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I like the sound of it. I still refer to them as Square anyway, and maybe they're listening to what people have been saying. And El Conrado, I'm pretty sure the Enix franchises will keep going. I am of course basing this on nothing at all.
I hope this is true! I still call them "Square", and "Squaresoft", growing up as a fan of their classics. I hate the term "Squeenix" :-(
It's also a bit of a shame "Enix" has their name plastered over things like the new Chrono Trigger DS remake, and the like. They didn't even develop the early Dragon Quest games - they just published them!
It's also a bit of a shame "Enix" has their name plastered over things like the new Chrono Trigger DS remake, and the like. They didn't even develop the early Dragon Quest games - they just published them!
@Jack Fear
Well, appart from DragonQuest, what Enix franchises have they worked on lately?
They had such a huge selection of games on the 16bit era. Now they're kind of, gone.
Well, appart from DragonQuest, what Enix franchises have they worked on lately?
They had such a huge selection of games on the 16bit era. Now they're kind of, gone.
Good news? Maybe final fantasy will be Final Fantasy again, and the same for Star Ocean? I never felt like any of both companies needed the other one anyway...
And, oh, what about front mission... WIll it go back to being Front Mission?
I have high hopes, they'll probably be crushed anyway...
And, oh, what about front mission... WIll it go back to being Front Mission?
I have high hopes, they'll probably be crushed anyway...
Mmmm front mission. I want a real one, not that evolved bullshit (which if it had worked good, would have been a nice spinoff). Do it. Do it naow! Get to tha choppa!
If they can stop hiring that sexist pig Motomu Toriyama to write half their scripts maybe I'd start giving the company the time of day again.
First there was Square, then SquareEnix, then they started trying too much and I can't even remember the last remarkable "original" (no remakes, please) game I've played. I hope they go back to their origins with this rebranding and start making great games again.
that Squaresoft logo reminds me of a time when the company made not-shitty games.
like someone else said, changing the name isn't gonna get your talent back
like someone else said, changing the name isn't gonna get your talent back
@El Conrado,
Nothing too recent comes to mind, but last year (maybe the year before last) they had Star Ocean 4 and Valkyrie Profile: Covenant of the Plume.
Nothing too recent comes to mind, but last year (maybe the year before last) they had Star Ocean 4 and Valkyrie Profile: Covenant of the Plume.
Don't blame them for dumping the company name associated with their decline in quality. And it makes sense, considering that ports of the old Square games are still a big chunk of their sales. Let's hope they are changing up more than just the name though!
Remember 10-15 years ago when Square took several artsy-fartsy breaks with watercolor hued games with weird battle systems? Saga Frontier, Legend of Mana, Threads of Fate, Saga Frontier 2, all in-between their blockbusters of Final Fantasies VII-X? They experimented, didn't make perfect games, but they took chances and wrote decent stories back then. We even had one of those blockbusters, Chrono Cross, take those same art and gameplay risks to widely varying degrees of success.
And now the only thing of note Square has released these days even close to that development approach was The World Ends With You. In 2007. Square is simply PA-THETIC.
And now the only thing of note Square has released these days even close to that development approach was The World Ends With You. In 2007. Square is simply PA-THETIC.
@ootmians ... Wait a minute, Enix always produced great games. Like Valyrie Profile, ActRaiser, Star Ocean, Dragon Warrior, Grandia II... Okay, for some, that's thanks to Tri-Ace more than anything... But still!
@ootmians ... Wait a minute, Enix always produced great games. Like Valyrie Profile, ActRaiser, Star Ocean, Dragon Warrior, Grandia II... Okay, for some, that's thanks to Tri-Ace more than anything... But still!
@ootmians ... Wait a minute, Enix always produced great games. Like Valyrie Profile, ActRaiser, Star Ocean, Dragon Warrior, Grandia II... Okay, for some, that's thanks to Tri-Ace more than anything... But still!
First off, I don't think Square bought Enix. They merged after both companies had some financial troubles. As it is, the Square side only got 89% of the value of their original shares when they merged whereas Enix employees got 100%. If anything I have read that Enix bought Square. I don't mean to be a whiny internet troll but I'm sick of people blaming Enix for the decline of the quality of Square's games. I don't say that JUST because I'm a DQ fan. Enix had some amazing games on the SNES. All five of the games they made with Quintet were at least decent (I didn't like Actraiser 2 as much as the original). Paladin's Quest, while weird was still a fun game. They also made 7th Saga and EVO Search for Eden. That game was awesome! I keep hearing great things about Mischief Makers, also an Enix game.
Square was on the decline well before the merger. Legend of Mana wasn't liked as much as Secret of Mana or the Japanese exclusive Seiken Densetsu 3 (from the general consensus I've gathered. I hated Legend of Mana). The Final Fantasy series started to decline. What was infuriating about the merger was that most of Enix's franchises disappeared, save DQ, Star Ocean and to a lesser extent, Valkyrie Profile. Don't blame Enix for Square's decline, and as an Enix fan it would be sad to hear that they drop that name.
PS: I hate it when people call Square Enix just "Square." I wrote a c-blog about that years ago
Square was on the decline well before the merger. Legend of Mana wasn't liked as much as Secret of Mana or the Japanese exclusive Seiken Densetsu 3 (from the general consensus I've gathered. I hated Legend of Mana). The Final Fantasy series started to decline. What was infuriating about the merger was that most of Enix's franchises disappeared, save DQ, Star Ocean and to a lesser extent, Valkyrie Profile. Don't blame Enix for Square's decline, and as an Enix fan it would be sad to hear that they drop that name.
PS: I hate it when people call Square Enix just "Square." I wrote a c-blog about that years ago
Honestly I wouldn't be surprised for a few reasons.
First would be what Dale said, they're more then just Square and Enix now.
Second, no one really calls them by any semblance of their full name unless its to call them "Squeenix", which is an ugly nickname that I can't imagine they like. Also the acronym SE can be construed as Sony Entertainment, which is too much overlap I'd suppose.
And finally theres would be a much deeper reason.. Now, I'm positive this isn't going to be a popular thought with a lot of people but think about it, all of their problems started at or around the time they officially merged with Enix in 2003. Of course, picking up certain games (mostly Dragon Quest) has been great for them, but otherwise it just feels like everything's been "meh" at best since they've fused the names together. People kinda still do speak higher of "just Square" they they do Square Enix, so I'd say re-branding is an attempt to maybe purge those ill thoughts and go back to basics for the company.
I hate to see Enix finally go (or really just fade out), but I can't say I'm shocked Square would do this.
First would be what Dale said, they're more then just Square and Enix now.
Second, no one really calls them by any semblance of their full name unless its to call them "Squeenix", which is an ugly nickname that I can't imagine they like. Also the acronym SE can be construed as Sony Entertainment, which is too much overlap I'd suppose.
And finally theres would be a much deeper reason.. Now, I'm positive this isn't going to be a popular thought with a lot of people but think about it, all of their problems started at or around the time they officially merged with Enix in 2003. Of course, picking up certain games (mostly Dragon Quest) has been great for them, but otherwise it just feels like everything's been "meh" at best since they've fused the names together. People kinda still do speak higher of "just Square" they they do Square Enix, so I'd say re-branding is an attempt to maybe purge those ill thoughts and go back to basics for the company.
I hate to see Enix finally go (or really just fade out), but I can't say I'm shocked Square would do this.
Spin off Enix and let them do their own thing again. Also.. I don't know how... but get the old Ogre Battle team together and start making Ogre Battle games again.
Paladin's Quest! I forgot that one.
Has to be one of the most weird RPGs I ever played back then. I liked it a lot, actually.
Has to be one of the most weird RPGs I ever played back then. I liked it a lot, actually.
Basically, they need to work on, imho:
Valkyrie Profile 3: Hrist (COME ON!!! Make it already!)
A tactical-rpg Front Mission, as it should be.
A real Mana game, old school style, even if it's only a downloadable title.
And I have some small, small, small hope to see a main Final Fantasy title that won't be all about extra superfluous belts, pretty hair and useless summons...
Valkyrie Profile 3: Hrist (COME ON!!! Make it already!)
A tactical-rpg Front Mission, as it should be.
A real Mana game, old school style, even if it's only a downloadable title.
And I have some small, small, small hope to see a main Final Fantasy title that won't be all about extra superfluous belts, pretty hair and useless summons...
@ElReminator: I wasn't calling out Enix specifically, but the whole title "Square Enix". I don't really think Enix had much to do with it, but there's no denying that since Squaresoft rebranded to Square Enix, their quality has plummeted. Their problems were already underway, but now that brand name is associated with quite a few sub-par games. So I don't blame them for removing that stigma.
(Actually, given their current thinking, I'm surprised they didn't change the company name to Square Enix Eidos Duodecim 347.45/6. Maybe this is a positive sign!)
(Actually, given their current thinking, I'm surprised they didn't change the company name to Square Enix Eidos Duodecim 347.45/6. Maybe this is a positive sign!)
Front Mission 6. Also: A Front Mission collection of 1-5, localized. It doesn't even need to be HD or upscaled, Square. You'd just need to translated 2 and 5 and slap it all on a single Bluray.
For the love of god.
For the love of god.
Square Enix Eidos Duodecim 347.45/6 .....
Comment of the week! Haha
But you forgot Dream Drop Versus Crystal Theatre Sleep
Comment of the week! Haha
But you forgot Dream Drop Versus Crystal Theatre Sleep
Magnalon: Considering Chrono Trigger was made by Square and Enix working together I don't think them putting Enix's name on the re-release is really an issue.
BoomingEchoes: After Enix rescued their ass out of the fire following Final Fantasy the movie? Pffft. The problem is how long Enix took between main series DQ games. The quality of the DQ series hasn't gone down. Nor have any of the other Enix brands. Square games have taken a complete shit since FFX and The Bouncer. Probably since it takes them so long to make a main series FF game any more.
BoomingEchoes: After Enix rescued their ass out of the fire following Final Fantasy the movie? Pffft. The problem is how long Enix took between main series DQ games. The quality of the DQ series hasn't gone down. Nor have any of the other Enix brands. Square games have taken a complete shit since FFX and The Bouncer. Probably since it takes them so long to make a main series FF game any more.
@Rabite
Did anyone from Enix other than Yuji Horii work on Chrono Trigger? Also, wasn't he freelance, and not associated with Enix?
Did anyone from Enix other than Yuji Horii work on Chrono Trigger? Also, wasn't he freelance, and not associated with Enix?
Putting aside the issue of quality, as a simple marketing decision, I think most of us can agree that plain old "Square" is a better company name. I seriously doubt it will lead to any immediate change in their games, but if this is true, I for one will be perfectly happy to see the death of the "Squeenix" moniker.
If by extension they're going to resurrect all the classic IPs they left to rot, then they can use the Square name, otherwise please don't taint it.
It would help to get Wada out of there though.
It would help to get Wada out of there though.
@ Magnalon:
I think you may be a bit confused about Enix - They have never developed a game fully in-house. They had a few key programmers and staff that worked at Enix, but the majority of each and every game was outsourced. I don't know what this business is you speak of with them not developing "the early" DQ games; ChunSoft developed the first five, Heartbeat developed the sixth, Heartbeat & ArtePiazza developed the seventh, and Level 5 developed the eighth and ninth games in the series. The stories are always written by Yuji Horii, the art is always done by Akira Toriyama, and the music is always done by Koichi Sugiyama.
Everything else they made was merely published, as far as I know.
But why was that a bad thing? Enix was a great publisher that brought us some great games, and Quintet had a very strong working relationship with them through the 90s.
Why all the hate? You make them sound like a group of greasy turds.
EA's been publishing a slew of great games lately - are they bad for it?
I think you may be a bit confused about Enix - They have never developed a game fully in-house. They had a few key programmers and staff that worked at Enix, but the majority of each and every game was outsourced. I don't know what this business is you speak of with them not developing "the early" DQ games; ChunSoft developed the first five, Heartbeat developed the sixth, Heartbeat & ArtePiazza developed the seventh, and Level 5 developed the eighth and ninth games in the series. The stories are always written by Yuji Horii, the art is always done by Akira Toriyama, and the music is always done by Koichi Sugiyama.
Everything else they made was merely published, as far as I know.
But why was that a bad thing? Enix was a great publisher that brought us some great games, and Quintet had a very strong working relationship with them through the 90s.
Why all the hate? You make them sound like a group of greasy turds.
EA's been publishing a slew of great games lately - are they bad for it?
I don't really care either way, it's just the name. As long as it has "Square" in it somehow, I'm fine with it.
@BenHaskett
And let it never be forgotten that the upcoming success Deus Ex: Human Revolution is Eidos Montreal's game at core. I'll be pissed if squeenix gets all the credit! (Yes, I'm proud of my city)
And let it never be forgotten that the upcoming success Deus Ex: Human Revolution is Eidos Montreal's game at core. I'll be pissed if squeenix gets all the credit! (Yes, I'm proud of my city)
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