Well to counter that point, if Last Remnant is a clusterfuck on the 360, think of what its going to be on the "TBA" release for PS3 which is a system notorious with U3 issues.

^ I agree^. Also does this have to do the fact its like develeping for a lower end PC?

Eh, as long as they provide the games, I could care less.

They really should've went with something other than the UE3.

Lol thats rich, if he is such a fanboy you'd think Last Remnant wouldnt have been a flaming piece of crap. Coming to PS3 or not means nothing, if the 360 was the launch console for the title its obvious that's the version that's supposed to "shine", last a checked "crap" isn't shiny.

I'm sure working with the Unreal Engine was a dream for Last Remnant, because they didn't bother to animate anything but the mouths in the cutscenes! If that's the best they can do, I suggest they take heavy notes from Lost Odyssey and try again.

hate hate hate hate hate . . .

Hmm, i wonder what Sony's response to this will be? Oh I know maybe spending MORE money on Home instead of getting exclusive JRPG's. You see guys, The Sony execs know what there doing!

Now they known how bad PS3 was slapped together. I just hope they'll consider more 360 stuff.

How's about that wonderful Front Mission Online on 360, Sqaure?

I love how they are so excited to reach all these fans on different systems. Too bad nobody is buying these games on the 360. Last Remnant has sold about 300,000 copies, and 130,000 were sold in Japan, where the game is just about dead in terms of sales. Same here in America, except they only managed 90,000 copies.

When will they realize that the 360 doesn't have a real JRPG fanbase? Barely anyone owns it in Japan, and the people who do own it in America obviously don't like JRPGs all that much. Note that the system's best sellers are shooters.....

Can't wait to see FF13 for 360 on the bargain shelf within 2 months while the PS3 version still goes for 60 bucks....So I can buy it for cheap!

Maybe SE should call up EPIC. They seems to be able to put UT3 on the PS3 without any issue.

Last Remnant sucked, so Xbox 360 can have it for all I care. The only Square game I'm really looking forward to is Versus XIII, because it's from the Kingdom Hearts team. Square is a bust this generation.

Wait, wait, wait! They're using the Unreal Engine. And they can't get it to work right on PS3.

Surely all the low-level code is done for them, and all that's required is a change to the logic and UI?? Of course you need to add your own assets (sound, textures, models), but the engine should have to worry about the hardware. Maybe Epic aren't being as helpful as they could be. Though they did a bag-up job on UT3, Mods and all.

Sounds like a cop-out. And I don't want to troll, but their last few games have been lacking a certain magic.

Perhaps they're having trouble evolving from the traditional JRPG format. Small areas, random encounters, generic story lines, mixed with CD quality sound and great FMVs... but we've come a long way since FFVII.

Here's hoping they'll port FFvsXIII over to 360 as well so I can continue not having to buy a PS3 as well.

Guess you really can't teach an old dog new tricks. Especially one that's not willing to learn.

His next project should be for PS2, then maybe we can get some quality RPGs. Their next-gen outing has left much to be desired!

I don't think it's any secret that it's easier to develop for the 360, but it doesn't even matter. The Last Remnant bombed.

yeah, sony is not looking at exclusive jrpg's but it still has valkyrie chronicles by sega and the coming white knight story by level 5. great fucking games! not shitty half-assed square enix games. and it seems if white knight story is successful, level 5 will go sony exclusive. yeah, they seem to fucking forget about the shitty games going on the 360 and just go for the gold. AND versus and agito still seem to remain that exclusive ps3 title, for now.

agreed...damn square enix! Clearly they shouldn't have used the U3 engine since its known not to be very ps3 friendly. But fuck square-enix anyway they haven't put out a game i truly enjoyed since final fantasy 7 and to a lesser degree 10, and valkyrie profile 2(and if they make an exclusive for 360 i'll forsake them for good). Point is they were all ps2 games and its looking like they've already passed their peak. I'll be looking to other companies for my RPG fix from now on (sure as hell not Namco the new tales games are shit too)

What the fuck is everyone talking about? UE3 is pretty PS3 friendly. The PS3 is much more well built than the 360(i.e. A LOT less hardware failure). The 360 is just easy to develop for because it's basically a PC with directx 9 on it.

One thing that amuses the hell out of me is that all the sony/squeenix fanboy were gushing over how awesome FFXIII was gonna be, spanking to the screenshots. Then, after they recover from the Xbox 360 announcement (a friend of mine's girlfriend actually cried about it, how sad is that?) they reached for the next best hope: FFXIII Versus and started talking about how bad the Core game was going to suck.

"Oh FFXIII always looked like crap anyway, I'm only interested in Versus"

Wow, sad people, really sad

You know, Sony fanboys, so many developers have said that the 360 is more developer-friendly that, don't you think, maybe, possibly, it could actually be true? I'm just saying.

It's also easier to pull down my pants and take a shit right here on the floor than it would be to walk a few steps to the bathroom and do it the right way. Easy, never in the life of the word easy, has equaled better. It's really the anti ps3 fan boys that are looking quite idiotic.

When you are using tools to build something,it usually helps to have easier to use tools.

You don't use Paint to make a digital painting,you use Photoshop.

That is when easier=better.

@Hobgoblin
You completely missed the point I was trying to make. I was addressing something altogether different.

@Hobgoblin
No, you didn't. I wasn't addressing the quality of the games, or even anyone's argument in the comments. I didn't read the comments before posting. I was simply referring to Sony fanboys who, on countless previous posts, always scoffed at developers talking about how difficult the PS3 is to design for. I was simply saying, "Hey, here's yet another one. Do you maybe believe NOW that it's true?"

The quality of their game isn't relevant. The argument is the volume of the claims, not the quality of the games attached to them. Whether a game turns out well or doesn't, shouldn't have much bearing on how difficult it is to develop for. The results change, the claims stay the same.

@Lemon
"You don't use Paint to make a digital painting,you use Photoshop. That is when easier=better."

I think you got that backward. Paint is easier to use, Photoshop is orders of magnitude more complex.

I'm not sure where this "360 is more like a PC" argument has come from. The 2 main differences between 360 and PS3 are the split in Ram (360 has 512mb of main ram, PS3 has 256 of main, 256 of graphics ram); PS3 core is multi core.

Multi-threading and dividing assets (between HD, ram, gram) for faster access times is a staple of PC Games development. 360 is easier because it's simpler: just store everything in main ram when you need it, no need to multithread or worry about memory allocation.

It's no coincidence that we've heard the majority of complaints of the PS3s complexity from Console-centred developers.