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Sony: Xperia Play not another N-gage (reality: yes it is) photo

Sony has declared that its new N-Gage, the Xperia Play, will not be a new N-Gage. 

"As you can see from the design of [the Xperia Play], when you hold it in portrait it's a smartphone," said Sony-Ericsson's Dom Neil-Dwyer. "It's not a game device that you can make some phone calls on, it's a smartphone. When you've got the game keys hidden and you're just holding it like that, people wouldn't know what it is, but obviously when you pop it open it's a great gaming device. 

"The people that are going to be buying this are looking for something new. There's just a sea of touchscreen devices out there and they're looking for something cool. So that's the type of consumer that we're looking for. I bumped into someone here at E3 that had one and they're exactly the type of person we're targeting, which is a very cool, young person that wants something different, right? And that's basically our target audience."

According to Dwyer, the N-Gage failed because it "wasn't a smartphone" and that's why the Xperia Play is not going to be like it. In any case, we have a review of the N-Gage coming this week. Sorry, I meant to say Xperia. 

Interview: Why Sony Ericsson's Xperia Play Is Not Another N-Gage [Gamasutra]








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Zacagawea's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/04/2011 16:05
Zacagawea
Good job Jimothy
killias2's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/04/2011 16:05
killias2
Although I haven't touched one, it looks way way better than the ngage. In fact, I wish the controller element was on more phones. Still, like I said, I haven't actualy used it...
Zacagawea's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/04/2011 16:06
Zacagawea
Great job Jimothy
Zacagawea's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/04/2011 16:06
Zacagawea
Oh no another puzzle Jimothy
Neroisonfire's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/04/2011 16:06
Neroisonfire
That fact that it's a smart phone is indeed cool, since I think iPhones are lame since everyone has them. Unique smartphones are indeed cool.

That said, having a phone in your gaming device is just asking for trouble in my opinion. It's gonna drain the battery and leave me unable to text or make calls.
Zacagawea's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/04/2011 16:11
Zacagawea
What are you going to try Jimothy?
heyricochet's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/04/2011 16:20
heyricochet
Having owned both an N-gage QD and the Xperia, its two different things. One took physical media, was awkward to text on, and had a limited supply of games. The Xperia is an android phone with a controller strapped to it, thats it. Has the same customization as every other android phone.

So while I would say the n-gage failed because of the stigma of the first one (side-talkin, game cart under battery) the xperia is a different beast because its exactly like every other android phone, just with a slide out gamepad.
AceFlibble's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/04/2011 16:23
AceFlibble
"very cool" and "someone here at E3" don't mix. If you're at E3, you're a nerd. You may be cool in the nerd realm, but overall you're still a nerd. Fashionable people will not be walking around E3 with an Xperia. Beyoncé does not use an Xperia. Jake Gyllenhaal does not use an Xperia. Ade Edmondson does not use an Xperia. Angelina Jolie does not use an Xperia.
Vincent Pavey's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/04/2011 16:23
Vincent Pavey
My main problem with it is that it isn't on the Playstation Network. If I could use the games I ALREADY OWN then I'd have less problems with picking one up.
psycho terror2's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/04/2011 16:24
psycho terror2
"As you can see from the design of [the Xperia Play], when you hold it in portrait it's a [fucking enourmously chunky] smartphone [because it has a game controller attached to it]"
Dante Douglas's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/04/2011 16:26
Dante Douglas
Has anyone seen the framerate on this thing? It's fucking AWFUL. We're talking like, 6fps. That is not a gaming device.
Frank Caron's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/04/2011 16:27
Frank Caron
I've had one for a few weeks, and I much prefer it to the Droid line or even my old, glorious Nexus One. It really is the best smartphone for gaming. Why? Because all of the old emulators that are legally available on the Android market are compatible. The 60 or so Android-native games that support it are great (especially Gameloft's, like Dungeon Hunter 2 HD), but man, playing SNES/PSX/NES/GB/GBA/etc. on the same phone I do business with, and in a comfortable way, is great.
Deth Garcia's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/04/2011 16:30
Deth Garcia
i didn't saw that coming.
good one
Jhonny Thizzlam's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/04/2011 16:30
Jhonny Thizzlam
I remember making rico mad when i called the xperia a ngage mwuahahahahaa
myosan8bit's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/04/2011 16:34
myosan8bit
have Sony stopped sending you free stuff yet Jim?
Lenigod's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/04/2011 16:36
Lenigod
As some one who is looking at replacing their standard cell phone with a smart phone soon, This is probably the first thing I'm going to be looking at as a replacement for my [size=2pt]LG rumour[/size]
EliteFreq's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/04/2011 16:38
EliteFreq
It doesn't look too bad, but then again I still have my N-Gage (although to be fair, at the time I had it I jad it for games, not to use as a phone). Gaming phones, however, aren't really my thing, and I doubt that the Xperia Play will do any better because it's a smartphone, as in terms of smartphone-edness it'll still be a weak competitor, much like the N-Gage was on the phone front.

It being a smartphone is nothing special, most phones are now, well done Sony, you've managed to keep up with your market (just like Nokia did, with a little bad execution), have a cookie...
Tristrix's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/04/2011 16:40
Tristrix
Sounds like Jim's assertion is being counter by people that actually own and use one. This should be interesting.
Im The Singer in Symphony X's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/04/2011 16:52
Im The Singer in Symphony X
damn, Jim got owned by the community.

Dont worry jim, Killzone is coming to the Vita so don't fret.
O.M.'s Avatar - Comment posted on 07/04/2011 16:52
O.M.
The Xperia looks ugly now and will look even uglier in the future.

The N-Gage looked ugly when it launched and looks ugly now.
SmileyBarry's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/04/2011 16:56
SmileyBarry
At least this iteration will have Minecraft.

I can see the swarm of Minecraft fans ditching their phones, carriers, mobile operating systems and purchased apps for a phone that does Minecraft on the go.
The Silent Protagonist's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/04/2011 16:57
The Silent Protagonist
I played that Bruce Lee game on Xperia at my local Verizon.

I want that minute of my life back.
BoomingEchoes's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/04/2011 17:03
BoomingEchoes
Err.. From wikipedia:

"A smartphone is a high-end mobile phone that offers more advanced computing ability and connectivity than a contemporary feature phone (i.e. a modern low-end phone). A smart phone combines the functions of a personal digital assistant (PDA) and a mobile phone...."

and

"Besides its gaming capabilities, the N-Gage was a Series 60 smartphone, running Symbian OS 6.1, with features similar to those of the Nokia 3650 (it does not have an integrated camera, however). It was able to run all Series 60 software (other than those that require a camera), and Java MIDP applications as well. Its main CPU was an ARM Integrated (ARMI) compatible chip (ARM4T architecture) running at 104 MHz, the same as the Nokia 7650 and 3650 phones."

So by this definition the N-gage was a smartphone, it just wasn't the same caliber as TODAY'S smartphones and Dwyer really doesn't seem to know what he's talking about at all.

And really, the main reason Sony needs to distance itself from the N-Gage has nothing to do with its look or how the buttons are placed, its because the services provided to, and the phone itself, were complete shite. It got next to no service anywhere, even when very close to a tower.

I had 2 friends who had this and one of them worked in the same mall I worked at, which had towers right on the roof above us (because the mall had at least one of each of the major providers within) and they couldn't get a proper signal no matter where they were in the building. And we lived in highly populated areas on lower NY, so it wasn't so backwoods town in the middle of no where that just couldn't get good service -The technology and services behind the N-Gage just weren't up to snuff; Fix that and you'll have your phones sell.

As a closing note to this comment, Dwyer says about the Xperia: "...a very cool, young person that wants something different, right? And that's basically our target audience."

And that was the same exact audience the N-Gage was looking for and failed to capture. Today's a much different market, so lets hope Sony can figure out how to grab people without calling attention to an archaic platform it should be ignoring rather then raking back up.
MrFunsockz's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/04/2011 17:23
MrFunsockz
You know, if I could tie it to my PSN account, and play my PS1 and possibly PSP games on it, I'd be all over this. I NEED a new phone (my old one didn't like going swimming with me) and I'm a huge fan of handheld gaming... but I can't warrant having to buy a new phone AND my game library over again.
M47R1X's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/04/2011 17:35
M47R1X
At least it's not a plastic taco.
Red TheHaze Veron's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/04/2011 17:37
Red TheHaze Veron
I like the idea of the Xperia Play, its just that Sony isn't supporting it as a gaming device and treats it as a phone. The N-Gage failed because of lack of support because they knew nothing about gaming handhelds and just treated it as a phone that plays games. See the similarity there?
Zohar127's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/04/2011 17:37
Zohar127
The Xperia play is a great Android phone, basically stock Gingerbread, with every single capability you would get out of any other Android 2.3 device. It's a tried and true, highly supported, widely accepted platform. Then it adds the slide-out controller.

Even if you completely ignore the slide out controller it has every modern feature and technology of an Android device. In that regard, it is already vastly superior, and different, than the ngage.

The Playstation Suite software may or may not turn out to be awesome, but even if it sucks, the controller still works -awesome- for emulating.

The comparison to the ngage is invalid.
Phoenix Gamma's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/04/2011 17:45
Phoenix Gamma
Mother 3 will come out before the Wii gets any decent support in 2011. Deal w/it.
Ben Ward's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/04/2011 17:48
Ben Ward
@ Ace Flibble

Who cares if it's fashionable or not. I could give a lesser shit if an actor/ress uses said phone or not. Nor if it's seen on a walkway in a fashion show. I'm a gamer (read: Video Game Nerd) and if I want to play non smartphone games on a smartphone this is the way I'd go.

On a side not you do realize the irony of calling people nerds for going to an event for gaming on a gaming website?
mafaesto's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/04/2011 18:07
mafaesto
I think you're a moron, and you're wasting everybody's time including your own. Make your own website and stay the fuck away from my gaming news that matters.
pokota's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/04/2011 18:08
pokota
Eh, no need to get worked up about Sterling's comments in a copy/paste article, he's just trying to set his work apart with a dash of sensationalism and a little trolling on the side. The smart thing to do with his pieces is to read the source, since he usually just picks things out that support something he wants to say.

As far as the Xperia Play goes, it's a standard smart phone with buttons added. Not sure if that fits the description of the N-gage, but if it does, then so be it? I know I'd like to have one, but I'm waiting for v2.
EternalDeathSlayer's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/04/2011 18:15
EternalDeathSlayer
They're not really similar at all besides the phone and game part of it all. But in terms of success, I'd say you're probably right with your comparison.

Actually, it's more like a combination of the PSP and the ngage. People who do buy it will more than likely do so with the intention of emulating the very PSOne games you can buy for it and then using the controller thingy. But very few people will buy it.
Arttemis's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/04/2011 18:27
Arttemis
It's an android smartphone, which is awesome. It has access to emulators for every system up to PS1, with better controls than any other phone.

n-gage wasn't great at anything.

Once there's a decent custom ROM, I'll definitely upgrade to this phone.
Alex N's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/04/2011 19:12
Alex N
Every time I see a commercial for this, the 3 seconds of gameplay they show is extremely unimpressive and laggy. Like literally, 5fps. Does not instill confidence.
HaVoK308's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/04/2011 19:16
HaVoK308
This thing will be dead by the end of the year.
NukaCola's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/04/2011 19:16
NukaCola
Troll harder next time, Jim. I have an Xperia Play and I love it as a smartphone. As a gaming phone...yeah it leaves a lot to be desired, but it's a good Crash Bandicoot player. Asphalt 6 and Star Battalion aren't bad either.
Vallanthaz's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/04/2011 19:24
Vallanthaz
Yeah, no it's not.

Nice try though, Jim. Find something else to cry about.
wutang4ever's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/04/2011 19:26
wutang4ever
Sony got a point. They;re not expecting to sell in portable gaming numbers. Its really just another phone except it plays ps1 games. So the games are already pretty much made, and all that is needed is to emulate them. Besides that gaming function, the phone is a smart phone. I don't see why there can't be a phone version of the Vita. Its got that 3G already.
EternalDeathSlayer's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/04/2011 19:26
EternalDeathSlayer
Ultimately it's got one truly fatal flaw:

Who the fuck buys a Sony cell phone?
SKSith's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/04/2011 19:48
SKSith
Dwyer makes a good point. I want the phone, but I'm not willing to switch to Verizon. But I want a Droid and as long as there are no major problems with it, the Play is my pref just because of the game contolls.

N-Gage failed because look at it. It's a dumbphone with ugly, uncofortable looking butons, released at a time when mobile gaming was complete garbage.
Stinky's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/04/2011 20:00
Stinky
It's a shame the phone's release coincided with all of the best Android emulators being taken out of the marketplace; the only reason I'd consider getting it over any other cheaper phone.
weapon178's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/04/2011 22:37
weapon178
@EternalDeathSlayer - I do....granted one of my main uses for mobile phones is listening to music. IMO nothing really compares to Sony Ericsson Walkman series phones. I own a W995 which was possibly the last great phone off the Walkman Series.
Nitex's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/04/2011 22:49
Nitex
I wanted one, but AT&T never got the damn thing and I needed a new phone badly. Got the Infuse 4G instead. It's a bitch to play emulators on, but at least its huge.
Derek Gillies's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/04/2011 23:21
Derek Gillies
I have one. It's decent. It does anything any other Android smartphone does plus adds a good gamepad. For not a lot of money on a plan. Beat iPhone for me any day of the weak
Stinky's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/04/2011 23:55
Stinky
Anyway I hope it does reasonably well so I can buy the improved version when it comes out. :3
Strike24's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/05/2011 00:42
Strike24
I see the Sonyfanboys are out in full force once again.

Another successful Destructiod article.
AllenR's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/05/2011 00:46
AllenR
Except the Xperia runs Android, which is a huge plus. Even if you choose not to go the Android route, it gives you better controls to play the many more quality games on the market with physical controls instead of touch screen nonsense.
AllenR's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/05/2011 00:48
AllenR
Err, I meant even if you don't go the emulator route.
burningsoup's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/05/2011 01:00
burningsoup
@BoomingEchoes

Could you sum that up in one paragraph or less?
AceFlibble's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/05/2011 02:52
AceFlibble
@Ben Ward You could not have missed the joke more if you tried.
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