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Sony: Wii an 'impulse buy'

11:17 AM on 01.31.2007   |   World Famous

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Sometimes Sony is wrong and on very rare occasions, Sony is right. This is one of those rare occasions. SCEA spokesman David Karraker revealed in an interview with the New York Times that the “Wii could be considered an impulse buy more than anything else.”

Think this is true? Let's consider this: The Wii carried a huge amount of hype into the holidays; The Wii is built for the short term; The PlayStation 3 costs a hefty $600 while the Wii comes in at $249; Niether system really has the game lineup to warrant a serious purchase, yet the hype is carrying the Wii through.

What's your take? 








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-D-'s Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2007 11:15
-D-
Are they still trying to justify that $600 behemoth that plays....nothing?
twesterm's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2007 11:16
twesterm
Even $250 isn't really an impule for the majority of people...
Snaileb 's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2007 11:16
Snaileb
Zelda > PS3




Also Summa, we all know your biased opinions of the Wii and PS3, so this article doesn't back up the OPINION, not fact but OPINION that Sony was right for stating this. It's just a flame war between companies.

Im suprised you'd support this Summa, then again, not so much.
Pilgrim's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2007 11:17
Pilgrim
Nintendo's PR > Sony PR
Jaded Alyx's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2007 11:18
Jaded Alyx
yeh, cuz anyone can just walk into a store and pick up a Wii on impulse right?
BlindsideDork's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2007 11:18
BlindsideDork
I don't see Wii being that short term. Granted it doesn't have a ton of games out right now....but how many 360 games that were REALLY good or must have this time last year, huh?
But the difference is that Wii doesn't have a lot of Wii titles but they also have a good number of VC games that people WANT and it is apparent they want them cause people are BUYING them and have sold over a million VC games.

But I don't see 360 has a lineup of games to warrant a serious purchase.

But I could see it as a impulse buy cause it is $249, but it also ISN'T an impulse buy b/c to acquire one it requires you to get up early sunday mornings to rush to the store and get one...not just walk in and randomly buy one. So it takes more thought and planning to get a Wii, making it NOT an impulse buy.
Pistolaero's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2007 11:20
Pistolaero
I think right now it seems that way because there are way too many depthless games coming out for the Wii. Fun, yes but for no more than 15-20 minutes at a time. I bought my Wii for Zelda and hopefully amazing game software in the future. For me this is not an impulse buy, reason being is that I know we'll soon start seeing games that implement innovation with good story-telling.

I love Sony, but someone needs to slap the shit out of them.
Aetsen's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2007 11:21
Aetsen
Preach, Brother, Preach!
waynethepain's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2007 11:21
waynethepain
Maybe if Sony would get their collective heads out of their asses, they would do better.
chado53's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2007 11:21
chado53
wii sounds like a console version of ds. thats why its not just hype. i think it'll follow through like the ds.
chado53's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2007 11:21
chado53
wii sounds like a console version of ds. thats why its not just hype. i think it'll follow through like the ds.
Rbj's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2007 11:22
Rbj
My Wii has had equal if not more play time than my 360 (Since I bought the wii) so I can't fault Nintendo's console, and if the good games keep coming then I don't see anything stopping it.
Zoex's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2007 11:23
Zoex
You are bias and use the site to further your own opinions.


My take.
BahamutZero's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2007 11:25
BahamutZero
my take is this guy's an idiot. by his reasoning anything under $600 is an "impulse buy"

sour grapes ftw
mdvalenz's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2007 11:25
mdvalenz
I don't think the Wii can be labeled an impulse buy till there are consoles sitting on the shelves for people to buy on impulse. So far it has been people who want one so bad they are tracking them down and going from store to store to find one.
All we can say right now is that the PS3 isn't an impulse buy ;-)
Snaileb 's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2007 11:25
Snaileb
^ agreed. I love Summa's posts and loose cannon antics but this blog is ridiculous.
Snaileb 's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2007 11:27
Snaileb
If you want to keeps it REAL... dawg.. look at it like this.

Wii : Impulse buy for early birds
PS3 : Impulse buy for rich kids/people.


I bought a PS3 for Resistance...

...my Wii and 360 tag teamed my nut bag and now I can't sit down.



Ouch.
Aaron Linde's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2007 11:28
Aaron Linde
No, Sony's not right, and neither are you. Just sayin'.
BahamutZero's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2007 11:29
BahamutZero
and seriously, rob, it doesn't help your sony street "cred" when your last post was about a crocheted kirby. oops.
PacoDG's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2007 11:29
PacoDG
I agree with twesterm, $250 may be just a day or so of work for most "adult" video game playing folk, but to the general public, whom Nintendo seemed to market toward, that is sometimes a price of something they would consider an investment (investment could be overstating it a bit.. but you get the point).

To me, $600 is still the price of a brand new electronic appliance that wouldn't require additional components (ie you still need games/hd tv to enjoy your PS3 purchase, where as $600 can get some people a tv/monitor/computer/kitchenware/etc,etc)
Aaron Mxy Yost's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2007 11:29
Aaron Mxy Yost
If someone gets a Wii as an impulse buy they've still bought a Wii. If I was an average consumer, I'd certainly be more willing to drop $250 on a console before $600.
Ballistic90's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2007 11:30
Ballistic90
I'd consider the PS3 an 'impulse buy' besides the price because Sony fanboys would buy it no matter what, even though the games don't warrant a purchase at all. The Wii already has a number of enjoyable games out, and while it needs more games with more depth, there's still plenty to do on it.

I'll always say that graphics are the true gimmicks, because they only last one generation. Good gameplay and controls, however, always keep going.
BluDesign's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2007 11:30
BluDesign
Impulse buy or not, when 3rd parties look at shipped numbers and hard sales figures of each particular console, they're going to dedicate their development costs to the console that's going to generate the most profit for them...

PS3 vs. Wii =

Wii wins. They can have a great big bag of suck for the next 6 months, but so long as 3rd parties want to continue developing games for the largest installed bases consoles, those consoles do well.

If you look at the release calendar for the PS2 and PS3 over the next 12 months, you'd think that the PS3 hasn't even launched yet. I mean, the highest profile game Sony's got coming in the next quarter is a PS2 game. Biggest seller last quarter? PS2 game.

Meanwhile, I guess the early death of the Gamecube allowed for them to move a lot faster for Nintendo. I dunno. But it was able to move directly to next-gen with very little drop off in development for the games. Paper Mario was originally supposed to drop in last October? And it'll be here in April on a different console. Metroid was supposed to be a Wii launch title, and it's now March/April. Zelda's perpetual delays got them a solid 75% penetration for console sales.

Sony will have resistance for a few more months as 3rd parties get their titles out.
shadloon's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2007 11:31
shadloon
Although I can agree mdvalenz comment, the relatively cheap price of the Wii does make it easier to purchase.

If the Wii was 600$, would it still be selling out constantly. Even with Zelda, I don't think you would have people still lining up to get it.

More than the games, what makes the Wii so attractive is the low price point. If you want to get in to next-gen gaming, it's the quickest route. In that sense, it is a sort of impulse buy.

Neither console has a software lineup that is golden at this point.
brad drac's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2007 11:32
brad drac
This is early adoption. Systems never start out brilliant. The fact is, weird/niche/cult games that made the ps2 so great to me, like katamari or gitaroo man, will be enormously less likely to be made for the ps3, due to staggering developmental costs and the risky nature of selling that type of game. Wii is comparatively cheap and easy to develop for, already(only a few months in) has a very healthy instal base, as well as the greater possibilities of the wiimote meaning, I consider it pretty likely that kind of title will end up on the wii this generation. That alone would make it worth the €270. That's discounting all the inevitebly great first party games, and other big games.

Wii might be an impulse buy. Frankly, who cares? More buyers = more games = win.
spokensilence18's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2007 11:33
spokensilence18
I think the people that say or think this clearly don't know the meaning of "impulse buy."
mikinho's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2007 11:36
mikinho
Summa, we know your writing lacks any hint of depth but at the very least give some arguments to why you consider Wii an impulse buy.

If you aren’t as ignorant as you make yourself out to be try reading some of Linde’s posts turn essays.
tfranjr's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2007 11:38
tfranjr
The $5 DVDs at Best Buy are impulse buys. A $250 gaming system that no store can keep on the shelves for more than a day is not.

shadloon's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2007 11:39
shadloon
Wii being an impulse buy doesn't mean it isn't a good console and vice versa.
Chris Taran's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2007 11:39
Chris Taran
You know, I thought it'd been awhile since Summa's last negative Wii article.

You need to be more consistent Rob! At least one Wii bashing per day! You're falling behind!
World Famous's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2007 11:40
World Famous
I do what I can Chris.
JoeyBuckets's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2007 11:41
JoeyBuckets
If the impulse is to buy a system with more than 1 game then yes it is an impulse buy.

impulse-buy definition "buy on impulse without proper reflection"

How can you impulse buy something you can't find? Most people have tons of reflection time while waiting for the Wii to be in stock.

I think that it is a fad more than anything else. Yeah he should have said "The Wii is a fad, nothing more" I would have bought that, and it sounds just as snotty.

In all honesty, if you buy a 360 and a Wii you will have all the Sony games and then some.

Sony = the guy that shows up as a party is winding down with no beer, eats the last of the chips, and wants you to hook him up with some ass.
Snaileb 's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2007 11:44
Snaileb
Don't encourage the madness Chris.
jl_torrente's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2007 11:45
jl_torrente
Has Summa always been so bitter against Nintendo or he developed that attitude when he was kicked out of Joystiq for the hype article?
dorock's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2007 11:46
dorock
Wii at launch I would consider an impluse, because once you beat Zelda, and play Wii Bowling to death. What is there? Elebits?

During the holidays I wanted one since the Nintendo hype machine dragged me in.(I try not to buy hype but its just so hard, I fall for all these empty promises...wait enough about my love life) Then I played my cousin's Wii, it was fun, we got the whole family playing, even Grandma! However there really isn't anything to keep me entertained when being played solo except Zelda, and if you go into the Virtual Machine, I'll point you to my emus on the Xbox.

At this point I'm more about the 360... and I have no idea why... I feel dirty and used.
BlindsideDork's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2007 11:46
BlindsideDork
OH SNAP!
Ins0mn1ac's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2007 12:14
Ins0mn1ac
The Wii could have almost been a gamecube peripheral, but Nintendo is in the business to make money, so props to them for making the right call.
But the 360 and PS3(even though sony will probably stick to their "sixaxis" guns til its a moot point) are only a peripheral away from being able to make all those nifty Wii games cross-platform. It would be interesting to see if the "next gen" systems will decide to target the market that nintendo's been trying to build
mandlebaum123's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2007 12:17
mandlebaum123
a candy bar is an impulse buy. The things on the counter at a convenience store are impulse buys. Anything in triple digits would only be an impulse buy to someone with F*** you money.
JoeyBuckets's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2007 12:17
JoeyBuckets
Ins0mn1ac-

Of course they will. Only they'll have more horsepower to create more immersive environments.

I look to 2008 for the competition to heat up in the control department.

BlackDove's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2007 12:17
BlackDove
Wii is the equivalent to scrabble or monopoly. I doubt anyone will give a damn in two years about it.
Pilgrim's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2007 12:20
Pilgrim
I still play monopoly
Ballistic90's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2007 12:25
Ballistic90
BlackDove, Monopoly has been out for a LONG time.

And the Wii has a lot more going for it than the PS3, which to consumers and developers looks like an Xbox 360 wannabe.

I didn't consider this to be a negative Wii article. Just... opinions. He didn't call it fact or anything.
some_dude's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2007 12:27
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Darren Nakamura's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2007 12:30
Darren Nakamura
Sony can say whatever they want about the Wii. It doesn't change the fact that Nintendo and Microsoft (mostly Microsoft) is kicking their collective corporate ass.

I don't know if calling it an impulse buy is quite accurate, but certainly, people are more willing to spend $250 on a game console than $600.
bassbeast's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2007 12:43
bassbeast
What's my take? I think you're full of it, sir.

Speaking as a gamer who has all three new-gen consoles, I can tell you that the PS3 is a vapid, overblown piece of tripe at this point. It's f'ing huge, it's unattractive and, oh yeah, the games for it suck. Ever play Genji? If not, go play it and tell me that it reeks of next-gen. We're playing it right now only because my wife has to review it, not out of love for the game or system. The OS is unweildly and confusing. Blu-ray isn't any better than HD DVD (in fact, the quality is lower when we did a side-by-side comparison, due to the improved VC-1 codec for HD DVD versus the MPEG-2 that's currently still used for Blu-ray). I won't say it's an abortion just yet - I reserve that statement for the PSP currently, which hasn't been turned on in months - but it's well on its way. Hell, they already had to drop the price in Japan by 100,000 yen within two months of release. What does that tell you?

(As proof that I'm not talking out my ass, I took a pic with my camera phone - sorry about the crap quality and the mess of cabling, I've been meaning to rewire everything - and it's viewable here: http://i5.tinypic.com/2lsv989.jpg)
pierce's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2007 13:02
pierce
I hardly call something that I have been looking forward to since the Nintendo "Revolution" phase an impulse buy. I can sort of understand where Sony is coming from with this, as I can see the Wii being outdated in probably another year and a half (let's face it, as fun as it is, it will never be on par with the other two systems. game wise.. maybe). But seriously, to call it an impulse buy? WTF Sony? What the hell do they call their machine? A regret buy?

(I apologize, as my little rant did come of a bit fanboyish. I love all systems equally, now can't we all just hug and forget all this foolishness?)
Cruds's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2007 13:05
Cruds
Don't feed the trolls, even if the troll is the poster of the article.
bluexy's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2007 13:10
bluexy
BAM - I despise the source, but I agree with the point. If not for the shortages, I would absolutely own a Wii right now, having gone out for store openings maybe 3 times.

Luckily my roomate found one somewhere, allowing me some hands on reality.

There's nothing good for the Wii either! It sits in our living room gathering dust while I play 360 in my spare time. Sure Z:TP is cool, and Elebits, Trauma, Wario, they're all 15 minutes of fun too, but they really have nothing more substantial then the PS3 (beyond $350 in your pocket).

Mark me down as waiting on the Wii, the same list I put the PS3 on.
christpunchermpls's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2007 13:14
christpunchermpls
as much as i love the Wii, its really an impulse thingy
pierce's Avatar - Comment posted on 01/31/2007 13:17
pierce
^^^^ TRAITOR!!!!

I agree with what most of you are saying about the games (or lack thereof in this case). But, let's face it Sony, you have one good game out for your PS3, Resistance. Wii has a few more, you both just came out, not many good games out yet, so let's cut each other some slack. I honestly don't see how the Wii would be anymore of an impulse buy than the PS3.
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