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Sony 'sorry' if you own all the 'Welcome Back' PSN games photo

Yesterday, Sony detailed the contents of its "Welcome Back" package, offering a variety of free games to consumers to make up for the PlayStation Network downtime. Sony was actually pretty decent about offering a solid mix of retail games and downloads, but inevitably, people weren't pleased. 

Some gamers have been angry about the fact that the offered games weren't brand new (seriously? Who expected that?) and Sony has addressed the criticism, apologizing to those who own everything, but standing by its decision. 

"I’m really sorry tha there is nothing there that you want," said SCEE's Nick Caplin. "We’ve tried really hard to put together a list of high quality BD games, rather than simply offering cheaper PSN titles. The average metacritic rating for these games is over 84%, so these are high quality games. Unfortunately with a user base of 77m people, it is really hard to offer something for everyone."

That's perfectly fair enough. When Xbox Live went down -- a service we pay for -- all consumers got was crappy Undertow, with no choice in the matter. I think Sony did well with its offer, and this is coming from someone who has either played or doesn't care about the particular games available.








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SkullLeader's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/17/2011 08:03
SkullLeader
Firstly, I support Sony here. Fuck the self-entitled whiny douchenozzles who are impossible to please.

That said, FUCK METACRITIC.
ManWithNoName's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/17/2011 08:05
ManWithNoName
It is impossible to please everyone. Sony can not offer games from third parties, and even if they offered all games they own, there would still be people complaining. But hey, they could just be offering crap XMB themes, but it is offering some great games. And also all the other stuff we are going to get.
Clance's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/17/2011 08:08
Clance
Can't believe these have such a high metacritic with Jim "I hate Sony" Sterling lurking in the shadows to review them.
Keystone's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/17/2011 08:09
Keystone
Snarfsnarf... snarf.
MailOrderClone's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/17/2011 08:09
MailOrderClone
Some people just aren't going to be happy with anything short of cash and a handy. But, hey, I'm getting Super Stardust and Wipeout for free out of this deal, so I have nothing but good things to say about Sony's handling of this little episode.
Riku3008's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/17/2011 08:10
Riku3008
Whiners gonna whine.
hestar's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/17/2011 08:10
hestar
I wished they offered a RPG of some kind up that's the only reason why I can see ppl getting mad a LITTLE.I mean even if you own all the game you're still gonna get the psn+ games that are free,for.....free..Some people just like bitching.
SakuRedux's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/17/2011 08:12
SakuRedux
I'm just shocked that Jim isn't ripping on Sony. Nothing against you Jim, it's a nice change of pace.
Pencoin's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/17/2011 08:16
Pencoin
I own three ofthe games so I'm stuck with Dead Nation and Wipeout. It's okay for people to be disappointed but alot of people go too far. I wonder if to can claim Ps3 games and Psp games?
Vincent Pavey's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/17/2011 08:16
Vincent Pavey
Everyone should just do what I did if they own all of them. Sell two of them. Get the trade-in money. Keep the games. ..I sold Infamous, will be picking Infamous and Wipeout and made myself £5
SunRa73's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/17/2011 08:18
SunRa73
So. Many. Weeping. Vaginas.

@Pencoin: Yep, you get 2 for each platform.
wickedsickzombie's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/17/2011 08:19
wickedsickzombie
I would've liked to see ModNation Racers be one of the choices for the PS3 games instead on one of the PSP, but can't really complain. I don't really care for any of the choices but what Sony is offering is pretty generous IMO
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/17/2011 08:21
Sexualchocolate
You know what, i've been wanting Dead Nation, and I've only played InFamous at a buddies, so I'll get those for sure.

I'm also stoked that i can grab LBP and ModNation for mah PSPgo, I've been really quite wanting both of those but haven't been able to justify the price just yet. FREE works quite nicely!

So yeah, whiners gonna whine.

I'd like to see any company please 77 million people with a free gift without bankrupting themselves.
tuoman's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/17/2011 08:22
tuoman
I like what they put together, I don't own any of them, wish Oddworld was in there though.
B-Radicate's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/17/2011 08:22
B-Radicate
People are ungrateful assholes. That's all there is to it.

As for me, I am more than impressed with what they have on offer. I didn't expect them to go around handing out brand new titles. That being said, I did hear a lot of people say they were surprised Warhawk wasn't on offer to sort of pull the same maneuver offering inFamous does: getting people interested in the upcoming sequel.

Other than that business decision, though, I can't be too upset, seeing as I don't own any single one of the titles on offer and I'm getting four free games out of the deal.
smoger's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/17/2011 08:24
smoger
It's generous of them to offer the games, but the only thing that really matters is that identity protection.. which I've still not heard anything about other than that we're supposed to get an email about it.

Any time now guys.
KingSigy's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/17/2011 08:24
KingSigy
Sony did do well with their offer. Hell, giving free users anything is hugely generous. I'm still shocked that they're giving away retail games, though.
Rockvillian's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/17/2011 08:25
Rockvillian
But I already HAVE a pony, father! /british accent
Gestault's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/17/2011 08:26
Gestault
25 days plus the loss of people's personal information does warrant a package as nice as the one Sony is offering, but to be fair, Xbox Live was down for only 24-48 hours, and people were given a month of Live and that game which wasn't as bad as people say.
Xeon121's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/17/2011 08:28
Xeon121
Its more than Generous I dont really game much on my ps3 just the occasional exclusive that takes my fancy. Now just because I have a psn account I rarely use I can now get 2 free games???? Amazing live which I use daily and pay for was down for a few says and Microsoft gave us undertow?? Lol
Frag-n-stein's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/17/2011 08:30
Frag-n-stein
SNARF
Jim Sterling's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/17/2011 08:36
Jim Sterling
"I'm just shocked that Jim isn't ripping on Sony. Nothing against you Jim, it's a nice change of pace."

Sony did nothing to deserve being ripped on.

I guess that IS a nice change of pace, lately.
tr0tsky's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/17/2011 08:39
tr0tsky
I own everything except LBP, which I'm not really interested in, but that's life. Oh no, I already have good games to play, what a shame. At least they're trying.
samuraiedward's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/17/2011 08:41
samuraiedward
Look. All I want is free access to dlc to a game of my choice. Cause then I would choice all the Hyperdimension Neptunia.

That. Is. All. I. Want. Sony. So. Give. Me. That.
EmptySilence's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/17/2011 08:46
EmptySilence
So a FREE service goes down, not due to the fault of the company. They then offer up to four FREE games, a FREE subscription to a paid service, and people still bitch? Classy.
benjaxez's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/17/2011 08:49
benjaxez
will you still get this if you create a new psn id?
lewness's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/17/2011 08:56
lewness
@benjaxez: They did say you must have created the account on or before April 20 to be eligible.

Anyway, GOOD GOD PEOPLE. Give them a steak and they ask for cake.
Christopher Bowen's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/17/2011 08:58
Christopher Bowen
I would agree if I didn't think there was an ulterior motive to the games that Sony put up. The vast majority of what they put up was either 1) heavy in DLC (LBP, Modnation) or 2) put out there to sell a sequel (LBP, InFAMOUS, Killzone and I guess the archaeological Pursuit Force counts too). In fact, I think that Sony's entire mindset with this was "let's find a way to squeeze more revenue out of this", with the 30 day trial for PlayStation Plus and the games they selected.

That's what offends me, personally: the feeling that Sony is turning what is stated as a loyalty benefit into a chance to turn the screws on their users. It's the M.O. of both Sony and Microsoft, as shown through years, in some cases decades, of prior history in and outside the video game departments.
Konnery's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/17/2011 08:59
Konnery
@Emptysilence

Oh because God forbid people remember that PERSONAL INFORMATION WAS STOLEN
ctrain's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/17/2011 09:00
ctrain
"Some people just aren't going to be happy with anything short of cash and a handy" -MailOrderClone

I will now spend the rest of the week trying to use "cash and a handy" in conversation...at work.

I'm pumped for this. inFamous and Wipeout for me. I would have been fine if they just sent out an email acknowledging their failures, apologizing, and explaining steps they are taking to prevent the problem from happening again. This is gravy. Delicious, creamy, flavorful gravy.

For those of you freaked out over your personally identifying information being compromised.....do you have any idea how often your government allows this information to be compromised?? At least for those of you in the U.S. No, you probably aren't aware, and it's because they don't bother to tell you.
wutang4ever's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/17/2011 09:02
wutang4ever
Its a pretty good lineup of games. I am one of those people who own most of those games already but is it Sony's fault I own those games? sheesh
Everyday Legend's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/17/2011 09:03
Everyday Legend
I'm going to be copping inFamous and LBP for free.

Sony, haters gonna hate. You did right by your userbase here, and that's an honest statement I'd like you to hear from me, someone who's done an awful lot of Sony-bashing as of late.

You did well with the selections, you really showed off the brand and got some solid exclusives out there for free. That's a fanrastic way to apologize, and honestly, all companies could learn a thing or two from the way you've apologized with these offerings.
GiHubb's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/17/2011 09:05
GiHubb
I don't agree, I have 4 out of the 5 games, and they could have easily refunded one of the downloadable games. So as I already own both Dead Nation and Super Stardust, they could've refunded one of these purchases.
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/17/2011 09:07
Sexualchocolate
Also, the free games are ON TOP of all the free games you'll get with the extra + subscription!

Not to mention current + users get 60 days free! (30 days for new sign ups)

Also, I wonder if you can grab the 4 games on a UK account, then flip over to the US account and grab 4 more, then even perhaps see what the welcome package is for the japanese accounts! - Crosses fingers.
Mr Andy Dixon's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/17/2011 09:07
Mr Andy Dixon
@Sexualchocolate

"I'd like to see any company please 77 million people with a free gift without bankrupting themselves."

Sure they could; just give people a PSN gift card equivalent to the games they're offering and let them choose their own titles. Sony would be out the exact same amount of fake money, and they'd have happy consumers to boot.

Granted, I'm not one of the ones complaining, so maybe it wouldn't be that simple. (GAMERS!) But I'd think it would be a start...
Nelson M De Len's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/17/2011 09:07
Nelson M De Len
@Vincent Pavey

At first when I saw the package I was disappointed since I own all of them. Then I was glad cause now my friends can join me in Dead Nation and LBP. Now i feel even better knowing that I can do what you just recommended.
Christopher Bowen's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/17/2011 09:09
Christopher Bowen
@Sexualchocolate

Bear in mind that once PlayStation+ expires, those free games go away.
skudfisher's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/17/2011 09:12
skudfisher
When Xbox Live went down and they offered Undertow I already owned it (I buy a LOT of XBLA games) so I just called them up and asked if I could get another game... and they gave me Microsoft Points to buy whatever I wanted.
StealthMaster's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/17/2011 09:17
StealthMaster
I can get why people would be upset for having the games already, But just don't bitch about the deal. This is overly generous.
llort het's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/17/2011 09:18
llort het
@mrandydixon

I don't think it's quite that easy. Since Sony owns little big planet, it doesn't really cost Sony anything to give it away for free. On top of that they just sign deals with a couple of third parties To give away a select few old games. That's easily less than giving up to 40 dollars worth of credit to 77 million people. In that second case, Sony wouldn't lose money if people used that credit on first party games, but it would cost Sony real life money if people spent it on other games
KieranD's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/17/2011 09:18
KieranD
Offering inFamous is still a shameless marketing ploy for the sequel, even if it is a good game. Same for LittleBigPlanet, really.

I don't see why they didn't just give us PSN credit. Maybe there's some big difference for them, but I'd rather have had £20 of pretend money chucked my way than some games, most of which I already own.
Felix Kyo Grnewald's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/17/2011 09:18
Felix Kyo Grnewald
Seriously, those guy should sell their Playstation 3 as soon as possible, get an XBox 360 and then pay for the online services every damn month, 'cause Sony owes you nothing. What about the 30 days of Playstation+? Don't they count as well? I bet that the next update/ updates (depending on where you live) will feature newer games.
Isay Isay's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/17/2011 09:19
Isay Isay
@mrandydixon

That's dangerous. If someone created 5 different PSN IDs, are they entitled to 5 times the credit? Plus, if that fake money is used to buy a 3rd party game, would the publisher see any profit from it?

It might have been interesting for Sony to have physically mailed out vouchers for 1 to 2 Greatest Hits titles of your choice instead since your address could be confirmed.
manasteel88's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/17/2011 09:20
manasteel88
C'mon Jim.

When Xbox Live went down none of my personal information was reported stolen. Plus the service still worked sporadically.

I don't really understand why people keep bringing that up as if they followed the exact same situation.

Live went down and I couldn't play games online, PSN went down and I needed to change all my credit cards and passwords for things that had little to do with my PS3. There is a little bit of a difference.
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/17/2011 09:26
Sexualchocolate
@MrAndy - Good point, but I bet they've had a fine balancing act to do with this.

77 Million x (say, about) £15 in PSN credit is a fuck load of money. A serious fuck load. I'm not 100% on how publishing works on the PSN either but that money would end up having to go to the 3rd parties owning the games downloaded at some point, or at least a part of it.

However this way, they can literally scrap the revenue on set 1st party titles for 30 days, no doubt destroy future revenue on those titles too, but still it's gonna be a whole lot less than paying out literally hundreds of millions of pounds/dollars in what is esentially real money.

Like I say I don't know how exactly the publishing deal for PSN works, but i'm pretty sure the money doesn't all go to Sony, like it doesn't work like a regular stock holding shop. Shit's gotta be paid for and 77 million people is a fuckload of people to give even $1 to.


@Christopher Bowen (hey I know someone IRL called Christopher Bowen) - The full games do go when your plus subscription finishes, which is a bummer if you're not planning on keeping it going. However the hefty discounts, DLC, themes and other stuff are all yours to keep forever more as far as I know.
Korolev's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/17/2011 09:26
Korolev
Yes, it is unfortunate for those who do own all the games given away. I myself own all the GOOD games on that list, leaving me with such schlock as "Dead Nation", which, from what I've heard, isn't very good.
Watts's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/17/2011 09:27
Watts
People will never be grateful. You give them a free beer, they'll take it, but also demand the finest of wines made from God's sweat. Also the thunderkats remake is going to suck so much.
Ninjabunny's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/17/2011 09:30
Ninjabunny
@christopher bowed. They're a corporation. Deal with that fact. I own these DLC "heavy" games and haven't purchased any of their DLC.

Also, owning all but dead nation, I still applaud Sony on the quality offered in this selection. I'm just glad we can get back to gaming as usual
Mr Andy Dixon's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/17/2011 09:34
Mr Andy Dixon
@all

Those are good points.
Senisan's Avatar - Comment posted on 05/17/2011 09:37
Senisan
I'm riking the serection. Good on them for offering pretty decent titles.
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