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And thus, on this day, not a single of a well deserved fuck, was given. Because there are OTHER WAYS to get this game. :L
While a future where steam doesn't carry EA games meshes quite nicely with my ongoing boycott of EA games. I do feel this bickering between them ultimately screws over customers :(
Tho if the shoe was on the other food I have no doubt that EA would be the one pushing valve to conform to their digital distro scheme.
Sounds like they really both need a time out, but I'll be sticking with Valve..... err sorry to see you go EA, I guess?
Tho if the shoe was on the other food I have no doubt that EA would be the one pushing valve to conform to their digital distro scheme.
Sounds like they really both need a time out, but I'll be sticking with Valve..... err sorry to see you go EA, I guess?
Doesn't Mass Effect 2 have an in-game store for it's DLC as well? If I'm not mistaken, they'd have to remove that too if Dragon Age 2 was removed for the same reason.
How many does this make? They can only do this so many times while still claiming that it has nothing to do with Origin.
If this IS Origin related, I cannot think of a more back-assward way for EA to try and establish it. They may obtain a user base, but most of them will be resentful! The way to be number one is to offer a better product (generally). And EA was just starting to make strides too...
Yeah, if this was EA's attempt at getting into DD, they're digging their own graves.
Sure, Steam isn't exactly playing nice, but Valve has built up too much love and EA too little for me to toss even an ounce of blame towards Valve.
I mean, they just helped out The IndieStone along with Desura and FilePlanet to get a great indie game some stability. And there is no real benefit from Valve at all except the future availability of the title on Steam. I don't see EA doing that. Nope. They just want to add online passes to their stuff and call the PC modding community essentially incapable of understanding the new Frostbite engine.
Sure, Steam isn't exactly playing nice, but Valve has built up too much love and EA too little for me to toss even an ounce of blame towards Valve.
I mean, they just helped out The IndieStone along with Desura and FilePlanet to get a great indie game some stability. And there is no real benefit from Valve at all except the future availability of the title on Steam. I don't see EA doing that. Nope. They just want to add online passes to their stuff and call the PC modding community essentially incapable of understanding the new Frostbite engine.
however this does mean you guys might want to get your EA titles before origin takes it all.....do it now while you can.
Seems like EA and Value are not getting along these days, Valve may be getting back at them for dropping Battle Field 3.
Why do you guys think it's ok for Valve to have an exclusivity clause in their terms of service, but you're all pissed off at EA for it? How does that make any sense at all?
Screw origin.
@Tristix - If EA weren't doing all this finagling to force people into their stores, I bet no one would care, but they're trying to use their leverage to yank customers (EA customers, btw) from Steam into their own burgeoning, flawed service, so they get a bigger slice of the pie.
Fuck that, and fuck Origin.
@Tristix - If EA weren't doing all this finagling to force people into their stores, I bet no one would care, but they're trying to use their leverage to yank customers (EA customers, btw) from Steam into their own burgeoning, flawed service, so they get a bigger slice of the pie.
Fuck that, and fuck Origin.
Hell no. No no no no no. I was planning to get this in the future, when the price dropped, with the DLC packs. Now, I probably won't be able to. It's enough that I had to ask a US friend to buy me the DA:O Ultimate Edition because EA was too stuck up to offer it in Steam's Israeli region, but now I'm out of luck with DA2? UGH!
My thoughts of EA are going even further than hate now. With all the crap they've been giving me personally for years, then the Crysis 2 fiasco, and now this?
@Tristix: Why exactly do you think they have an exclusivity clause? Because oh-so-honest EA said so? Just look at most Steam games. They're offered in more places, especially other digital distribution stores.
My thoughts of EA are going even further than hate now. With all the crap they've been giving me personally for years, then the Crysis 2 fiasco, and now this?
@Tristix: Why exactly do you think they have an exclusivity clause? Because oh-so-honest EA said so? Just look at most Steam games. They're offered in more places, especially other digital distribution stores.
@Tristix: Actually, even Steamworks games are sold in other digital distribution stores! And sometimes much cheaper than on Steam! Just look at Deus Ex: Human Revolution, for example. I got a pre-order of that game from GreenManGaming for $28.80 and it even activates on Steam and behaves like a full Steam-bought copy.
And then Riccitiello came out of nowhere uttering statements as well, oh man, Dv8thwonder you are right, shit just got real indeed.
Valve had no problems with other Digital Distribution services providing EA games.
What's in Valve's TOS anyway?
What's in Valve's TOS anyway?
It was a mediocre game anyway. Bioware games are slowly going down the shitter ever since EA bought them.
I'm pretty sure Origins used an in-game store interface as well with no problem. I'm fairly sure there's other garbage EA tried to stick end users with in here somewhere.
@Cynical Gamer,
"It was a mediocre game anyway. Bioware games are slowly going down the shitter ever since EA bought them."
Not sure you can really come to that conclusion based off of one bad video game. You have too little info to find a pattern at this point. If TOR and ME3 turn out to be turds then you could conduct such a survey.
"It was a mediocre game anyway. Bioware games are slowly going down the shitter ever since EA bought them."
Not sure you can really come to that conclusion based off of one bad video game. You have too little info to find a pattern at this point. If TOR and ME3 turn out to be turds then you could conduct such a survey.
DA2 was the old bad apple of the bunch, imo. ME2 had it's shortcomings,though like all Bioware games. ( no grenades, armor customization wasn't as deep as ME1, ammo devolution; really Hudson????? )
I want some accounts on those who played the game. Did the game sucks bad? If so why but make it short and sweet.
I'm going to go ahead and accept the fact that EA games will stop appearing on or being supported by Steam. I guess I'll just buy their games retail from now on. Yeah, you still gonna have to pay for them logistics motherfuckas! Eat it!
Oh no its the the end of the world and its all EA's fault and not Valve is innocent. Yeah right there is more to this story then we know. Valve refuses to say why and only EA has issued a reason why.
Sounds like Valve is the problem here not EA. Competition is good and I would love steam to lose some of there market share of the download business.
Sounds like Valve is the problem here not EA. Competition is good and I would love steam to lose some of there market share of the download business.
@Lazyman
People bitch about Steam having too much control over the digital market, but if other DD services came in and offered similar -or god forbid... better!- services then they wouldn't be sitting so pretty at the top right now. If other companies want to compete they need to actually fucking COMPETE and not just say "Hey guys! Look, we sell stuff! No, your current services gots all you wants but we are here just in case you want to give us money!" and then run away with their tale tucked between their legs when everyone ignores them.
People bitch about Steam having too much control over the digital market, but if other DD services came in and offered similar -or god forbid... better!- services then they wouldn't be sitting so pretty at the top right now. If other companies want to compete they need to actually fucking COMPETE and not just say "Hey guys! Look, we sell stuff! No, your current services gots all you wants but we are here just in case you want to give us money!" and then run away with their tale tucked between their legs when everyone ignores them.
I have it on my PS3, so no harm done, but it still irks me that this game is still available on other DD platforms but people still think EA is on the attack.
Wouldn't they make all of their games Origin exclusive then? I mean Dragon Age II is 30 bucks on GG right now. Wouldn't EA want to get rid of the game on that website too?
You'd have to register the game on Origin as well whether you buy it from EA or not, just like you do with GFWL games. So it must be something contractual between EA and Valve, like the aforementioned In Game Store.
Maybe EA isn't selling enough hats?
Wouldn't they make all of their games Origin exclusive then? I mean Dragon Age II is 30 bucks on GG right now. Wouldn't EA want to get rid of the game on that website too?
You'd have to register the game on Origin as well whether you buy it from EA or not, just like you do with GFWL games. So it must be something contractual between EA and Valve, like the aforementioned In Game Store.
Maybe EA isn't selling enough hats?
To people saying that Valve and Steam are hurting consumers just as much as EA with the Origin war...That's just not true. EA pushed first, and they started this whole debacle.
Ahahahahahaha Alright Alright Epic wins for now, though I thought you added the 'Because there are OTHER WAYS to get this game. :L' As a dodge to avoid the fire
question: does games taken out of steam are still available for people who bought them earlier? i'm seriously thinking about re-downloading all my Steam games and putting them on external HDD.
i'm guessing EA did this on purpose to get it off Steam.
i'm guessing EA did this on purpose to get it off Steam.
From what I hear the game sucked balls anyways.
I keep hearing about the TOS agreement that Steam has for DLC content. I can't honestly say I blame them for removing the games. Of course most people would have bought the Steam version anyways and not the version sold by the company which wouldn't work anyways because usually a game bought on Steam needs its DLC bought on Steam.
In the end though its probably EA's fault, I mean they have only been doing business with valve for how long? Surely some dumbass at EA read Steam's TOS agreement sometime in that time period. Unless this is something new with the TOS.
I keep hearing about the TOS agreement that Steam has for DLC content. I can't honestly say I blame them for removing the games. Of course most people would have bought the Steam version anyways and not the version sold by the company which wouldn't work anyways because usually a game bought on Steam needs its DLC bought on Steam.
In the end though its probably EA's fault, I mean they have only been doing business with valve for how long? Surely some dumbass at EA read Steam's TOS agreement sometime in that time period. Unless this is something new with the TOS.
@Spaz
Supposedly it is something new. According to EA something changed AFTER they released Crysis 2 that would have fucked them over if they left the game on there, so they pulled it. To me, that would most definitely make it Valve's fault.
If you make friends with someone due to a mutual love of kittens and they suddenly demand that you give them some of your kittens or they will seek legal rights to claim and devour all of your kittens, you take your fucking kittens and run, buddy!
Not saying that's how this happened. I'm not sure anyone really knows the details besides people within the two companies. But Gabe Newell does look like he could woof down a greedy helping of kittens.
Supposedly it is something new. According to EA something changed AFTER they released Crysis 2 that would have fucked them over if they left the game on there, so they pulled it. To me, that would most definitely make it Valve's fault.
If you make friends with someone due to a mutual love of kittens and they suddenly demand that you give them some of your kittens or they will seek legal rights to claim and devour all of your kittens, you take your fucking kittens and run, buddy!
Not saying that's how this happened. I'm not sure anyone really knows the details besides people within the two companies. But Gabe Newell does look like he could woof down a greedy helping of kittens.
It's kind of funny that Alice:MR is still up. Maybe it'd be different if it was a bigger title, or they'll yank it once they get enough money from Steam sales.
EA is mad they can't be in control, they always have, they had a problem with xbox live, and now they have one with steam. As far as I'm concerned Valve is the steward of the PC platform, I don't want to have 50 logins for my library of PC games, sorry I just don't. None of us know the backroom dealings of Steam, and frankly I don't want to know as long as I get my games. I actually like EA's titles, but as they keep pulling games from my favorite DD platform it is really starting to grind my gears. Get your head out of your ass EA, no one likes origin, and I know I will never buy a game off of it, if you are going to keep pulling this shit, I will start going retail, or just skipping your titles all together.
They should just remove all of EA's games until they get all their game products in line. Who the hell really wants to use Origin as an online gaming distributor, it offers nothing even comparable to Steam. EA is just trying to cut out Steam so that they can make more money, but it's going to seriously back fire.
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