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Sony's PR man wants to educate you photo

As far as Dave Karraker, the man behind the media curtain at Sony is concerned, all the bad publicity that Sony has faced is all just one big misunderstanding on our part. Luckily for you, he's ready to fill those educational gaps you've acquired, for a cool $600 or so.

During a "shoot the bull" session with Gamepro, Karraker was quick to point out that  a)The media doesn't play fair, and  b)The PS3 really is a bargain.  

More of the Sony spindoctor, after the jump.

You see, it's all a matter of perspective, says Karraker
I am confounded by people who say they are true gamers but all they do is look for the negatives in a system, or a company, or in the industry in general. Some media, in particular, are just too easily caught up in all the bashing. It feeds on itself, and to what end? How do you benefit the real gamer by bashing on something? These are very smart people who can see through most of the BS.
A lot of the perceptions are not justified and seem fueled by people who don't have all the facts or have some kind of axe to grind. I think you would be hard-pressed to find anyone who wouldn't say PS3 is an amazing piece of technology. Yeah, the price of PS3 is higher than other system, but look at what you get - the Cell processor, Blu-ray Disc, built-in hard drive, HDMI 1080p, Wi-Fi, the SixAxis. That is a lot of truly cutting-edge technology in one box.

Now before you get all teary eyed and make a bee-line to the shady part of town to sell a kidney in the hopes of raising enough cash for the goodies, keep in mind that all he is doing is giving the PStriple the good old PR spin by focusing on what the Blu-ray player could be in the future. Trouble is, we all live in the present, so dropping that kind of cash for a system that has nothing at the moment game-wise to set it apart from the pack isn't all that attractive .

I hate to sound like Captain Obvious here, but what Sony needs to focus on is bowling us over with a series of great games -- a feat not seen since the PS2 days. The recent Gamer's Day was certainly a step in the right direction, but it's hardly enough to keep any momentum going.

The PS3 is going to take hits for its lavish price, but nothing makes that dollar amount sting less than knowing that you are dropping loot on a machine that offers an experience you can't find anywhere else. With the news that highly anticipated titles are either going multi-platform or have been pushed back to later dates, the PS3 is looking more and more like an expensive condo with no tenants.

With all due respect to Dave (I'm sure he's a great guy), maybe it would be wiser to focus that educational spin internally to Sony, since customers already know what they want in a game machine. The ball is in Sony's court, and it's up to them to give us a multitude of reasons to part with that hard-earned dollar. If the games are that compelling and the PS3 is as great as Sony wants us to believe it is, then we need to start seeing the magic sooner, rather than later.

[Via Gamepro]


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Jim Sterling's Avatar
Jim Sterling at 05/21/2007 22:27
I really hate it when PR people are all "Oh you shouldn't say mean things about us that just means you're ignorant." Take your damn criticism. You deserve it. Nobody in the press are saying the PS3 is garbage, they're just pointing out the problems it has. If the PS3 was as perfect as he's claiming, it would be selling a fuck of a lot better.
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Natedizzle at 05/21/2007 22:30
The only problem with the PS3 right now is the lack of games, PERIOD .
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jimjo at 05/21/2007 22:35
too bad the cell is ahead of its gen, they shoulda saved that baby for ps4 and just focused on shitting out as many pretty games as possible instead of giving developers an Abacus to figure the damn thing out.
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B-Radicate at 05/21/2007 22:37
apparently i'm too stupid to understand that there are zero games worth $600 dollars yet. and there aren't any movies worth that much, either. thanks for the edumacation, sony man.
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lowercaseluke at 05/21/2007 22:38
"That is a lot of truly cutting-edge technology in one box."

Great. Now go make some games with it.
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CagedZero at 05/21/2007 22:55
I didnt know that Bush and sony had the same pr people it can easily be written like this.

I am confounded by people who say they are true Americans but all they do is look for the negatives in Bush's presidency, in Iraq or the government as a whole. Some media, in particular, are just too easily caught up in all the bashing. It feeds on itself, and to what end? How do you benefit the real Americans by bashing on something? These are very smart people who can see through most of the libersl spin.

Adamska's Avatar
Adamska at 05/21/2007 23:08
Not a hint of shame in that piece of PR101. Deny deny deny.

What problem?
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908peruvian at 05/21/2007 23:16
i can't wait to hear in 4 years that
The Cell Processor 2
will ALSO be ahead of its time !!!

and all that stuff he mentioned
-the Cell processor, Blu-ray Disc, built-in hard drive, HDMI 1080p, Wi-Fi, the SixAxis_

DONT MATTER AT ALL
if there are NO GAMES!!!!
skankerzero's Avatar
skankerzero at 05/21/2007 23:24
idiot.. tech means nothing, give us games.
brainderailment's Avatar
brainderailment at 05/21/2007 23:32
Apparently none of you noticed the 50+ games coming out this year alone. You all are morons, you all need to get your heads out of your asses because this time last year the 360 only had 4 more games then the ps3 has now. Yet, less going for it than Sony has coming. Plenty of first party titles coming out in the fall and winter. And nothing lacking in 3rd party either.
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Artadius at 05/21/2007 23:32
Don't feel bad PS3 owners... at least you kick freaking ass on Folding @ Home.
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BluDesign at 05/21/2007 23:48
@CagedZero

Yes, because all media is liberal based. Sorry it doesn't fit your neo-con lifestyle. Best of luck to you. I hear Michael Moore has a new movie coming out soon, better jump on that.

@brainderailment

You got out again.
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BluDesign at 05/21/2007 23:56
@cagedzero

Additionally, your point about being critical of america, are people not allowed to be critical of something to be labeled as someone who "supports" an ideal?

Do you think the US colonists were going to institute change from being a British colony back in the 1770's by agreeing with the British? (no offense Jim, whoever the fuck you are...)

People who can be critical and embrace the ideals of our country are some of the best citizens, because they keep the powers that be from abusing their powers for their own agenda. Or maybe you want Hillary Clinton elected so she can slap a 25% income tax on your paycheck. It's okay to be critical. It's your constitutional right.

(/soapbox)
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joeisremy at 05/22/2007 00:03
everyone has to wait for mgs4 so they can figure out how to make real games.
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Crunshii at 05/22/2007 00:08
lol impatient people. I see sony putting allot more into the gaming biz than m$ n nin put together. They willing to take risks of advanced games while xbox n wii just want to sell ur average games.

its called balls.

oh but wait let me get a elite system for 500$buckorz! yea now im more advanced than a PS3! dam str8 yalz, hey... wheres my hd dvd... wtf?
Crunshii's Avatar
Crunshii at 05/22/2007 00:11
@ dvddesign, I honestly never wanted to vote in my life, cuz I know w/e we pick is trash, but with nicer facelift.

I hope we pick 2 people who are making the most sense running up there.

Mike Gravel or Ron Paul. The rest are just real trash.
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donkeykong at 05/22/2007 00:22
@dvddesign, I don't think you got the joke.

@brainderailment, when everyone else disagrees with you, it's better to show evidence supporting your claims and not call us morons with our heads up our asses. I'm not convinced I'm a moron so I'm not likely to believe anything else you say. Furthermore I've never seen bashing here on Destructoid and I've been reading since a couple weeks after the site came into existence. Please don't make it bad.
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Ambulance-Y at 05/22/2007 03:21
@CagedZero
i'd hate to bring politics up here but what GOOD has bush done? rallying most of the nation into two wars that have made close to no progress what so ever? basically all we've done is dethrone/kill sadam but we still cant find a man who needs a kidney dialasis machine to live, who's family has close ties to the bush family? OH or the failed no kid left behind policy? yes lets give schools more money based on their test grades, so that the schools who need the money most get screwed. makes since. oh or don't forget the udder lack of border security where we are going to let them stay here so we have people to fill the jobs that need filled despite high numbers of unemployment as is. failed response to hurricane katrina cuz "he didn't know how serious the whole hurricane thing is". or the troop surge that seems to be working out so well MORE soldiers are dying and are getting kidnapped too!!! that troop surge is working fine cuz now the ones who aren't being blown up can look for the missing ones
what good has bush done exactly? i'd like to know that one cuz i sure don't know anything good thats come from him. maybe the press focuses on the negative cuz thats all there is.
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wardrox at 05/22/2007 04:20
"These are very smart people who can see through most of the BS."

"but look at what you get - the Cell processor"

ZOMG! Cell! I heard that can do a bajillion pixel shade reder-things per second!

It is true, smart people can see through the BS.
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Usedtabe at 05/22/2007 06:19
@Crunshii:
What advanced games are Sony bringing to the table? Blu-ray, which is just a larger storage device? Also, what average games are MS selling? The same games that are/going to be ported to the PS3? Seriously, it's okay to like the PS3, but don't be a dumb dick and not recognize it's faults(price+no games to justify price ATM). All 3 have numerous faults, yet it only seems to be the Sony fanboys who are dicks about their "precious". Get a life, it's a game machine who's only innovation is a new storage format. Whoop-dee fucking doo.
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iliketuna at 05/22/2007 06:52
the Cell processor, - best looking, most advanced looking game out now is gears of war, and its out for 360. there's nothing on ps3 that makes it look significantly better than the other systems

Blu-ray Disc, - its a cheap bd movie player... i'll give it that

built-in hard drive, - 1up on wii, still got nothing on 360

HDMI 1080p, - are there any games out that are actually worth playing in 1080p? either way this is good for movies

Wi-Fi, - my dslite has wi-fi

the SixAxis. - is not even as good as the dual shock let alone the next gen controllers!

conclusion: not much of a game system, but a really cheap way to watch pirates of the caribbean on blu ray!
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Crunshii at 05/22/2007 08:03
"(price+no games to justify price ATM)"

Correct, at the moment, now I expect you to take back ur little post b4 this years end. Thing is that you still complaining about the games due to Sony/IBM/Toshiba hasnt teached Game developers how to use the cell correctly and full power, and thats what their doing currently, takes time buddy.

I would re-read brainderailment's comment and stfu if I were a sony-basher. M$ has only 1 really good game (Game the entire world should play), Wii has 0, PS3 has 0.

thats the way I look at it, so people complain about the Wii cuz its so last-gen is not funny, people complain about PS3 cuz its too expensive and supposedly *unnecesary* crap it has, and people complain about 360 cuz it brings more red rings than Sonic can get yellow, fake HDMI (not true 1080p), 3 friggin systems with no clue which one to get, why do I have to pick 3 systems and why is it that the 500$ system (ELITE) doesnt even come with a friggin HD-DVD player? wtf, and if I want to play with my friends and fully feel the experience of xboxlive i need to dish out a additional 50$ a year to do so.

Nintendo has been impecable at family games which i occacionaly enjoy, so even dough the wii is last gen im sure they will come out with fun games, But from what I see, Nintendo might head the way of the SEGA cuz I dont see them making another console if the Wii was the best they could come out with. PS3, just like PS2, had a terrible start, but will eventually be read like a book and next-gen games will be dropping likes flies, and M$ will just squeeze the juice of 360, till PS3 starts doing good, and when it does, then they will release the xbox720 with hd-dvd player inside, just to compete when sony starts kicking ass. oh not to mention drop the whole support of 360 to the trash and focus on 720, so all you 360 owners might wanna start making a tomb for it and save up additional 400$ for a newer system (with 4 different consoles to pick from!), dont believe me? wheres the xbox1 support now? came out much later than the PS2, yet i dont see new games coming out for it or still selling the system like the ps2?


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Jamesways at 05/22/2007 08:32
I guess that really depends on what you like to play Crunshii, IMO, I own 7 or 8 great games for the 360.

I could really care less for a dvd format. Don't need an HD DVD or a blu-ray player right now. I care about games.

And no, I'm not an xbot or xboy or whatever the hell you call them. I loved my ps1 and 2, and I'll gladly get a ps3, when some good games are out, and hopefully they drop the price a bit.

No debate about the current gen, MS is moving on, the reason why ps2s are still selling like hotcakes is that a lot of people aren't willing to shell out 600 bucks right now.
If your kid needs a system, ps2s are cheap, and there are a ton of good games for it yet as you said.
iliketuna's Avatar
iliketuna at 05/22/2007 08:43
@ crunshii
what i dont get about ps3 supporters is that you always talk about the future, and how ps3 is going to be kicking ass. why not just buy a ps3 when it does actually kick ass and not now when its sucking balls? why spend a ton of money now for something sub par, when it will be better and cheaper in the future?
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CagedZero at 05/22/2007 10:13
jesus christ, i was being sarcastic. i was tring to show how stupid pr person is by defending a $600 that cant get me laid or a least get me a handjob. and while making fun of of the idiots on the right.

ps i fucking hate bush
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TheStripe at 05/22/2007 11:17
Wow, I'll be brief.

Bush Prez = Best Economy in the History of the Free World. How else is unemployment at an all-time low and the Dow at at all time-high?

PS3 games = not any good ones. Who cares if they're library is almost as big as the 360's? For 120% of the price, I expect 120% of the library, and for all of it to not suck. Unfortunately, other than Resistance, there isn't a single reason yet to own a PS3. If there were, I'd own one. I'm really hoping the system does well, but I'm not paying $600 for a console to play MGS:4. All the other tight new titles that used to be Sony exclusives will be available on 360. DMC4? Yup, that's on Xbox. Assassin's creed? Yup, that too. Sabateur? Yup. Dead Rising? Oh wait, you CAN'T get that on Sony's $600 box.

Wii Games = Zelda is a great game. I'm sure you Sony Fanboys love to discount that fact without actually playing it, because you're too mature and hardcore to own a wii or a gamecube (those are kiddie/geriatric systems, don't you read destructoid?). I've also played more than a couple incarnations of Madden, SSX, and Tiger Woods, and my favorite versions of all those games are on the Wii. Yeah, they're definitely not as pretty, (especially madden, ick) but they're a shitload more fun. But maybe I'm actually an old man trapped in a 25 year old body.
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DoctorEuphony at 05/22/2007 11:58
i came here looking for specific PS fanboys and got my money's worth. and it's interesting...b/c this lot will be the first to post in a Wii thread backing up the haterade yet become sniveling apolegists when $ony is attacked.

now that said. i had hope for motor storm being the one game that'd make me interested in this system. lack of multi player and less than a handful of stages later, i'm really disappointed. Heavenly Sword looks tight, but one game's not gonna sway me to buy a system. and, i'm sorry , but Home and some silly platforming game like Little Big Plantet ain't gonna make people who are hardcore or casual gamers thrown down that kinda coin. Sony fanboys being the exception.
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DoctorEuphony at 05/22/2007 11:59
*apologists.

Damn I want an edit button here :(
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Joseph Leray at 05/22/2007 12:49
I don't even see what the argument is about -- sounds to me like you guys agree.

Usedtabe said: "price+no games to justify price ATM"

Crunshii said: "Correct, at the moment, now I expect you to take back ur little post b4 this years end."

I hate to break it to you, guys, but these two positions are easily reconcileable. Will the PS3 be a great machine? Yes, I firmly believe so. Is now a good time to buy a PS3? No.

This whole discussion has been one huge circle. Why the hate?
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SlavedHeart at 05/22/2007 13:19
I've said it before on countless forums... owning a PS3 has made me feel like I own a GameCube. Heck, there are more games out for my Wii... and don't anyone get on the whole 'But PS2 Games...' If I wanted to play PS2 games, I'd have kept my PS2 hooked up in the living room, instead of giving it to my son...
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Joe Burling at 05/22/2007 13:19
I think the PS3 will definitely shape up over time, but let’s be realistic here. At this rate, it will take the Wii a full year (after its release) to catch up in sales with the 360, and the Wii is the hottest selling next gen system. Let’s just say the PS3 picks up momentum this holiday season, and even despite the extremely high price tag, starts selling like the Wii does. Assuming that perfect scenario happens, it would take the PS3 about a full year to catch up in sales with the 360 (of course, in order to achieve that, not only would demand have to dramatically increase for the PS3 but also dramatically decrease for the Wii60, but let’s just say this actually happens). By the time the PS3 has caught up with the 360, it’s holiday 2008, but more realistically you’d probably be looking at around mid-2009. The 360 came out in 2005. At that point, the next next-gen console is right around the corner.

The PS3 will definitely get better and better. I’m already seeing it with talks of rumble, better online, more games, and a possible price drop. However, that price is a MAJOR issue. Just because you can afford it, doesn’t mean everyone can. The magic price point is $199, and the PS3 has a LONG way to go before it hits that. This isn’t an issue of whether the PS3 or the 360 is better; this is an issue of simple economics and math, and if you think the PS3 is going to catch up any time soon, you are living in La La Land. That’s my objective opinion.

Some media, in particular, are just too easily caught up in all the bashing. It feeds on itself, and to what end? How do you benefit the real gamer by bashing on something?

This I completely disagree with. If we, as consumers, aren’t vocal about the things we don’t like, then we won’t see changes. DK is trying to get the consumer to be quiet about the mistakes Sony has made so Sony can get into a more positive light. I say, fix your issues Sony, then we’ll talk. And next time, think about the consumer before you go and make a $900 console with no games (I don’t care if you want to win a format war).
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Usedtabe at 05/22/2007 13:24
@Orcist: I huat hate people who are dicks to defend their system of choice. being hypocritical I posted a dick statement, but not in defense of any certain system. They all have advantages and faults, but as I said earlier, it always seems to be the Sony fans who trash all the others without holding their system to the mirror.
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Christian at 05/22/2007 13:24
Let's call the following analogy the "Chicken Sandwich". Let's say Sony was a restaurant owner and we went into their establishment. We then ordered a chicken sandwich and were served up a mediocre, dry, tasteless sammich. When we ask to speak to the manager to ask for a different sandwich because this one is not any good, we are told "FUCK YOU, You wouldn't know a good chicken sandwich if it hit you in the face, THIS IS A DELICIOUS SANDWICH! FUCKING EAT OUR SANDWICH!"

Then again, I'm a fat guy and everything is about food.
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Ezruh at 05/22/2007 13:39
I wish that I could bullshit like that
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Jamesways at 05/22/2007 14:07
ahahaha. That just made my day Christian!
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Android8675 at 05/22/2007 16:24
Could also say that you order a sandwich from Sony and they give you the best sandwich you've ever laid eyes on. Thing is freaking huge! Has 3 chickens worth of meat, tons of veggies, and sauces, you're mouth is just watering thinking about it.

Then you take a bite and everything explodes out the backside of the sammich into the lap of your girlfriend.

Next time order the Chick-Wii-A... Chicken, Pickles, and Ketchup. Cheap, easy to eat and tastes amazing.
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brainderailment at 05/22/2007 17:22
I'm not bashing, I am showing that the ps3 is not behind in anyway. Did I say anything negative about the 360? nope, I am bashing the fanboys who constantly claim there aren't any games.
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iliketuna at 05/22/2007 17:43
we should probably be more specific...
there arent any games on ps3 that are worth playing...
there thats better! :>

and i'm hungry for some popeyes
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Spitfire747 at 05/22/2007 19:11
Cell Processor: A dumbed down one that is a bitch to program for. Congrats.
Blu-Ray: Expensive and DVD works just fine for now.
SUXASSES: I hate to use hateboy lingo, but seriously, what is there to be proud about here? A terrible attempt to copy the Wii's innovation? Come on!
HDMI: If you want HDMI, go 360 Elite. Seriously, HD component works fine too.
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Christian at 05/22/2007 23:46
Update: I just ate a 2 Pancake & Sausage links on a stick = Yum.
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SlavedHeart at 06/21/2007 11:39
@spitfire.. dude, join us in the modern world.. progress is inevetable... saying that DVD is fine is akin to voicing your support for VHS, it might work, but it was created with a limited lifespan IN MIND. Stop trying to stick the world in the past. Oh, and exactly what you espouce about our beloved ps3 is exactly what naysayers like you had to spout when the ps2 came out... and look how well it did...

The PS3 has MUCH better output than the 360Elective (i own both, don't think you can argue this point) and is designed with 5 to 10 years down the road in mind. The 360 will be a brick once the format war is decided on for movies... just the way it goes, all you xbots need to stop hateing on the 3 because it's better than your precious, and just realize that their might be a BD player in your favorite consoles future... Or at least just gloat over games like crackdown and bioshock instead of making yourselves look silly with failed technical knowledge.
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