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There is a very real reason why I don’t touch social MMOs. The people that live in them are a bit too weird for my personal tastes. I’m not talking about people who play to enjoy themselves, or buy property or even to discover others whose tastes might be comparable. I’m talking about the people that dress their avatars with bunny ears and refuse to use any variant of language other than "rabbit." If anything, one could easily say that there is an odd culture that accompanies these avatar driven games.

Thankfully, flying penises and furry costumes probably won’t be allowed in Home. If you fell off the bus on videogame news for the last year, Home is basically the Sony version of Second Life. Unlike Second Life though, Home restricts players to just walking around, conversing, and exploring the tools of the Sony dashboard in a 3D environment. Players will have the option to create unique avatars, decorate their own apartments and even watch trailers.

The reason I bring this up is that on our wonderful nation’s holiday, PSN director Eric Lampel tried to reassure PS3 owners that the oft-delayed Home will come out for real this fall. Unfortunately, despite Sony’s attempts to coddle my expectations, I feel that it may finally be time to just suck it up and say that Home could possibly blow.

Click on to allow me to elaborate.

I have to start out by saying that I am a happy PS3 owner, even in the lean times. I enjoy the fact that patch 2.4.1 will not brick my system, and I will probably even enjoy collecting Trophies whenever a developer decides to actually utilize the functionality. I especially enjoy how all of the PSN stuff is set up. When I turn on my PS3, I’m not being told about how amazing Battlefield: Bad Company is, nor am I forced to traverse a different ad every time I desire to switch to a task that I want to accomplish on the dashboard. Yet, this fall when Home comes out, I am afraid that may all change.

The simplicity of PSN is what draws me to the service. There is very little clutter and few distractions on the way to downloading whatever I desire. Home isn’t just an endeavor to be the one place where PS3 gamers can finally collide. It will be also utilized as a marketing tool, and heavily so. Just think of it this way. You create your avatar, complete with a pair of Nikes and an Old Navy Tee, and then traverse to your apartment furnished for free by Home Depot, with the option to buy more furniture from Ikea.

It could keep getting worse. You take your avatar outside the apartment and immediately differing retailers assault you. A GameStop is on the corner, pawning shitty mini-games. 3D Realms is across the street with an ad for Duke Nukem Forever stating “sometime this year.” The movie theaters where you can watch trailers all have commercials before they start. Or maybe someone could even walk up to you and offer you a product as a limited time offer.

These aren’t just the dreams of a scared editor. This is the realization of what Sony wants with Home. Sony wants a living, breathing version of Qore, set for eager people to consume.

If the bulk of that doesn’t worry you, then perhaps the clutter will. PSN is awesome because you can find what you need, when you want it. It’s much unlike the Live service where you have to sort through Shitty RC Fun-Fun Adventure and Kinda like Pacman but Isn’t before you can find N+ or Penny Arcade Adventures. Home could welcome in a ton of new content that neither I nor Sony is probably adequately prepared for. Will there be tight restrictions? Who has the qualifications to say that content created for Home users is not up to snuff?

As I mentioned previously, in Home, we’ll never have to worry about seeing an avatar with a penis for a face. What about a video of a guy with a penis for a face? How about a picture? Uploading pictures and videos have been confirmed for Home. While I am sure it will be policed just as heavily as YouTube, we all know that stuff falls through the cracks. Really creepy, gross or provocative things fall through the cracks on a daily basis. I really don’t want to see a grotesque thumbnail of a video anytime I peruse the user content for cool videos.

One of the things Eric Lempel said was that Home was going to be an interactive beta process. He even likened it to the way Google handled their Gmail client. While Gmail has always worked in some capacity, it took the service awhile to truly be superior to its competition. I don’t like the idea of any game, social networking tool or not, releasing in some format outside of finished. Unfinished means "open for exploits, bugs, crashes, patching, and lockouts." How exciting does that sound?

I really want Home to be a cool experience. I want to look forward to walking around in a perpetual environment and interacting with people between games. I’m just afraid that it isn’t going to happen. Between the ads, user-created content, and beta format, the software has quite a few cards stacked up against it. I think at this point, it may be safer to consider that Home could suck, instead of hope for its greatness.








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glentennis's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/09/2008 22:28
glentennis
i say its better than nothing. in fact, its a lot better than nothing. it will have its flukes, just because its impossible to make something like this without flukes, but it will still be enjoyable, not to mention free.
Crunshii's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/09/2008 22:31
Crunshii
Nice review brad, but just like many MMO's, home is no different. Sony will launch home with limited stuff to only continue to upgrade and better the service. Look at PSN one year ago and compare it to today. The amount of games, patches, downloads, services that to me has surpassed XBL to a sense.

So Home will be no different, yet people who like SecondLife/MMO's will be the early adopters, and once Sony brings cool exciting features (Like live pre-battle planning, watching live races on plasma screens, or a giant LBP character eating people at the movie theater) then the rest of the average players will jump in as well.
-PL-'s Avatar - Comment posted on 07/09/2008 22:37
-PL-
Home seems neat to me. That's about as strong as my feelings get about it, "neat". It doesn't seem like it will provide any real gameplay or lasting appeal outside of creating a character and setting up his/her living space. So, I'll probably put about 30 mins into it when it comes out, and forget about it in favor of MMO's that provide some gameplay like WoW.
superhobo's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/09/2008 22:44
superhobo
@glentennis: Points for incorrect usage of the word "fluke".

Just so you know, it actually means "an accidental stroke of luck". Which, actually, I guess home might have?
Corak's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/09/2008 22:45
Corak
While Home does interest me somewhat, if for nothing else than an area to display my trophes, I doubt I'll be spending a lot of time there. Walking around meeting people in a virtual world seems so sad to me. I'd much rather go out with real life friends and maybe meet some people in, you know, real life. If the service remains free I can suffer the ads. If they start charging and I'm still bombarded with ads I'll spend even less time there, or swear it off entirely. And there is no way in hell I'm spending real world money to decorate my virtual home. What I would really like, above all else, is for Sony to keep the games coming out.
Doomtrain's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/09/2008 22:49
Doomtrain
@superhobo

You have been promoted to UberGrammarFührer.
BluDesign's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/09/2008 23:01
BluDesign
I like the concept of shared media. That runs about the gamut of my love for the service. The fact that I can invite you guys into my "Home" and we all watch titty-bikini movies from the 80's.

That's what Home is to me.
pedrovay2003's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/09/2008 23:08
pedrovay2003
@superhobo

It's also the fin of a whale. He was really using it wrong.

As for Home, I'm excited about what it's going to bring to the table. After watching that video you guys have up a while ago about inviting friends straight into game scenarios, I was more excited than ever.

Also, as far as simplicity goes, I think you'll still be able to just use the regular XMB to make things much faster. I'll probably be using that more often than anything else.
Volomon's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/09/2008 23:13
Volomon
Lost me half way through, I think someone is lieing and plays more Second Life than he admits. Its pure speculation based on Second Life and not Home.
Dan CiTi's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/09/2008 23:17
Dan CiTi
It'll be better than XBL and free. I don't have a problem.
Alexradl's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/09/2008 23:26
Alexradl
Home definitely has potential. I'm more looking forward to the features that Home will bring, rather than the actual 'service' itself. The advertising could become a problem, but in the end, it ensures that the service remains free. As long as they don't go overboard with the advertising, I'll be fine. I'm still relatively excited for Home despite the numerous delays. I guess we'll see "this fall".
teach4food's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/09/2008 23:26
teach4food
Amen, nice write up. What if Home was being geared especially for kids? I fear Home
Fugue's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/09/2008 23:29
Fugue
Wow, looking at those screenshots it's hard to understand how anyone could not be excited about Home....
Leathersoup's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/09/2008 23:31
Leathersoup
@Superhobo. I think perhaps he was referring to the fish. :)

Let's see how that works in context...

"i say its better than nothing. in fact, its a lot better than nothing. it will have its flatfishes, just because its impossible to make something like this without flatfishes, but it will still be enjoyable, not to mention free."

Yup! Makes sense to me :D
necrozen's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/09/2008 23:34
necrozen
I think Home sounds cool. I like the idea of wondering around and all that. And I probably won't buy custom stuff but I actually don't mind the marketing. Years of television have tempered my selective vision. I guess I just don't see the negative in an optional free interface meeting ground. I mean, if it sucks I'll just delete but for now I'm excited about trying it out.
BlackSunEmpire's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/09/2008 23:35
BlackSunEmpire
@Dan

Out of interest, how long do you expect it to stay free for??
mbalz es hari's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/09/2008 23:58
mbalz es hari
@BlackSunEmpire

Sounds like someone is a little bitter about paying for Xbox Live.
Tet's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2008 00:34
Tet
I think I'm missing something. What the hell is the point of this?
Maybe I'm just missing it since every MMORPG I've played I go "oh, I got a house I can decorate", put a potted plant up, then never return there again.
Dusty Gozongas's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2008 00:45
Dusty Gozongas
@Tet

Same here. I don't understand any of the enthusiasm Home. It's as pointless as second life, but even more so in that you cant actually do anything. It's merely a cumbersome way to chat with people seeing as how you have to move your character around to look at things rather than skim a dashboard page or press a few buttons/clicks of a mouse. And since when was looking at other people's trophies and achievements anything more than a waste of time that you inevitably regret 5 minutes later? Only this time, you have to move an awkwardly dressed/nerdy digital avatar around to see them. I'm usually all for being nerdy, but this is crossing the boundary into incredibly lame.
Dusty Gozongas's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2008 00:49
Dusty Gozongas
And since when are penis avatars not hilarious?
The Amazing Shenazin's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2008 00:59
The Amazing Shenazin
why am I getting a Snowcrash vibe?
DarkTravesty's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2008 01:08
DarkTravesty
don't worry your not missing much
hpv's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2008 01:49
hpv
Doomtrain: Is that a gold trophy?
ParaParaKing's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2008 01:54
ParaParaKing
Wait, since when are people thinking home will be a great thing? Yeah, it has avatars running around and stuff, but gamers don't need that.

Also if you don't like the clutter, don't use home. It's not like it will be mandatory to use home anyway. And if you need extra quick access, there is in-game XMB now.
JohnKeats's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2008 02:12
JohnKeats
anyone seen google lively?

its quite similar to home.
coffeesash's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2008 02:39
coffeesash
It's just a program you run and you don't have to run it. I might just play it a bit for the Sims/Animal Crossing decorate your 2 million dollar apartment thingy then occasionally arrange games there. That's all it's for, if you're canny.
Sheyon's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2008 03:41
Sheyon
I'm forced to login every few months when I read an extremely stupid post, to inform the writer that they are an utter noob.

You ma'am, are an utter noob.

And no, you're not a guy, anymore.
The Faux-Bot's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2008 05:12
The Faux-Bot
Hahaha, he said noob. How hip.
Timmeh's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2008 05:50
Timmeh
Ooh a 3D menu. With adverts. Wow.

I fail to see where exactly this becomes the revolutionary application everyone seems to think it is?
Qraze's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2008 06:03
Qraze
no joe dirt references? i know, you like to see homos in the naked.
casualweaponry's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2008 06:15
casualweaponry
I'm a PS3 owner, and I just don't see the excitement about Home.

And the Live menu complaints are a little ridiculous, aren't they? It makes no sense to complain about flipping through Live's menus when the PS3 UI was so slowwwww and unresponsive for so long.

Hell, we PS3 owners just got XMB, and I remember PS3 owners practically begging for background downloading. Home is the wrong direction for the PS3 to be heading in.

Menus > 3D avatars.
PixelJunky's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2008 06:45
PixelJunky
@casualweponry - no offense but you sound biased too.

Home isn't really meant for everyone....can't you see where this appeals to girls more? It entails dressing, buying, socializing, etc..... This is meant to appeal to a group of gamers that aren't part of the hardcore, which you and I certainly are a part of. There is no excitement for us really in the basic Home function, the specialized rooms set up by Insomniac or Ingoc are where we'll be going to set up strategy's for our clans. Personally I think Home is neat, but I'm sure I won't spend much time in it. There are sure to be people that spend LOTS of time in it though.
Takeshi's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2008 07:05
Takeshi
Nice one DarkTravesty, I don't think anyone looked at your picture though. I bet if you showed a picture with you holding a Smoking Robot (yes you can get that in Home!) everyone would say it's great. People are so fucking biased.

@PixelJunky
"This is meant to appeal to a group of gamers that aren't part of the hardcore, which you and I certainly are a part of."

Thank you sir, you just made me puke my guts out.
Attro's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2008 07:18
Attro
I never thought Home sounded like a good idea to begin with but to hear that people are actually excited about it is confounding. Wait. Maybe 'excited' is too strong a word. To hear that people 'noticed that it was delayed' is confounding.

I've always thought Home was just a trojan horse to get marketing for sony's 'brands and partners' onto the TV's of their key demographic. (I'm thinking the 'key demographic' in this case would be idiots who want to dress up a Mii and walk it around a Disney version of Second Life chatting with other idiots about how much they hate playing videogames on their $400 console.)
casualweaponry's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2008 07:58
casualweaponry
@PixelJunky
No offense taken. I didn't really mean to come off as a fanboy though.

I was just pointing out some inconsistencies in Brad's posting. Brad states that Live's ads are intrusive, then turns around and mentions that Home will probably do the same thing, only in 3D. Honestly, what sounds more intrusive: a Live menu ad (or Steam for that matter), or a 3D avatar? Protip: one is more avoidable than the other.

I see Home's appeal, especially with the War Room, video sharing, and other social aspects. But I don't see casual players buying a PS3 for it, especially with Second Life and Google's offering now available. They rather waggle with their Mii's I suppose, if you follow current sales stats.

Like I said, I'm a PS3 owner. I spend a lot of time navigating through Live, Steam, and the PS3 UI. I find Live to be the least obtrusive of the three. Steam's pop-ups are annoying, and I find the PS3 to be not as snappy as Live or Steam. The PS3 really needs to concentrate on making XMB the best it can be, rather than copy Second Life
loki d20's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2008 08:14
loki d20
I agree that your article is pure speculation and based on the stories from Second Life. Honestly, the only 'advertised' clothing you'll see in Home is if it's from something like Rock Band. Furniture and stuff will just be generic stuff, not specific models with hotlinks to actual retailers or anything of that sort.

And, even then, Home is and will always remain optional. You're not losing your sleek, non-advertisement laden, accessible, quick XMB.
Demtor's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2008 08:24
Demtor
Yeah, I love my PS3 too but Home is hardly the reason I bought it. I want to play games, not rearrange furniture. If I wanted to do that I'd play Sims.

I'm confused though, is Home going to replace what the PSN is now? If so, why would they do that? That's completely asinine. At least give people a fucking choice instead of just taking away their options.
Joe Burling's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2008 08:48
Joe Burling
I'm a PS3 owner and Home sounds... boring.
miquonranger03's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2008 09:04
miquonranger03
I bought the 1-year subscription to home for 24.99. And so far, I really like it. And an interactive version of that (despite the ads) would be pretty cool. But this feels a little vapor-y...
Tet's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2008 09:06
Tet
Wow, pics/videos of Destructoid AND smoking robots? That changes everything.

My "bias" is the thought that gamers sitting at their gaming machines during their gaming time might not be that interested in wandering a 3d chatroom located in a mall as they would be, oh I don't know, playing games.
GunSlap's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2008 10:01
GunSlap
Speaking of handling it like google, google recently released a similar browser based system. If your into this sort of avitar chat thing:

http://www.lively.com
Shinu's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2008 10:12
Shinu
Home feels like a waste of time to me.
Ocified-Xboxer's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2008 10:26
Ocified-Xboxer
I would like to take you seriously, but the insane amount of bullshit flung at XBL is just petty. You don't flip through numerous ads before you get to what you want, and if you really have that much trouble finding what you want, you might be totally fucking retarded.

This is why you suck. Instead of writing what your concearn is, you take every step to shit on what you aren't talking about.

Anyone who actually owns a 360 and has it connected to an internet connection knows you fail. I'm shocked this was even allowed on the front page with is fanboyish bile packed to the tee.
Joe Burling's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2008 10:27
Joe Burling
The purpose of Home is for Sony to provide a way to make advertising money, which in turn will help them keep PSN free. They are trying to hype us all up about a bunch of advertisements, but are putting a "virtual world" spin on it, and people are actually eating this shit up.

There are things I'm interested in about it: 1) Virtual Events. 2) Streaming media in your apartment. 3) Nothing else
Niero's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2008 10:54
Niero
I think the younger crowd will eat it up. I mean, it can't be worse than ZWINKY right?
Josh Tolentino's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2008 11:23
Josh Tolentino
But is Home the only way to access the PSN?
mistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2008 11:28
mistic
I hope it'll be cool, but the truth is, users are great at destroying something fabulous... just look at XBlive :-)
Rifter01's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2008 11:35
Rifter01
I would buy a PS3 for Home if it is better than Second Life.

It already looks better, but, since I can't demo it or play it yet.. I'll be waiting to see.
fetusmilk's Avatar - Comment posted on 07/10/2008 11:41
fetusmilk
they need to make something in Home where you can hook/stream your cable to your PS3 and watch TV with your Home avatar in your online Home living room. that would blow my mind.
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