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Yeah, comparing console to mobile is like comparing apples to oranges. It's six guys vs. six hundred guys.
Is this actually from Square Enix, or is it Capcom or SEGA pretending to be SE? Ridiculous IMO!
Social gaming, browser gaming, casual gaming all flourish because they are ways to make a quick buck with little resources. Has nothing to do with Consoles being around "too long". I feel like it's too early for new consoles personally, I still don't think the current generation has reached its potential.
Oh, and BTW, We will go through 2 more console generations before FINAL FANTASY VERSUS XIII IS RELEASED!
Social gaming, browser gaming, casual gaming all flourish because they are ways to make a quick buck with little resources. Has nothing to do with Consoles being around "too long". I feel like it's too early for new consoles personally, I still don't think the current generation has reached its potential.
Oh, and BTW, We will go through 2 more console generations before FINAL FANTASY VERSUS XIII IS RELEASED!
Sounds like someone from Squeenix is finally putting the blame of why they don't release KH3 or Versus 13 exactly where it belongs. Everywhere but Squeenix.
"This console generation is too long!" Says the company who has released a grand total of 1 game of it's big RPG series on a home console this entire generation. A generation that, I will remind you, IS SEVEN YEARS OLD.
Note: I'm not counting 13-2, because that's essentially an expansion pack.
Note: I'm not counting 13-2, because that's essentially an expansion pack.
Mobile games are barely even games, the ONLY reason they are hot right now is because its the latest fad and dirt cheap in this shit economy. Honestly I don't even consider them games, maybe children do.
Sorry for double posting, but to put that in perspective in terms of other series this generation:
Mass Effect: 3 games
Dragon Age: 2 games
Bioshock: 2 games, with another one upcoming
Assassin's Creed: 3 games, with another one upcoming
Fallout: 2 games
Call of Duty: By the end of this year, 6 games
Gears of War: 3 games
Final Fantasy is older than all of these series. Square Enix has been around since the mid 1980s. They should have the capital to keep up with at LEAST Gears of War. But no. We've gotten one Final Fantasy main title, a spin-off, and an MMORPG that was so bad Square had to release an apology to the fans for lack of quality.
Mass Effect: 3 games
Dragon Age: 2 games
Bioshock: 2 games, with another one upcoming
Assassin's Creed: 3 games, with another one upcoming
Fallout: 2 games
Call of Duty: By the end of this year, 6 games
Gears of War: 3 games
Final Fantasy is older than all of these series. Square Enix has been around since the mid 1980s. They should have the capital to keep up with at LEAST Gears of War. But no. We've gotten one Final Fantasy main title, a spin-off, and an MMORPG that was so bad Square had to release an apology to the fans for lack of quality.
The last time Square Enix made, said or did anything of consequence, it was Tomb Raider III for the original Playstation.
Middle class families who don't have $400-$600 to shell out for a new gen of consoles every 4 years aren't complaining...in fact they're buying games and getting ready to buy the next gen when it debuts in 2014.
Of course, middle class families typically don't buy Square Enix games, because they don't have the money to treat $60 like a tampon.
Middle class families who don't have $400-$600 to shell out for a new gen of consoles every 4 years aren't complaining...in fact they're buying games and getting ready to buy the next gen when it debuts in 2014.
Of course, middle class families typically don't buy Square Enix games, because they don't have the money to treat $60 like a tampon.
Really ignorant statement, imo. Browsers & Mobile are far more accessible to the common people - they should have adapted. Not our fault they did not.
This from a company that works on RPGs for so long that it can only release one or two per console??? No wonder SE has been tanking lately.
the problem with this analogy is, the mobile platform isn't competing with consoles. my mom plays mobile games, and she also had a DS. she'd never really expressed any interest in gaming at all before that (except a minor fascination with duck hunt when I was very little.)
Mobile platform is hot with casuals. its not occupying the same space as consoles.
Mobile platform is hot with casuals. its not occupying the same space as consoles.
Thats one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. And imagine that, it comes from some working at square, and is about how a long cycle of some sort, ruins everything (you'd think thatsort of thing would helpt them -they'ed be able to get a single game out of developement from start to end...).
But the problem isn't the console cycle, its the developers. Fact is that developers are fickle and think they need the next big thing constantly coming at them to be inventive. All this shows is that their magic lies in the stream of technology and not in their imagination, which is pretty pathetic and makes me very sad.
Theres developers (and gosh, a lot of them are making games on iOS and other mobile platforms) who are doing a lot more with FAR less, these days and making a huge profits. Its not because of the platform their playing to, its because of the format they're playing to. Quick thoughtless games produce fast, thoughtless, money. Even the games with tons of thought behind them are at such a price point, with such a low level of development costs, that people don't have to think before they plunge, unlike console games where many wait for a sale or price drop before they buy.
But that's not only a "console" problem, its one at the heart of developers and publishers, too -- Its a matter of greed in proportion to the time put in and cost of development. Its the fact that the business of the video game industry is absolute shit in the first place, not that a platform has been around for far too long. Other platforms emerged because people looked down at their phones and said "hey, I'm a moron, I carry my phone with me all day, why not make games for it?", Its a natural progression, but not one that you can blame consoles for, or strike them out completely, because of.
So I'm not surprised one bit someone from Square would say this, they've made it pretty clear they don't have a clue how to do/grow with the business, and haven't for most of the decade. Their heads are still collectively up their asses on the matter.
But the problem isn't the console cycle, its the developers. Fact is that developers are fickle and think they need the next big thing constantly coming at them to be inventive. All this shows is that their magic lies in the stream of technology and not in their imagination, which is pretty pathetic and makes me very sad.
Theres developers (and gosh, a lot of them are making games on iOS and other mobile platforms) who are doing a lot more with FAR less, these days and making a huge profits. Its not because of the platform their playing to, its because of the format they're playing to. Quick thoughtless games produce fast, thoughtless, money. Even the games with tons of thought behind them are at such a price point, with such a low level of development costs, that people don't have to think before they plunge, unlike console games where many wait for a sale or price drop before they buy.
But that's not only a "console" problem, its one at the heart of developers and publishers, too -- Its a matter of greed in proportion to the time put in and cost of development. Its the fact that the business of the video game industry is absolute shit in the first place, not that a platform has been around for far too long. Other platforms emerged because people looked down at their phones and said "hey, I'm a moron, I carry my phone with me all day, why not make games for it?", Its a natural progression, but not one that you can blame consoles for, or strike them out completely, because of.
So I'm not surprised one bit someone from Square would say this, they've made it pretty clear they don't have a clue how to do/grow with the business, and haven't for most of the decade. Their heads are still collectively up their asses on the matter.
In the end pc's give a lot more freedom to developers and consumers as console makers can make their own silly requirements (read limiting patches, not allowing free content, mod support among other things. this should really make the pc platform of choice if profits are equal and this really helps pc win against console from the dev side of things.
I think (just what I think), he may mean that it was a bad idea to not introduce it earlier and have all the developers put all their money and time towards the next generation, stopping them from jumping towards the mobile platform as they would have invested heavy money in the next gen. But, now everyone has made the jump, they wont want to come back, as they now know the money they can earn. Outside of maybe that, I agree, they had a pre-built audience and it was inevitable.
Yeah the guys who have made millions off this industry know nothing about it. The internet user's know what's up though. Look at iOS games those are doing shit, COD can't sell a single copy, Diablo 3 is the biggest bomb ever, nobody buys EA games and free to play is a terrible model that's making no one money.
I actually think it's every internet users job to be completely wrong about society.
I actually think it's every internet users job to be completely wrong about society.
If their proposed business models for their next consoles are any indication (game stopping ads for Playstation, overpriced subscription service contracts for Xbox) then I'd be more inclined to believe his point of view.
So having more time to produce games like FFXIII-2 and FFXIII-3 with your pre-existing engine is a bad thing, and you'd rather be paying to make a new engine from scratch like you always do just to lose another large share of your audience because you didn't have enough time to develop your products properly?
Yeah, seems legit...
Yeah, seems legit...
I'm dreading the next gen. Honestly. We've reached graphical nutjobs anyway, so games really really can't LOOK much better, but they can get even more heinously expensive, which they will, and we'll have an industry in an even worse state then it currently is.
PS2 for life.
PS2 for life.
Nonsense. And ironical coming from a company which still haven't released a launch date for FF Versus XIII...
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