8:00 AM on 12.06.2006
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Ishaan
Did Sony simply follow in Nintendo's footsteps and copy their motion-sensing idea while developing the SIXAXIS for the PS3? We don't know ... that's one argument that will probably never reach a conclusion. Has Sony copied Nintendo in the past? Definitely. Will they do it again? Most definitely.
If I could direct your attention to this page here.
An input device providing users with a pointing capability includes a sender portion and a receiver portion. The sender portion is adapted to be manipulated by a user to specify a target point within a target area. The sender portion projects a light beam including a pattern on to the target area. A receiver portion includes one or more sensor units located in or near the target area. At least some of the sensor units receive a portion of the light beam regardless of the location of the target point within the target area. A processing unit in the receiver portion analyzes the portions of the light beam received by one or more sensor units to determine an attribute of the target point. The attribute can be the location or relative motion of the target point. The receiver portion may be integrated with a display device.
Now, this could just be some sort of a media remote for the PS3. They did say there were firmware updates coming that would enhance the PS3's media capabilities. But then again, if you hit that link above, this is what the first few lines say:
A PS4 will be launched by Sony but not until at least 2010 claims the Vice President of Technology for Sony Computer Entertainment Europe, Paul Holman.
What will happen between then and now is that Sony will introduce a series of firmware upgrades that will give the PS3 more media centre capability while allowing for the introduction of third party applications and hardware "Such as interactive controllers" similar to the Nintendo Wii he said.
Way to be subtle, Sony. I can't wait to check back for the comments on this.
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looks like Sony doesn't really know what they want only thing that they do know is that they wanna copy something. That shows you how much trust Sony has in its own product.
I just filed a new patent, too. It's gonna be badass.
It's called the wheel. Totally my idea. I got one for a thing I like to call "chair" too. Don't tell anybody. See, you sit in it, and...
1,000,000,000 customers -1.
When nintendo is the real copy cat they weren't even the first with motion sensing controls.
And for all we know that could be a light gun.
Also
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/1998/may98/devicepr.mspx
http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Sidewinder-Freestyle-Game-A17-00001/dp/B00004Z729
I guess I should say something "STFU Sony hating noobs" but I don't think that's needed. :)
How much stupid crap is going to be half ass pumped out if I do keep it?
But Resistance is calling me....
Someone else already pointed this out, but I'll just throw in my confirmation of what they said. This patent is the opposite of how the Wii works. The patent says that the "sensor bar" would detect where the remote is pointed. The Wii works the other way. The sensor bar just emits light. The remote is actually sensing where those lights are, and then transmitting those coordinates back to the console. Nintendo should have filed a patent for both technologies. They had to have known Sony would steal this idea.
and who uses joypads or whatever for computer games anyways?
maxx77, what do you speak of when you say Nintendo and MS have things in the pipeline?
Heck you can extend it to games and point out that Gears of War is a ripoff of Wolfenstein, etc, etc, etc.
May 27, 2005 was when it was filed. The Wii-mote was revealed in September that year. - some 4-5 months later.
I'm saying nobody but Nintendo knew about this when this patent was filed - not to mention the fact that this patent may very well be referring to their multimedia controller, or any other number of things.
What the hell?
@arcthemonkey
I wasn't attacking you, just trying to understand the point you were making. I could have worded my post differently, but what fun would that be... :)
The thing is, Sony's rep of late has been shit. And if they start shelling out Wiimote-like devices right now, it isn't going to help their reputation one bit. Sure, I like the idea of having motion-sensing AND "next-gen" graphics, but I don't know how well that'll work for the PS3, considering that developing for the platform is already hard enough.
Also you can NOT patent ideas or designs you can patent "METHODS" thats all, if sony (or anyone) finds a way to imitate the Wii with a different Method, they legally can do it. And believe me THEY will, MS is also researching on a "control XY wand" or something like that.
For us gamers it only means a Wiimote with better graphics and less "family friendly games" so Im all up to it. Just think ten seconds WiiMote + gears of wars + mgs4 and then we will talk.
In all fairness Nintendo pretty much knew this was going to happen, so they probably ahead ways to counter it. As in keeping the lowest console price (a $100 Wii? it could happen) and targetting a broader audience. If the Wii loses the motion sensing exclusity (which pretty much they already had) it wont be the end of the world for them. (specially due their DS income)
P.s. Dont expect this to hit anytime soon though, other companies wont risk on this decission (since Nintendo offered as a pioneer) so the system will have to prove "stable on a financial basis" to get the green light. Expect this to hit sometime next year (maybe xmas), after the fiscal year results are in.
The problem comes when Nintendo says screw this we're going 3rd party and Microsoft pull the plug. You then end up with a company in charge with no imagination and little enthusiasm to push gaming along the evolutionary scale.
On the subject of the tech, Nintendo never said it was new, actually they said it had been around for a while, just that nobody had tried to do what they were doing with it before. Which given the pointer & motionsensing is fairly true if you cut them some slack.