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9:59 AM on 12.20.2007, Dale North 64 comments

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"These video games -- gosh, they've gotten a lot more realistic over the years," says Fox 26's newscaster Ned Hibberd in the opening of a segment called Videogame Addiction on Houston's Fox station.

In the segment, which can be found in their Videogames can be Explicit, Addictive story, they talk with neurotherapist Ron Swatzyna, who says that gamers' "brains can not tell the difference between being in real combat and being in a game," and continues to say that "the brain is going into a survival mode."

This statement is followed by stock footage of fiery explosions while the newscaster likens this "survivial mode" to the posttraumatic stress disorder a soldier would get on the front lines of war.

Swatzyna also talks about videogame addiction, stating that he has "seen people who have stopped playing the game go into withdrawal-type symptoms - shakes and everything else."

Finally, Ned Hibberd rounds the segment out by saying that "Parents who let their kids pour their youth into an online alterego might be creating a pixelated Peter Pan."

You can watch this fine segment on MyFox Houston's Web page

Tell me, Destructoid reader and avid gamer, how are you coping with your posttraumatic stress disorder and incessant shaking? 

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manta's Avatar
manta at 12/20/2007 10:00
I actually haven't gone to sleep tonight. Every time I close my eyes, I can still hear the voices. They haunt me to no end. WHEN WILL THIS EVER STOP?

MAXIMUM ARMOR
MAXIMUM SPEED
MAXIMUM STRENGTH
CLOAK ENGAGED

AHHHHHHHHH!
BluDesign's Avatar
BluDesign at 12/20/2007 10:02
I'm not playing games right now. I'm fine.

I've got my heroin and booze to tide me over till 5pm.

Oh, also, I wouldn't put too much weight in this story.

Fox 26 here in Houston routinely does exposes on child predators and whorehouses. So much so that they made it into a Sunday night segment called "Predator Check"

They are typical expose style news with no real meat.

BTW, for us to be the #7 largest media market, our entire news and radio coverage in Houston is TERRIBLE like this. Awful news coverage, terrible reporting. Even the weathermen blow. 50% chance of rain means that 50% of Houston's getting rained on. That's about it.
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ShadowXOR at 12/20/2007 10:03
Then why are people always bitching about graphics so much if we can't tell the difference already?

This is so much bullshit it isn't even worth a long/serious response.
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Def JM at 12/20/2007 10:05
My shakes are from the booze.
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Cowzilla3 at 12/20/2007 10:06
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blehman at 12/20/2007 10:06
If anyone EVER calls me a pixelated Peter Pan, I'll show them what it's like to have post-traumatic stress syndrom.
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DieMore at 12/20/2007 10:07
"PTSD sufferers re-experience the traumatic event or events in some way, tend to avoid places, people, or other things that remind them of the event"

thats why i feel like crawling up into a shivering ball everytime i see a hedgehog. DAM YOU SONIC, WHY COULDNT I COMPLETE YOU!
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pierrerodriguez at 12/20/2007 10:12
god, this hits home so hard. just yesterday i rolled up my whole neighborhood into a beautiful planet. my father told me it looked necessities-ish. then we danced and sang songs with red panda bears and ultraman.
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glipe at 12/20/2007 10:12
I died last night.

=(
John B's Avatar
John B at 12/20/2007 10:17
What an utter crock of shit. Not even worthy of a response.
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BlackDove at 12/20/2007 10:17
I also can't sleep, haunted by the voices that say

CLOAK ENGAGED!

Does somebody have some HEROIN? I NEED IT TO NUMB THE PAIN!
wardrox's Avatar
wardrox at 12/20/2007 10:17
can't type... must play and KILL
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Dukeman330 at 12/20/2007 10:18
So true... just last night I put down my controller and discovered that I had become a pixelated Peter Pan.

wtf does that even mean?
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cjpkiller at 12/20/2007 10:19
I spend more time talking about games than I do actually playing them... which is kinda gay... but hey dtoid's community rocks face what can I say.
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GuitarAtomik at 12/20/2007 10:21
I've always wondered why I attack the nearest person whenever I hear the word "Slayer" said in a deep voice.

but seriously,
That's the biggest load of bullshit I've heard in a long time. I want this guy to name ONE person that's been "traumatized" by a game at all, let alone to the level war would traumatize someone. He's basically trivializing what a lot of soldiers go through and I'd be offended if I was a veteran.
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blu3steel at 12/20/2007 10:22
Ok these people are stupid. There is no study that says the brain can't tell the difference between the real battlefield and the video game. The study that I assume they're referring to states that playing videogames can make your body release adrenaline in the same way that playing sports or perhaps being in combat does.

They're making a ridiculous jump from "the body releases adrenaline" to THE BRAIN CAN'T TELL THE DIFFERENCE!
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Axle at 12/20/2007 10:22
This is demeaning to war and those people who give their lives in it. You can't tell me that people can't tell the difference betwewen a kid whose legs have been blown off by a landmine and COD 4.

This is fuct.
burglarize's Avatar
burglarize at 12/20/2007 10:23


This maybe?
ShadowXOR's Avatar
ShadowXOR at 12/20/2007 10:27
If you get adrenaline while playing game, that is fun.

If you get adrenaline while trying not to die in a real war, that is not fun.

I know I sure as fuck would like to stick with being a couch commando rather than a real commando.
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Patriot SE at 12/20/2007 10:28
I've been going through CoD4 withdraw. Now if you dont mind I need to raid the 711.
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Cheeburga at 12/20/2007 10:32
Hey guys, I just came back from killing my neighbors. I unlocked an achievement called jail.
awesome/
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Professor Pew at 12/20/2007 10:32
They could be the same to the brain, if there was a 100% similarity between features that the brain processes. However, there is no such similarity (yet):P
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GuitarAtomik at 12/20/2007 10:35
I meant to add:

For example. I play and have played a copious amount of racing games that invlove you wrecking the shit out of your car and crumpling it to pieces. Destruction Derby was one of my favorite games when it came out and I loved Twisted Metal. So by this guy's logic, I should fear ever stepping foot in a car because I'm unable to distinguish the games from real life.

But I was entirely fine in a car until I was sideswiped by a semi in real life. Now I have trouble sitting in the passenger seat especially on rainy nights since that's the situation I was in when it happenned. So my point is that I know what it's like to be traumatized, and no game has ever done it to me because I can easily distinguish between reality and games as I'm sure most people can.
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Eurotuner at 12/20/2007 10:37
LOL @ Cheeburga. I got the achievement 'On the run', i killed my family thinking they were Koreans and have so far escaped the police for the past few months.
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foxhound009 at 12/20/2007 10:41
I think fox is right, last night when I was walking my dog out I suddenly began to run and shoot people for no reason... I killed like 30 people or so... it's just that I was thinking... it's a freqing game.... yup... because that's what games do.. they make you psycho :s :S
Brilliam's Avatar
Brilliam at 12/20/2007 10:41
When I get the shakes, I boot up the ol' Wii. I win every game thanks to those little tremors. Thanks, PTSD! Without you, I'd suck at Mario Party 8.
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Tragic_hero at 12/20/2007 10:42
To play devils advocate a bit there have been situations of video game addictions but that only falls in the MMO category it seems. Players who were addicted to "EverCrack" back in the day living in filth and not going to work and the one guy killing himself because his guild mate robbed him of all his stuff.

Then the other story of the asian boy who killed the 60 year old woman for rought 6 US dollars to pay for another month of "random addictive Asian MMO" and of course the hardcore WoW players we hear about.

This guy is still full of shit, no doubt about that, but there are sad individuals out there who get addicted to games.
FiZ's Avatar
FiZ at 12/20/2007 10:43
How do I deal with the shakes and stress? Season 3 Arena Gear, bitches.
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Torzelan at 12/20/2007 10:44
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thousand-yard_stare

Happens to me everytime a grenade detonates next to me in any of my FPS games. It's a real hassle. I'm lucky I can type without looking at my keyboard.
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king3vbo at 12/20/2007 10:45
I played COD4 the other night, and I killed Phist... and then I started screaming:

"NOOOOOOO PHIST WHY??? WHY DID I KILL YOU? NOT THE AZN!!!"

...I guess I cant tell the difference between games and reality
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NihonTiger90 at 12/20/2007 10:48
I'm sorry, I can't reply. I don't have time in between all the times I'm acting out my video game violence in the real world. [/sarcasm]
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repsode at 12/20/2007 10:50
It's all the same to the bits of the brain that evolved the earliest, hence the adrenaline rush. Those are the bits of the brain that constitues instinct and other primal reactions and reflexes.

We have, of course, evovled beyond that to the point that while the primal responses remain, we are able to temper them with rational thought.

As we know the events on screen are not really a threat to our survival we are able to react to it differently and more rationally so we do not make a situation potentially worse.

Hence you don't see people running for their lives in fear as soon as they boot up CoD4.
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Drop of Flame at 12/20/2007 10:53
Gotta love the shot of someone putting Battlefield 2 into a DVD player.
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Rosseh at 12/20/2007 10:57
Along the same lines as Repsode, I'm pretty sure if I was being shot at and my buddy got sniped in the face I would crap my pants rather than just laugh.
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njsykora at 12/20/2007 10:58
I think my shaking is more to do with the caffiene than any gaming. Megaman trained me for my life of murderous crime sprees though, damn that **** is pure realism.
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NyghtcrawleR at 12/20/2007 11:01
I play Socom a lot and I'm pretty sure if it was real I would sure hell not be running around in close quarters chucking grenades and using an automatic weapon...

To hell with that.
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Terror Player at 12/20/2007 11:04
Well, I just raped my mother, ate my dog, and masturbated over dead babies piled together. All this to mute down the voices in my head: You donīt have enough MP, Silence, Frag... the stress... the stress...
Dale North's Avatar
Dale North at 12/20/2007 11:09
best....comments....ever
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weedgan at 12/20/2007 11:13
So is peter pan going to be banned now too?

Whats so wrong with peter pan, I'm mean shit, at least he enjoyed himself.
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twincannon at 12/20/2007 11:16
Fox.
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pierrerodriguez at 12/20/2007 11:23
i suppose the bright side to all this is that, as i suspected, i am a bad enough dude to save the president. watch your back, karnov.
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Corak at 12/20/2007 11:38
I agree with GuitarAtomik
"He's basically trivializing what a lot of soldiers go through and I'd be offended if I was a veteran."

Saying that a video game about war is similar to what our soliders go through shows just how uninformed he is. One of my mom's good friends' son just came back from Iraq a few months ago. He's having sleep problems, sleep walking, and some other stuff. No matter how many war games I play I don't exhibit symptoms of post traumatic stress syndrome, and I've been playing them for YEARS.

However, I was walking into the grocery store the other day and I heard a sound like the claymore makes in COD4 before it goes off and I stopped in my tracks, kinda funny if you ask me.
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ShawnKelfonne at 12/20/2007 11:39
Ahh! The turtles man, the turtles! Just when you think you're safe, BAM! The shell comes rolling back! They're everywhere, man! We have to stop the turtles!
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Jetsetlemming at 12/20/2007 12:02
How come we always hear about the retarded stories Fox affiliates run? I know first-hand that ABC and NBC local news are just as likely to run this kind of things. I know the first story I heard of pedos using the DS and picto-chat to talk to kids was from an ABC station.


Now if you'll excuse me, I've got to go shoot up a russian night club before I lapse into bullet time and speaking noir again.
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PrinceofCannedPeaches at 12/20/2007 12:21
Me? After a good game of Call of Duty 4, I like to walk into a nearby crowded mall with a satchel full of pipe bombs and an M16 with 100-round drum mag and kill those long-haired hippie bastards at the hemp stands. All in good fun, though
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brainderailment at 12/20/2007 12:24
FUCK NO! My brother spent time in Kuwait last year, and he didn't think it was quite as fun as COD4.
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BlackDove at 12/20/2007 12:30
Man, I just tried going to sleep, but couldn't.

The overpowering sounds of my days on the battlefield when they screamed QUAD DAMAGE and HEAD SHOT as well as MOOOOOOOOONSTER KIIIIIILL!

I can't dream anymore.
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bmdubya at 12/20/2007 12:38
This is insane. If you can't tell the difference between video games and the real world, then there is something wrong with your brain. I can play really violent games and be ok with it because I know it is fake, but I can't watch movies with an insane amount of gore. I hate how these "scientists" think they know everything about video games.
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