps3 is more powerful? Is that even a question anymore? Who cares of we still get good, albeit not groundbreaking visually, games like reach and epic Mickey on other consoles?
I'm just sick of how saturated this site is with fanboys in general. For this in particular, why does it matter if the ps3 is more powerful? Is that even a question anymore? Who cares of we still get good, albeit not groundbreaking visually, games like reach and epic Mickey on other consoles?
I knew before the XBOX360 came out, looking at the specifications how LIMITED it would be. I am amazed it's lasted this long (well, for most of you sad 360 supporters, your system hasn't lasted XD ). When I finally got a new next-gen system, there was no doubt what I'd get. The PS3, the superior system.
There's no need to have both systems. To play Halo? Shit's lame. Gears of War? No... I have a PC anyways. Shadow Complex is the only exclusive that I'd want to play.
There's no need to have both systems. To play Halo? Shit's lame. Gears of War? No... I have a PC anyways. Shadow Complex is the only exclusive that I'd want to play.
People also forget that they're BOTH corporations that give no f***s about any of us outside of our ability to purchase their products.
@chocolate
The fact that Sony doesn't buck up on exclusives is a bad thing for fans.
Microsoft is buying out great games left and right, and making millions (which means more money diverted to exclusives), while Sony herp derps and relies on who is willing to develop for them. If Sony was more aggressive, and actually fought for exclusives, you'd be championing how much they care about fans above.
Also, they have done it before, just not nearly enough.
The fact that Sony doesn't buck up on exclusives is a bad thing for fans.
Microsoft is buying out great games left and right, and making millions (which means more money diverted to exclusives), while Sony herp derps and relies on who is willing to develop for them. If Sony was more aggressive, and actually fought for exclusives, you'd be championing how much they care about fans above.
Also, they have done it before, just not nearly enough.
Rule number one of Jimournalism:
If one person of a company makes a claim than immidiatly that represents the whole company therefor its acceptable to say that the whole company said it.
That includes the companies janitors too.
If one person of a company makes a claim than immidiatly that represents the whole company therefor its acceptable to say that the whole company said it.
That includes the companies janitors too.
*oops
360 has a 3-core processor
ps3 has a "6-core" + 1 that's locked away
so I guess it theoretically can do quite a bit more ...ignoring all the other architectural differences
360 has a 3-core processor
ps3 has a "6-core" + 1 that's locked away
so I guess it theoretically can do quite a bit more ...ignoring all the other architectural differences
I love stupid statements like this because I get to shoot back things like "well sure, but only if you like your game getting to the smaller fanbase." or "Good for you, I'm happy you like low sales"
Honestly though, If they aren't absolutely pushing the entire envelope of the systems capabilities (and are telling us they aren't which is a bad move in itself) then they aren't trying hard enough to bring players the best experience possible. In which case it doesn't matter what system your doing it for.
Honestly though, If they aren't absolutely pushing the entire envelope of the systems capabilities (and are telling us they aren't which is a bad move in itself) then they aren't trying hard enough to bring players the best experience possible. In which case it doesn't matter what system your doing it for.
Infamous was fun-at first. got bored however. i still liked it. @neroisonfire-it is funny-your comment that is-"xbots have serious hate issues" Isn't that statment fueled by hate-'xbots'. It makes you sound like just another sony fanboy. setyourselfonfire.
so by reading that article, you confirmed that his dramatized statement, was even more dramatized in your title.
thanks for wasting my time.
no one gives a damn about "console wars" or picking any over the other. its been what, 5 years? we just want fucking games. Post about games not the bullshit developers spew out of their shit holes.
Regardless of what system its on people who want it will buy it.
Im beginning to feel like these statements are prompted. why ask about what system its on instead of gameplay?
thanks for wasting my time.
no one gives a damn about "console wars" or picking any over the other. its been what, 5 years? we just want fucking games. Post about games not the bullshit developers spew out of their shit holes.
Regardless of what system its on people who want it will buy it.
Im beginning to feel like these statements are prompted. why ask about what system its on instead of gameplay?
I have both consoles, I like both consoles too. I have one question for Sucker Punch: Why are so many PS3 Exclusives only supporting 720p resolutions ? I bought a 1080p HDTV for games and Blu-Ray movies, where can I get 1080p games ?
it is getting hard to wade through the comments-what happend to just being gamers-not a fanyboy-i swear people act like they own the company or get a % from sales.
The Cell is better than pretty much all but the best PC CPUs, if Sony had a little foresight and included a better GPU then it would be trumping everything out there. Instead they decided to use a crappy one to show what the cell could accomplish on its own.
I have all the consoles too, yet I'm labeled a fanboy for calling out bullshit.
What's your point, Nero?
My point is inFamous wasn't impressive from a technical standpoint or a gameplay standpoint. For that matter, I fail to see the hype behind Uncharted 2, the game itself is good, but saying it can't be done anywhere else is just stupid. You claim 360 has so many fanboys, yet most of us are just calling out the crap spewed by Sony developers on a per-exclusive basis.
Do you see MS developers claiming every exclusive can't be done on PS3? MS doesn't care, people either buy the games or they don't. Sony devs feel it necessary to prove themselves through statements and graphical or hardware specs instead of gameplay.
Does PS3 have more power? Of course, everyone knows that by now. What matters is how you use that power, and so far very little on PS3 has used it in a unique way. I'm not saying PS3 is lacking in good games, just wondering why every Sony dev seems to think their game is changing the world as we know it because it's on the PS3.
What's your point, Nero?
My point is inFamous wasn't impressive from a technical standpoint or a gameplay standpoint. For that matter, I fail to see the hype behind Uncharted 2, the game itself is good, but saying it can't be done anywhere else is just stupid. You claim 360 has so many fanboys, yet most of us are just calling out the crap spewed by Sony developers on a per-exclusive basis.
Do you see MS developers claiming every exclusive can't be done on PS3? MS doesn't care, people either buy the games or they don't. Sony devs feel it necessary to prove themselves through statements and graphical or hardware specs instead of gameplay.
Does PS3 have more power? Of course, everyone knows that by now. What matters is how you use that power, and so far very little on PS3 has used it in a unique way. I'm not saying PS3 is lacking in good games, just wondering why every Sony dev seems to think their game is changing the world as we know it because it's on the PS3.
@meatwad, people hate the term ps3 fanboy just as much as xbot. Who cares? Well pretty much the fanboys are the ones who care.
Get over it man.
Get over it man.
All that power. Of course that's part of the problem, isn't it?
All that screen tearing and frame rate drops because it thinks it can do a million things at once and spazzes out.
@sexual chocolate
If you think Sony don't deal with game developers in the same way as Microsoft then you are deluded. Sucker punch will obviously make these claims...not becauee they are true but because it's a game they spend time making for a single brand of consoles. I bet you every last pound in my wallet (£27) that they would say the exact same thing if they were making this game for the 360.
All that screen tearing and frame rate drops because it thinks it can do a million things at once and spazzes out.
@sexual chocolate
If you think Sony don't deal with game developers in the same way as Microsoft then you are deluded. Sucker punch will obviously make these claims...not becauee they are true but because it's a game they spend time making for a single brand of consoles. I bet you every last pound in my wallet (£27) that they would say the exact same thing if they were making this game for the 360.
So Sucker Punch is admitting that they half-assed inFamous? Wow, way to go? They are correct in that the XBox 360 can't handle inFamous or inFamous 2, but the reasons are of a legal nature and have nothing to do with "horsepower" (how many horses it takes to render a polygon on a computer display is anybody's guess).
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