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I don't really care if people would say it works on any other port. It's inexcusable to have a game on a particular console with hideous technical problems at launch, and then say they can't get DLC for said console port to work properly.
The game may be good for what it is, but I can't overlook a AAA developer studio that can't get a game to work properly on a single console and not even deliver DLC because they can't get it to work.
The game may be good for what it is, but I can't overlook a AAA developer studio that can't get a game to work properly on a single console and not even deliver DLC because they can't get it to work.
It must be kind of embarrassing for a major studio to say it can't code video game content for a system when hundreds of smaller studios already have. Otherwise this does seem to be one of the few companies that aren't completely abusing DLC, so I'd say it's justifiable for fans to want it.
Sony needs to get its act together. This is most definitely not Bethesda's fault and it is highly likely that the DLC will never come to fruition. If they can do it then great! If not, I don't blame Bethesda one bit.
One of the few games that's probably worth that $60, though, in terms of the huge amount of content and playtime.
Did they even patch the problems caused by the previous patch on the PS3 or did they jumped directly to fix the expansion problem?
I havnt bought a bethesda game since fallout tatitcs.
Hmm... Hey bethesda how about making a new fallout game based on originals gameplay? Release it on vita and you have my forgiveness.
Hmm... Hey bethesda how about making a new fallout game based on originals gameplay? Release it on vita and you have my forgiveness.
Sony's dev support team should be doing more productive things with their time. Like having a pizza party. Or napping.
There should be a ranking system in place for publishers and developers.
A proper system, not just something thrown together. It would surely make people want to make better games.
A proper system, not just something thrown together. It would surely make people want to make better games.
@SayWord
Fallout tacticts was made my Micro forte and published by 14 degrees east.
Considering virtually all you do is bully people for their gaming tastes here on dtoid... dont you think you should get your facts right when you spread out into other whining?
Fallout tacticts was made my Micro forte and published by 14 degrees east.
Considering virtually all you do is bully people for their gaming tastes here on dtoid... dont you think you should get your facts right when you spread out into other whining?
@LEONOFDEATH Unfortunately (like every system) its relavance would only last so long as it takes someone to figure out how to break it. Even Metacritic is easy to swing with mass zero-reviews: [url=http://www.destructoid.com/modern-warfare-3-dev-tries-to-boost-metacritic-user-score-215764.phtml]Modern Warfare 3 dev tries to boost Metacritic user score
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@SayWord - That's interesting considering Bethesda didn't develop or publish Fallout Tactics. It was developed by Micro Forte and published by 14 Degrees East, a division of Interplay.
Bethesda just owns the rights now, I believe. And you'd trust Bethesda with another Sony platform when they can handle the one they're supposed to be focusing on?
Okay.
Bethesda just owns the rights now, I believe. And you'd trust Bethesda with another Sony platform when they can handle the one they're supposed to be focusing on?
Okay.
@SayWord: Bethesda... Fallout Tactics... Bethesda... wait, what? You do realize that ALL the classic Fallout-games have nothing to do with Bethesda (a fact that I'm very fond of)? Ouch. Well, at least Black Isle and Bethesda start with the same letter, right?
@SayWord
Bethesda have had nothing to do with any of the Fallout games before the first two fully 3D iterations.
Bethesda have had nothing to do with any of the Fallout games before the first two fully 3D iterations.
Really, PS3 folk. You're not missing anything too impressive. It's easily one of the more lacking Bethesda add-ons.
@janoDX
"LOL at Bethesda seriously needs lessons in making video games."
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Bethesda isn't exactly batting 1.000 when it comes to the PC and Xbox versions of their games. Bethesda has a buggy bloated engine in general, it is just that the PS3's hardware design causes it to fall victim to some of those bugs and bloat faster than the other systems. Bethesda has known this for years. And while their ability to patch their problems is about a hundred times better than the current incarnation of Infinity Ward, they still make mistakes that they shouldn't be making.
And if you want to get into game design, Bethesda is also lacking there.
"LOL at Bethesda seriously needs lessons in making video games."
Fixed back...
Bethesda isn't exactly batting 1.000 when it comes to the PC and Xbox versions of their games. Bethesda has a buggy bloated engine in general, it is just that the PS3's hardware design causes it to fall victim to some of those bugs and bloat faster than the other systems. Bethesda has known this for years. And while their ability to patch their problems is about a hundred times better than the current incarnation of Infinity Ward, they still make mistakes that they shouldn't be making.
And if you want to get into game design, Bethesda is also lacking there.
@PhilK3nS3bb3n: I don't think it's the gamebryo engine as much as Bethesda's incompetence, after all Catherine used the gamebryo too, right? yes, open world and puzzle game are not the same but Skyrim is Bethesda's 2nd use of gamebryo in an open world game seven years after the start of the generation so one would think they learned something from experience and 7 freaking years of time, right?.
The technical problems coupled with the inability to get any of the expansion content inspired me to trade in my PS3 copy (for more than I paid for it, woo!) and pick up the PC version during an inevitable Steam sale.
Or just not pick it up at all. This kind of half-assed porting strikes me as a damn good reason to not give Bethesda more of my money until they shape the fuck up.
Or just not pick it up at all. This kind of half-assed porting strikes me as a damn good reason to not give Bethesda more of my money until they shape the fuck up.
@EdgyDude
Skyrim uses a brand new engine.
So i guess they did learn a lesson, they stopped using gamebryo.
Skyrim uses a brand new engine.
So i guess they did learn a lesson, they stopped using gamebryo.
@Themuad: So it's basically Bethesda's incompetence no matter what engine they use, thanks, good to know.
I dont have a PS3 and I still think its pretty dumb to get a Bethesda title on a console, but I am glad theyre getting it sorted out.
@EdgyDude, you mean the same way Blizzard has learned to have stable servers at launch for online games after years of maintaining the largest MMO ever? Yeh, lol.
@EdgyDude, you mean the same way Blizzard has learned to have stable servers at launch for online games after years of maintaining the largest MMO ever? Yeh, lol.
@Achromantis: "ou mean the same way Blizzard has learned to have stable servers at launch for online games after years of maintaining the largest MMO ever? Yeh, lol."
Pretty much, and that's not even counting the force online connection for the single player part of Diablo 3, guess stupidity has become a part of devs and publishers since the start of the current gen.
@Themuad: Glad you understand.
Pretty much, and that's not even counting the force online connection for the single player part of Diablo 3, guess stupidity has become a part of devs and publishers since the start of the current gen.
@Themuad: Glad you understand.
How dare they try to make content available to more people? I need to be able to act like a retard and insult PS3 users over this and now I'll no longer be able to do so.
Well hey, I guess the next step is just for them to quit trying to make games for the PS3 and just focus on the PC and Xbox platforms.
Don't even care. I sold my PS3 Skyrim a while ago, because despite 7 patches they still can't fix the fucking lag and general awfulness that port had.
Not to mention that the game had some of the simplest and lamest combat I've ever seen, and it was about 10 times shallower than Oblivion.
Not to mention that the game had some of the simplest and lamest combat I've ever seen, and it was about 10 times shallower than Oblivion.
... at this point I don't really much care. When Dawnguard first came out I was interested, but after hearing reviews from Xbox owners that have played it, I likely wouldn't get it now. (I wonder if DLC exclusivity actually harms sales in the long run. This often seems to be the case... everyone excited for the DLC, but it disappoints. Those that have to wait for the DLC but hear the reviews - I wonder how often they actually buy.)
Still, it's good to sort these issues out in the event that they actually do come up with some decent (like Shivering Isles) DLC in the future. It would be even nicer if they could fix the lag issues in the actual game. Playing with all the save options disabled is a pain in the butt and totally ruins the immersion.
Sony definitely needs better quality control though. I honestly don't understand how games can be released where basic functions like voice chat don't reliably work.
Still, it's good to sort these issues out in the event that they actually do come up with some decent (like Shivering Isles) DLC in the future. It would be even nicer if they could fix the lag issues in the actual game. Playing with all the save options disabled is a pain in the butt and totally ruins the immersion.
Sony definitely needs better quality control though. I honestly don't understand how games can be released where basic functions like voice chat don't reliably work.
@Football Religion
You might want to look up the actual meaning of the word entitled. Seriously, this is starting to become one of my biggest pet peeves.
Also, by your logic, no has a right to complain about... anything, really. Millions of people are starving to death right now, after all.
You might want to look up the actual meaning of the word entitled. Seriously, this is starting to become one of my biggest pet peeves.
Also, by your logic, no has a right to complain about... anything, really. Millions of people are starving to death right now, after all.
Even if bethesda can get dawnguard out, getting them hearthfire is going to be a an even bigger bitch. I have it on my xbox and the more shit i build in the house the more likely it freezes just for picking a damn item from my garden or something simple like that. It freezes one out of every 4 or 5 times i enter it and it still missing about 10 percent of the stuff to build. (And its not like im using the house for storage yet either, its just the stuff the game says can be built into my house.) With a game system where they already have problems with freezing, adding hearthfire is almost a death sentence. Hope they can fix it for both systems though......
Do people really want to buy this after getting burned? Id be indifferent to getting it for free. In fact I find any attempt to mend this train wreak of a game futile, short of having a massive recall and public tar & feathering of Tod Howard.
Considering that the PS3 has its RAM divided up the way that it does rather than pooling it together in the way that the Xbox 360 does,the difficulties could be mostly on Sony this time rather than Bethesda Softworks.
Don't worry,though, Bethesda Softworks will make yet another error all on their own and everyone will be able to chide them for their screw-ups,but this might be out of their less-than-adequately capable hands.
Don't worry,though, Bethesda Softworks will make yet another error all on their own and everyone will be able to chide them for their screw-ups,but this might be out of their less-than-adequately capable hands.
I would laugh if Sony makes it run smoothly making it look like zero issues. One day Bethesda will learn to code and maybe hire a real Q&A team to stop this in future instead of letting modders fix your game on Pc and crapping out ports for consoles.
@PhilK3nS3bb3n
It got a new name and they claim its a newly made engine. So unless its a ball faced lie (i imagine someone would have called them on that by now) its a new engine i guess.
It got a new name and they claim its a newly made engine. So unless its a ball faced lie (i imagine someone would have called them on that by now) its a new engine i guess.
I like how Sony isn't even confident in their ability to make it happen. Maybe Bethesda weren't being such incompetent fucks after all.
It's okay, Bethesda. Just let Sony take your hand and walk you through all the bad things you're unable to deal with. Just ignore the fact that these problems are rarely ever conflicting with other third-party developers or even comparable with any of their own issues with the PS3.
@Football Religion
Heh, I'm an idiot. :/ Anyway, what I was trying to say is that that usage of the word "entitled" is incorrect. The correct term is "false sense of entitlement."
Heh, I'm an idiot. :/ Anyway, what I was trying to say is that that usage of the word "entitled" is incorrect. The correct term is "false sense of entitlement."
"Bethesda cast doubt on the idea of ever getting it working."
Why would they even care about getting it working? That never stopped them from releasing Skyrim or any of their other games to critical and commercial success.
Bethesda can take Skyrim and Dawnguard and shove them up their ass. The games are bugged shit still this long after launch and the base game is pathetically shallow to begin with.
Why would they even care about getting it working? That never stopped them from releasing Skyrim or any of their other games to critical and commercial success.
Bethesda can take Skyrim and Dawnguard and shove them up their ass. The games are bugged shit still this long after launch and the base game is pathetically shallow to begin with.
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