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They're probably not counting the thousands watching it on streams internationally who also think the whole think is shit.
Couldn't agree more, Dale. The sense of embarrassment that washes over me when I watch the VGA's... it's like a kid totally fucking up his part of the play, and having to sit through it.
And and all this Bro stuff, like we all play COD while slapping each other's asses.
And and all this Bro stuff, like we all play COD while slapping each other's asses.
Spike Dude Game Awards is a good way to put it. Personally, I don't watch but rather wait for the recap/trailers the next day on Destructoid. Don't need the fluff when all I want to see are the trailers. It also means nothing to me if a game wins or loses. I don't find there to be any artistic value the VGA's and maybe that's not the point of the show. Kinda reminds me of the MTV Movie/Music Awards in the style over substance. Hopefully as video games become more established (even more so than now) the VGA can evolve into something more than the Dude awards they are now.
"I also dislike that the type of games I enjoy are never even mentioned or nominated."
That's because Japanese games suck!
That's because Japanese games suck!
Which is why I don't even bother to look up the results later. I'm a female gamer, so nothing about Spike TV appeals to me.
Mario Galaxy won for best Wii game, but it should have at leasat been nominated for game of the year.
Its a "Bro Network". No fantastic indie darlings or other obscure and critically acclaimed titles. Just the casual shit everyone else plays, which is fine, but I just wait for all the trailers and stuff on the Internet hours later. No need to watch it.
As much as it makes me rage, it's best we just ignore the entire show and let it die in a corner. Do you honestly think that anybody in that audience or anybody involved in that show has ever played a Zelda game? Final Fantasy? Shadow of the Colossus, Silent Hill, or really any pc game? Probably not. Casual gamers may get a lot of flak for only playing wii sports, and bejewled, but I find the bro gamers much more annoying. (also is there a better term than bro gamers?)
You know what was hilarious? When they didn't even include Starcraft 2 on their top competitive multiplayer list, and instead included two Wii games!!! Amazing! It's like they don't know anything about gaming!!!
Oh wait, that was Destructoid, not VGA...
Oops.
Oh wait, that was Destructoid, not VGA...
Oops.
@maliyuki
as a male gamer that is past college age, nothing about spike tv appeals to me.
also, jeff keogley is the biggest douche in the industry right now. he single handedly made pachter the attention whore/dipshit analyst that he is. take your cashmere hoodie and hit the road already, would you, jeff?
as a male gamer that is past college age, nothing about spike tv appeals to me.
also, jeff keogley is the biggest douche in the industry right now. he single handedly made pachter the attention whore/dipshit analyst that he is. take your cashmere hoodie and hit the road already, would you, jeff?
Unfortunately, television is all about numbers and demographics. Doesn't matter where it airs, the network will dictate the content. If it aired on Lifetime, then we'd see Ellen as the host and Just Dance 2 bringing home Game of the Year honors.
That's why it needs to be an internet telecast. Get rid of all the celebrities who know nothing about games and replace them with various personalities from videogame websites like this one. Broadcast it from one of the big gaming cons. A few booth-babes wouldn't hurt, though.
That's why it needs to be an internet telecast. Get rid of all the celebrities who know nothing about games and replace them with various personalities from videogame websites like this one. Broadcast it from one of the big gaming cons. A few booth-babes wouldn't hurt, though.
im sure the fact that ufc 124 was on the same time didnt help any. at least i know of one viewer that was not watching because they were watching the fights..... it was me.
I tuned in every now and then, and it took less than a minute for me to change it back. It was hideous in its presentation, and truly felt like it was more about Hollywood blockbusters and testosterone-fueled tea-bagging sims than honest to goodness games.
Aside from SPvTW winning an award, nothing about that show made me feel good. It was completely and utterly painful to watch. Dudebro gaming indeed.
Aside from SPvTW winning an award, nothing about that show made me feel good. It was completely and utterly painful to watch. Dudebro gaming indeed.
I've been watching it a little bit at a time on DVR, just to see the trailers and stuff.
The rest of it is just agony. I feel bad for the hosts and presenters who are reading that crap and getting zero laughs. I think part of that may have to do with the audience though. They need to make like Nintendo at E3 and litter the audience with fanboys who are going to hoot and holler, instead of game designers who realize how pathetic the show is.
The rest of it is just agony. I feel bad for the hosts and presenters who are reading that crap and getting zero laughs. I think part of that may have to do with the audience though. They need to make like Nintendo at E3 and litter the audience with fanboys who are going to hoot and holler, instead of game designers who realize how pathetic the show is.
I get where they're coming from with the big focus on manly action games and all that, but it's the wrong approach. They should know better than to think that the "CoD" demographic would actually take time away from either playing Call of Duty or going out and being social to watch their crappy, meaningless awards show.
I actually think that if they treated our industry with a bit more respect and were fair and balanced in their approach to handing out awards than gamers might bother tuning in.
Or probably not. More likely, they'll be busy playing video games.
I actually think that if they treated our industry with a bit more respect and were fair and balanced in their approach to handing out awards than gamers might bother tuning in.
Or probably not. More likely, they'll be busy playing video games.
I think a Video Game Awards show could work, I just think Spike has fucked it up so badly that gamers don't even want to watch it.
This years show was an embarrassment.
I like the idea of game premiers and debut trailers, but the comedy stuff is busted at best, and insulting at worst.
I'd like to see them bring in some Daily Show/Colbert Report writers, and bring in some hosts with more industry credibility.
...and it'd help if they remembered that games are made in the East too!
Fuckers!
This years show was an embarrassment.
I like the idea of game premiers and debut trailers, but the comedy stuff is busted at best, and insulting at worst.
I'd like to see them bring in some Daily Show/Colbert Report writers, and bring in some hosts with more industry credibility.
...and it'd help if they remembered that games are made in the East too!
Fuckers!
I have to agree with your article... I cant stand watching them and you know Activision probably buys all the booze for the after hours party.
Honestly I'm bemoaning the complete absence of 999: 9 Hours 9 Persons 9 Doors from any GotY lists more than anything else. That game deserves a lot more attention than it's recieving
It was a complete fucking joke. It sells itself to the LCD of our community, the immature asshats who spew their bullshit over LIVE and 'bro' it up. That shit needs to die, as we do not need outsiders looking to that as our Academy Awards.
I only watched the VGA for the Uncharted 3 and Batman Arkham City trailers as personally I don't like the VGA's and some of the winners of the awards were pretty shocking.
I agree copletely. Those sexists over there at Spike will only give the time of day to game that took over 5 million dollars to make.
I think that the style of the show removes any gravitas it could have as an awards show. I don't think the VGAs are the right direction for a proper awards show for the videogame industry. I like what BAFTA have done with their awards but then maybe that's bias because I'm british.
I'm afraid I didn't watch the VGAs this year I only watched the trailers from other websites (the important part), but what always struck me as odd is the choice of people who present the award. At a music awards musicians give out the awards at film and television awards it's etc. The people who present the awards should be from the videogame industry as it can only help but give some sort of legitimacy towards the giving on the award.
Also though it wasn't my game of the year I think the omission of Mario Galaxy 2 for GOTY could possibly be due to the demographic that watch the VGAs. Or just that it wasn't good enough to make the cut, but then why did Black Ops have any nominations?
Sam Woods character of the year... ha... ha.... hahaha... AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA.
I'm afraid I didn't watch the VGAs this year I only watched the trailers from other websites (the important part), but what always struck me as odd is the choice of people who present the award. At a music awards musicians give out the awards at film and television awards it's etc. The people who present the awards should be from the videogame industry as it can only help but give some sort of legitimacy towards the giving on the award.
Also though it wasn't my game of the year I think the omission of Mario Galaxy 2 for GOTY could possibly be due to the demographic that watch the VGAs. Or just that it wasn't good enough to make the cut, but then why did Black Ops have any nominations?
Sam Woods character of the year... ha... ha.... hahaha... AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA.
It's a games show that focusses on only a small area of gaming with presentation designed to attract some other culture with no direct ties to gaming. Of course it sucks.
The Spike VGAs have been shit for awhile. These are the same people who named Madden '05 their GOTY one year. Pointing out this thing sucks is like spending millions of dollars to tell people that the sky's blue.
Well, as far as I remember they didn't nominate Super Mario Galaxy, so I guess technically it wasn't a surprise SMG2 didn't get nominated. I guess these games just don't fit into their "vision" of video games...
So... how do we go about getting Comedy Central to host a Video Game Awards? At least it'd be funny, and right now I'll take just funny over the unfunny, raging broner fest that Spike puked up. Because, I hate Dane Cook. I hate him, so very very much.
You mean the VGAs were hosted by spike? I couldve sworn it was activision behind that pos award show.
As much as I really love Destructoid, and agree with this article 100%, I would just like to point out that Destructoid's nominations were nothing to praise either.
Quite frankly, the awards that mean the most are the ones given by the fans, that being playing the game and supporting the company. That in itself means a lot more than words or trophies could ever muster.
Quite frankly, the awards that mean the most are the ones given by the fans, that being playing the game and supporting the company. That in itself means a lot more than words or trophies could ever muster.
Listen bro's, Madden, NCAA, Halo, and just about every sports game and FPS gets lambasted by hipster fucks unless it has some esoteric reference to the "nerd" days before the bro's took over. Give me a break. Yeah there is a focus on the games that most casual gamers play because the entire market is pushed along by casual gamers. The "hardcore" gamer might buy some gay title like Dr. Tiddlewinks or whatever but that simply isn't going to push sales and units. Fact is that the market has shifted towards casual since before the Wii and after the Wii it's now dominated by people who just want to play for an hour or two and then go back to the real world. That being said nobody wants or needs another awards show. The Oscars/Tony/Emmy's are all muff cabbage as it is.
@Darkside2984
Whoa dude. Way to crap on everyone.
PS
>We only ask that you act respectfully and above all: don't be a troll and ruin it for everyone else. Don't bring down gamers or we'll, you know, gently shoot you in the face and stuff you into a flaming mailbox.
Whoa dude. Way to crap on everyone.
PS
>We only ask that you act respectfully and above all: don't be a troll and ruin it for everyone else. Don't bring down gamers or we'll, you know, gently shoot you in the face and stuff you into a flaming mailbox.
Maybe people actually want true quality games to get nominated instead of just "AAA" stuff the industry wants to hype to brotastic fanboys, i mean Black Ops for GOTY? really? REALLY? even though it released just a few weeks back? and all this while shunning Super Mario Galaxy 2 for GOTY, GTFO please.
The only good thing about the VGAs are the game reveals and i'd bet just about anything that that is the real reason those 627,000 viewers tuned in to watch and nothing else.
The only good thing about the VGAs are the game reveals and i'd bet just about anything that that is the real reason those 627,000 viewers tuned in to watch and nothing else.
I'm just hoping like the satalite provides, that cable providers will soon drop spike/G4 into the abyss to free up some space for good programming.
I found the lack of SC2 and SMG2 GOTY nominations reason enough to discredit the entire shot. Not that I have anything against RDR or Mass Effect 2, mind you, its just when you snub the most polished, critically acclaimed and mainstream game of the year I just can't take your other picks seriously.
SMG2 should have been up there. Not saying it had to win, but it should should have grabbed the nomination. Giving it the "Best Wii Game" was the easy way out.
I found the lack of SC2 and SMG2 GOTY nominations reason enough to discredit the entire shot. Not that I have anything against RDR or Mass Effect 2, mind you, its just when you snub the most polished, critically acclaimed and mainstream game of the year I just can't take your other picks seriously.
SMG2 should have been up there. Not saying it had to win, but it should should have grabbed the nomination. Giving it the "Best Wii Game" was the easy way out.
Maybe if the content of their show was any good instead of the commercials.
But ultimately Spike TV as a whole needs to change before the VGAs get any decent rating.
But ultimately Spike TV as a whole needs to change before the VGAs get any decent rating.
The VGAs on Spike are largely tuned by gamers because the people who put the crap on the air don't care about video games, so there is no heart or soul to it. It's as simple as that. Instead, the shit awards show is designed, manufactured, and produced by salespeople, pitchmen, corporate head nodders, and ad makers, only trying to raise their bottom line. You know, the same people who ruined Comic-Con.
@killias2
heh. Nice one.
@killias2
heh. Nice one.
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