And that doesn't bode well, does it?
I hate to draw the comparison, mostly because the Sega Saturn is my favorite game system of all time. But the parallels between what Sony's Kaz Hirai is saying lately compared to what Sega said about the Saturn back in the day is kind of scary.
This comes from a Sega Saturn white paper:
...growth won't be possible on competing systems that offer a simpler architecture. It may be easier in some ways for developers to create programs for the competition because there's less to learn and work with from a technology standpoint -- but that means that developers are much more likely to run up against the limits of the system in a short span of time.
And this from Kaz Hirai's mouth:
"We don't provide the 'easy to program for' console that [developers] want, because 'easy to program for' means that anybody will be able to take advantage of pretty much what the hardware can do, so then the question is what do you do for the rest of the nine-and-a-half years?"
At insertcredit, they point out that while that logic is flawed, following it could mean that the PS3 would end up being my favorite system. Nah. I don't see that.
Here's one parallel I do see: both Sega then and Sony now are full of sh*t. Another parallel? Both systems cost too much right out of the gate.
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8:00 PM on 02.05.2009
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What Im really wanting to know is where is Sony's answer to Segata Sanshiro.
Pretentious, much?
Also, I like the gallery ad pic.
I'm sorry, are you still here?
Yes please.
He didn't say it was the best system. He said it was his favorite. Read.
I thought the Saturn was an absolutely amazing system, but only if you lived in Japan. It was actually kind of a horrible system in the U.S., because we didn't get even half the awesome stuff that was available. The only reason I know about the Japanese Saturn goodness is because my friend imported one a while back, otherwise I wouldn't have known about any of it.
Also, didn't the Saturn fail as badly as it did here because of the PS1? Oh, the irony!
@mrplow8 real fighters use arcade sticks. the dual shock 3 d-pad is atrocious for fighters.
problem here is that blu-ray is brand new. Developers didn't have nowhere near enough time to fool around and test with it...hence why most are straying away from it. Plus it costs a lot. It's obvious that if you don't have money to start your first big game project, the PS3 isn't the way to look.
and then look at all the games on the PS3. Sure most are for the "hardcore" or "non casual" crowd, but that strays the possible casual "I want more than just a blu ray player" crowd. Plus the PS3's high price when it first dropped...
so yea. It's hard to compare these 2 systems when they're phailing for different reasons in the end.
Sony probably should have just found a good way to use existing technology to make a really pimped out gaming rig instead of developing the Cell and Blu Ray and putting all of those expensive technologies in one system.
Also, as much as I love the PS3, that really is an idiotic comment from Sony up there.
http://forums.gametrailers.com/thread/724761?page=1
Bad move on Sony's part? Yes and no. They have the most powerful system out there, so if any developer decides to put its effort into it, the absolute best games will be on the PS3 (Heavy Rain, Uncharted 2, Killzone 2, etc.,)
Big problem with Sony is that when MS cut the Xbox 360 prices by $100 bucks, Sony packaged Uncharted with a 160gb PS3 and upped their price by $100. Sony needs to release the 80gb (or the 40gb model) for 299$ then they can really compete.
Which console has an arcade stick on its default controller? The answer is none of them. If you want to play with an arcade stick you have to buy it no matter which console you own. But if you want to play with a dpad, the PS3 wins because it has a good dpad on the default controller that comes with the console.
"We don't want the PS3 to be easy to develop for because we want to be sure that every game (ie. both of them) for the first 3 years is a piece of fucking shit"
Man, I try so hard to keep waving my Sony fanboy flag, but for fucks' sake...
When the PS2 was king this flew. When futuristic HD games are now being backported to yesterday's graphic standard because the general public apparently doesn't give a shit they have a problem.
I love my PS3. I think it's a beautiful thing. Moar games and less talk plz.
Did you just censor the word "crap?" :P
http://clgamer.com/2009/02/history-repeats-itself-it-seems/
That having been said, I agree that Kaz Hirai is ridiculous and needs to close his yap before they silence him like they did Kutaragi.
Untapped potential is not necessarily a good thing, as any original Xbox owner can testify.
Make, you know, GOOD GAMES?
*Comment may be overly grouchy due to lack of coffee so far this morning.
The PS3, on the other hand, just costs too much. It's a 3DO, not a Saturn.
i used to jerk off to that ad youve included.
Also, @Smang: Yeah, INORITE? It's like my Gamestop has this WHOLE WALL of games for the PS3! Whodathunkit!
My PS3 was bought as a MGS4 bundle, which was the system seller for me. If it wasn't that game, it would have been Valkyria Chronicles. Little Big Planet is a blast. Heavy Rain later this year would have probably been a system seller for me also.
Only thing interesting I see on 360 in the future is the new Star Ocean, which may make me buy the 360, but looking forward I may buy just the arcade only for that one game then let it rot/sell it/something.
Also, the PS3 is selling at a better rate WW than the 360 since launch, and that's with 2 cheaper competing consoles. It is also sellling at over 2x the rate of the PS1 since launch, which went on to sell over 100mil worldwide.
Considering all chips stacked against Sony (media bias mainly), I believe their 10 year lifecycle for each console will end up winning out in the end.
The no games thing should certainly be put to death.
I own both, but the 360 has Xbots, who will defend their system without fail. See, Sony fans have been around the bend and seen some disappointment; Xbots are getting to that point. I mean, how many Red Ring reports and disc scratching systems do you have to have before people realize Microsoft doesn't give a shit about you?
I will admit, I love my 360. However, my main problem with Microsoft is that they completely abandoned my Original Xbox. 100% abandoned. No games, no updates, no more systems sold in case mine breaks.
Sony is going to support the PS3 for 9 years. The PS2 is STILL(!) coming out with NEW games! I will support that! All Sony needs to do is reduce the price tag, market to the casual gamer, and bam; they can have great success again. What's happening to Sony is a shame. The whole corporation shouldn't be blamed for a few executive's decision to not have a price cut.