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Sony winning is best for the industry ... says Sony photo

Most multinational corprations are in business for themselves, and only themselves, which is absolutely fine. However, Sony is more of a philanthropist than that, and isn't just fighting for its own profit margins, but for the good of the world! You see, Sony thinks the PlayStation brand should win this generation because it will be best for the videogame industry at large. How thoughtful!

"In an industry that's certainly had its challenges this year, we like to say that the environment where PlayStation wins is best for this industry," claims SCEA boss Jack Tretton, while chatting about Skyrocketing PS3 sales. "We have a brand that can play on a worldwide basis, young and old, male and female, where our competition tends to be relegated to either select regions or to select consumer audiences.

"... We don't have unlimited money, we cater to a more mass market audience. I think we're willing to take a little bit more risk than a competitor like Nintendo is and ultimately we deliver to the masses on a worldwide basis and that's what we've done for the last 15 years."

Seriously, Jack? Did you seriously just try and claim that the PS3 is a mainstream brand while the Wii is more of a niche console, only suitable for "select audiences?" Wow ... yet another brilliant homerun for Sony's borderline insane marketing department. 

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mOnion's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 13:42
mOnion
i hang upon your every word jim

i. love. your. articles.
PokeyStaples's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 13:50
PokeyStaples
Jim, I love your work. However, I do think that maybe Sony was saying that they take more risks than Nintendo, not that they reach a wider audience than Nintendo.

::shuffles out::
Havoc Fang's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 13:50
Havoc Fang
Sony, feel free to make your own trophy out of a cereal box.
WAIW's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 13:50
WAIW
"Seriously, Jack? Did you seriously just try and claim that the PS3 is a mainstream brand while the Wii is more of a niche console, only suitable for "select audiences?""
I think you're reading into his statement too much. He said the Playstation brand, not the PS3. I'm not sure if the Wii or Playstation brands would be more recognizable to the average, non-video game obsessed person -- both are pretty well known at this point -- but what he's saying is not entirely untrue.
Danmartigan's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 13:53
Danmartigan
sony is a sony fanboy, confirmed.
DarkMagic56's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 13:54
DarkMagic56
Sony needs to STFU seriously, they talk way to much bullsh!t.
Anjo's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 13:55
Anjo
"...ultimately we deliver to the masses on a worldwide basis and that's what we've done for the last 15 years."

Unlike Nintendo?
NubPhiSh's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 13:57
NubPhiSh
yea you missed the ball on this one jim... hating on jack are we? no doubt any exec is a douche but you are misreading
Cowboy TTop's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 14:00
Cowboy TTop
Lol, oh Sony. Don't miss slapping yourselves on the back, while tripping over everyone elses foot up your ass.
WarZombie's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 14:00
WarZombie
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

PS3 winning is good for the industry? Really? Damn Sony, I love your consoles, but but get your head out of your ass. The industry isn't going to collapse because you aren't winning. I understand it's his job to say this stuff, but my goodness. This statement was a whole new level of ignorance.

I do agree that Sony take more chances than Nintendo, because that's obvious, but I don't think that Sony needs to win in order for the industry to thrive. It has more to do with the economy sucking rather than the PS3 is not winning that the industry has been down this year. I'm glad the PS3 is selling more, but it doesn't need to be winning in order for the industry to go back up.

Sorry Jack :D
BluDesign's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 14:04
BluDesign
Last I checked Nintendo took a might big fucking risk with the Wii and the DS and recouped sales to all audiences.

Sony already expected technologies into an overpriced box. Whee. Innovative. Their console is just now gaining a competitve price point, starting to get exclusives worth owning, etc.

I'm sure ultimately Sony will do just fine but like the other two companies, their selective narcissism handicaps their ability to totally dominate this industry.
Shadowiii's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 14:04
Shadowiii
... We don't have unlimited money, we cater to a more mass market audience. I think we're willing to take a little bit more risk than a competitor like Nintendo"
EVen though I don't like the Wii, this makes me want to punch him in the face. Weren't they the ones saying "motion control is for bitches" when the Wii was introduced? Predicting the Wii would flop horribly as the worst gamble nintendo ever made? And now they are the "risky" ones, releasing the exact same Wiimote for their Playstation after Nintendo takes the risk years ago with the Wii?
There's bullshit, and then there's uberbullshit. This actually makes me upset. I can't believe he even said that.
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 14:04
Xzyliac
This is Corporia. It's just the way it goes. This sounds to me like a sales pitch to the impressionable kids who can be recruited into the SDF.

Why do these things surprise and/or upset people? You don't rise up in Corporia by telling the truth and being nice or fair. I thought this was common knowledge by now. Chill out.
Kvb's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 14:05
Kvb
"I think we're willing to take a little bit more risk than a competitor like Nintendo is"

I almost choked when I read that. Priceless.
Shadowiii's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 14:06
Shadowiii
Also, everyone knowns "In the Name of the King" did more for the fantasy movie business then "Lord of the Ring" ever did.
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 14:07
Holyetheline
This guy is blowing smoke.
Takeshi's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 14:07
Takeshi
What else did you expect? Jack Tretton saying it is best for the industry if the 360 wins? Doesn't everybody say positive things about their company? Hell, Bill Gates even said the 360 was going to be the most reliable console on the market. Now tell me what is more ridiculous.
Beyamor's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 14:07
Beyamor
It's about time he said what we were all thinking.
Bardini's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 14:12
Bardini
"ultimately we deliver to the masses on a worldwide basis and that's what we've done for the last 15 years"...
so... thats why here in south america the ps3 cost US$500, and worse, we dont have playstation store yet...
Xzyliac's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 14:21
Xzyliac
@Takeshi
Exactly. This is not worth getting all up in arms about. Broken promises, irresponsibility, these are things for consumers to get PO'd about. Not "We're the best," bull shit quotes.
wanderingpixel's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 14:21
wanderingpixel
"... We don't have unlimited money, we cater to a more mass market audience. I think we're willing to take a little bit more risk than a competitor like Nintendo is..."

The Wii is so bland that it might as well be called the Gamecube 2 -- it's
backwards compatible for god's sake; so 20th century. The PS3 is so much more innovative with it's Trophies, Killzone 2, and motion control.
theswitcher's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 14:22
theswitcher
The only risk Sony has ever took....ever, is pricing a console at a level no one could afford.

Didn't really work out for them.
Nicojay2's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 14:27
Nicojay2
This man is an inspiration. I wish I could tell such whoppers with a straight face.
Hiltz's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 14:29
Hiltz
Sony's PS3 new tagline: It only does ALMOST everything.
ydarkage's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 14:32
ydarkage
And I bet he does, because Uwe Boll is a crazy son of a bison!!!
Edicus's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 14:36
Edicus
It's not much worse than what everyone else says, it's all just PR BS. If they follow suit on this, at the next E3 they'll talk about sales numbers over competitors for half of their press conference.
Super Drybones's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 14:37
Super Drybones
(the bag of random swag you sent for the Cobra thing came, it is AWESOME, thx guys)

Also I think Sony may be doing stupid things to get attention, like the kid who eats light bulbs.
Electrium's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 14:38
Electrium
What the hell? How can I take a word anything this guy says seriously when he thinks the PS3 / PSP are "riskier" than the Wii/DS? Nintendo is developing a peripheral that measures you're freaking pulse, that's pretty damn risky to me. But guess what? We KNOW somehow, Nintendo will make it good.

Meanwhile, Sony rips off the Wii with their PS3-Wiimote, and Apple with their download only gaming device. Innovation? I think not.

Yeah, you expect them to make their system sound better than it is, but not to the point where you question everything about their credibility. Probably one of the most blatantly idiotic things I've heard a PR person say in the last few years.

That said, it's freakin' hilarious.
mrandydixon's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 14:40
mrandydixon
@ wanderpixel

Couldn't have said it better myself (unless you'd dropped an F bomb in there, that is).
mrplow8's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 14:42
mrplow8
Jessica Alba marrying me is best for Jessica Alba, says me. That's why I don't understand why she hasn't called me yet.
faultymoose's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 14:45
faultymoose
Urgh, I can't believe I'm going to say this... but he KIND of has a point. Not a great point, and not much of value in the literal quotation, but consider technology.

PC gaming isn't as popular as it used to be, right? Well, it's PC gaming that drives technology. Or drove. ATI and nVidia predominantly, hacking away at each other over the last few years, the result of which was rapid advancement of graphical fidelity. Enter stage left Agea and the like, working for their own market share and incidentally progressing tech along with it.

Yeah graphics aren't gameplay, yadda yadda. What a load of bullshit. "Gameplay" is an esoteric mish-mash of concepts that aim for a singular result - immersion. And graphics play a pretty big part to that end.

So with PC gaming quietly crying in a corner (for this generation at least, and potentially much longer), who is driving tech?

It's certainly not Microsoft. They're taking the sensible business approach. They release a fairly gutsy console, at a respectable price, and then charge you for every single little fucking thing they possibly can. But that's neither here nor there. The real problem is that Microsoft isn't interested in advancing tech, they're interested in hitting the lowest common denominator and making a bazillion dollars, so they'll never push for OMGOURCONSOLECANCURECANCER, and for the consumer this generation, that's really fucking tops.

Nintendo are going for the "Let's CHANGE the way people play" approach, which is all good and dandy, but we all know how that turned out. Gimmicks are fun for 20 minutes, and I certainly hope the entire industry doesn't suddenly decide to 'innovate' by devolving into an avalanche of cutesy half assed sports sims and exercise kits.

So there's Sony. Arrogant, stupid, ridiculously unjustifiably cocky, Sony. They're pushing the tech, still aiming for the piece of computing hardware that doesn't just blow your socks off, but simultaneously collapses into a quantum singularity of it's own awesome. Costs a bazillion dollars, loses them a bazillionzillion dollars... but at the moment, they're the only ones out there that are going to challenge Microsoft - the only other serious competitor at the moment (hoping Nintendo picks up their game for the next gen) - to really push the next generation.

So gamers can shove their hoity toity "graphics aren't gameplay" and "physics don't matter" and "PFFT cell LOL" right up their ass. I want the next generation to LOOK next gen. I want it to be so full of next-gen-ness that my eyes bleed. I want shit breaking and liquids flowing and all of that superfluous crap that can't save a shitty game, but can make a great game FUCKING AWESOME. And if there is no real competition in this market, that just won't happen.

While I rarely play my PS3, and adore my 360 to the point of unhealthy longing, I'm really fucking glad that we still have Sony, standing up there and banging their chest, justified or not, because at least they still believe that the old school, give-me-all-the-bells-and-whistles, live-it-breathe-it gamers exist, and it's not all about selling the same tired old clones to mass market audiences.

</rantfuckyouall>
theswitcher's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 14:46
theswitcher
I wonder what the hell Tretton will say when the October numbers roll in, and the Wii still beats out the PS3.
mrplow8's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 14:48
mrplow8
@theswitcher
That's only because Nintendo selected a select audience that just happened to be larger than the more mainstream, yet smaller, audience that Sony is targeting.
keisal's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 14:50
keisal
as a 22 year old female i believe i am in the generally not selected consumer audience. my first new gen console was the 360. my second was the wii. my last was the ps3 and its also the one i play the least...
Timmeh's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 14:50
Timmeh
This is almost as funny as that Activision guy talking about taking risks with IPs.
theswitcher's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 14:51
theswitcher
@mrplow8

That makes sense to me.
mrplow8's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 14:52
mrplow8
@mkshiranui
Was motion control ever really fun? All I remember thinking the day I got my Wii was "I wish all these idiots would get away from my console so I can stop playing Wii Sports and play Zelda." Then later when I was playing Zelda, I remember thinking "I wish I would have gotten the Gamecube version."
Mattchewie's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 14:52
Mattchewie
what faultymoose said. One just needs to look at the PC market to see what happens when MS "wins"......they get just as cocky.
gideon's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 14:53
gideon
Sony does take more risks than Nintendo! You don't see Nintendo charging double what the competition charges for its consoles, do you?You don't see Nintendo offering a new SKU for its portable gaming library that has less functionality than the previous installment and charging over 50% more for it, do you? Those are some risks, man! Case closed!
Monodi's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 14:54
Monodi
Where were you in 1989, Sony?
Black Nexus's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 15:18
Black Nexus
Sony said something positive about sony, everyone NERRRRRD RAAAAAAAGE.


Serioulsly people its PR nothing to get this wound up about, you all look crazy.
bobyoko's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 15:18
bobyoko
if you look at the history of the industry, innovation hasn't been sony's strong suit. they're still using a glorified snes controller for crying out loud. it seems to me that they only concern themselves with processors and chipsets, while the artistic software takes a back seat. i'm so glad that sony doesn't lead the market any longer, because if they did, we would still be playing the same old games repackaged for the ps3. it surprises me to see the hardcore gamer being mostly unwilling to support change in the industry (wii). it's only a matter of time before the industry stops catering to your incessant need for ps2 retreads.

@ faultymoose

you really have a strong point there about ms not pushing the industry, and wii having a problem with poor development. i see the 360 really being the ps2 of this gen. kind of the lowest common denominator of this gen. not really that high tech of a machine, and catering to the big title gamer. the wii really sought to push the industry in a new direction, but no one else has yet wanted to do anything but put out garbage software. nintendo, it seems, is too busy catering to the new market to develop compelling software, which is a shame, because they're still the best game dev in the business. sony has found a new niche this gen, however. they are now the company that has the most technologically advanced hardware. it seems that their plan backfired mostly due to their weak software, which has always been their shortcoming. hopefully, now that motion control is becoming the industry standard, we'll see the software improve in kind.

the best thing you or i can do as gamers, is to stop supporting the big name companies that are flooding the market with garbage software. ie: activision, ea, ubisoft, and the like. not that i expect this to happen over night, because then dtoid wouldn't have anything to write about;-)
matrixdude171's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 15:26
matrixdude171
Congratulations Sony, you win the arrogant trophy.
faultymoose's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 15:37
faultymoose
@bobyoko: Absolutely, the 360 is this generation's PS2 and it's worked well for both Microsoft and the consumer. And you're right that the PS3 backfired. Still, I'm glad it's there. If it wasn't, then Microsoft wouldn't have the competition they need to step up next generation. Any market without competition becomes stagnant, quickly. I hope the gap can be shortened next gen, so that all 3 consoles share similar levels of success, because for the consumer, that's the best possible outcome.
Hcapt's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 15:47
Hcapt
Wit, I don't wnt the video game industry to survive, I want gaming to survive. And I believe that only one of the two can exist at any given time.

So what's best for gaming is for Sony to fail miserably, because it would desimate the industry.
Cowboy TTop's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 15:48
Cowboy TTop
@Faultymoose

I hear what you are saying dude, but this industry is always changing, and would always move forward because competition is what drives any industry. If it wasn't Sony, Apple might have entered the home console market, or someone else.

Sony and PS3 are an example, of thinking with your head too far up tech ass (something the PC market suffered from so much, that it was almost crippled by chip makers, forever boosting their chips every year, and developers/customers having to fight to keep up with them, this is why majority of the devs are on consoles now), and in contrast Nintendo and Wii are the opposite, no thinking enough with tech under the hood in mind (and software too, which is why devs shy from them). And hey, look who falls nicely between them both, MS and 360. 360 is a nice balance of both, while bringing new ideas like achievements, party chat, decent seemless multiplayer and mics as standard to the console table, and these late endeavours both Sony and Nintendo have yet to match or include as standard. Natal is going to bring something unique enough, which isn't like Sony and Nintendo's motion stuff as much.

Whoever leads, should bring some fresh ideas to the table, to expand gaming and its audience. Tech is not just about graphic chips anymore, but also hard drive (optical of solid state), broadband services etc, all those things a PC has had in sycn for years. Once again, it wasn't Sony or Nintendo who worked hard enough on these but MS, after building on the ashes of Dreamcast, with Live. I was once a staunch Nintendo fan (I still love their games, but just like any others), and I was skeptical of MS entering the console market, but I can happily admit I was wrong. The industry and gamers have benefited from all players, even MS.

Whether you like it or not, graphics have reached their peak, and aren't going to change much from now on, unless stylised or have a few more charaters here, a lens flare there or whatever (unless you are the last PC gamer on planet earth).
Hcapt's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 15:49
Hcapt
And does Sony really believe it takes more risks than Nintendo? Nintendo reinvented both it's handhelds and it's consoles at the risk of it's own destruction as a first party hardware provider.

Sony knows nothing about risks.
mrplow8's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 15:54
mrplow8
@mkshiranui
Probably because I'm not really familiar with Okami. Did motion control actually make Okami more fun than it was on PS2, though? I'm seriously asking, because I've never played either version.
TwinDad's Avatar - Comment posted on 10/06/2009 16:00
TwinDad
When is NPD data being released?

This smells of horrible spin control by Sony from the Monthly NPD sales data.
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