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If you've been following all the talk surrounding potential subscription fees for the PlayStation Network, then this is a very hot story indeed. A brand new market survey has revealed Sony's ideas for the seemingly inevitable premium subscription, and some of the ideas are shockingly good, with a range of benefits that may be worth a fee after all. 

Such considerations include one-hour game trials, exclusive in-game content and, most intriguing of all, unrestricted access to the PSOne Classics and Minis store, allowing subscribers to get whatever PSOne games they like for no additional charge. The long-awaited cross-game chat has also been named as a potential premium service, available only to subscribers.

Other bonuses under consideration include music sharing, loyalty rewards, discounts, a music service and much, much more. Three subscription models have been revealed, costing $69.99 a year, with a cheaper one running for $29.99 a year. 

None of this is set in stone, and is merely stuff that Sony is considering. However, there is some promising potential here that could lead to a true premium service, unlike Xbox Live, which merely gives the illusion of premium content by offering things that should be free in the first place. Check out the survey for all of Sony's ideas and let us know if any of it's worth paying for in your estimation.

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ran24's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2009 10:44
ran24
Hmmm, if there is unlimited PSOne access plus discounts on other PSN titles, the subscription may be worth it.
ran24's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2009 10:46
ran24
After looking at all the options, Option 2 is the only one worth a damn.
Cahuatijo's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2009 10:46
Cahuatijo
PSN should have never been free, just look at the way MS handled the MW2 bullshit vs. Sony; Sony just doesn't have the money MS fleeced from us but does Live need to cost $50 and be littered with ads and useless fictitious benefits and content? Definitely not, $30 bucks sounds more like it, go Sony.
Chibi_Zero's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2009 10:48
Chibi_Zero
Somehow I doubt we'll see something like unrestricted access to PSOne titles. At best I could see a discount or unrestricted access to a select number of titles. And I don't really like the idea of exclusive in-game content or cross game chats as premium service.
Videodrone31's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2009 11:26
Videodrone31
@Cahuatijo- just curious what you mean by how Sony handled the mw2 fiasco. I have both consoles and I recieved the update for the javelin glitch 2 days earlier on the psn. Perhaps you should know what your typing about before you type it?
X V1's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2009 11:29
X V1
@Videodrone

He meant that Sony did nothing to discourage cheaters, MS banned the glichters.

Aaand.. Cloud game storage is a great idea IMO.
mistic's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2009 11:30
mistic
70$ for unlimited PSOne Access? I'm in from day one!
kgbdarkday's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2009 11:30
kgbdarkday
Well, I pay for Qcore now, so I hope one of the subscription has it packed in there. I would love to see the ps3 themes for free or cheaper too.
shinryu's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2009 11:30
shinryu
wow, it all sounded great until I read the part about cross-game chat. I dunno if I'd personally pay for all those services, but it sounds really good on paper. I mean, I would totally pay for a month's subscription just to try out a bunch of games I'm on the fence about. Including PSOne classics.
Elsa's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2009 11:30
Elsa
I don't think cross game chat should be a premium service... at least not unless their internal QA system ensures that ingame chat actually works for ALL games (Sacred 2, BF1943 - neither of these games got fixed and voice chat fails).

On the rest of it... I'd probably opt for a subscription... particularly for the one hour game trials.
Balaamsafe's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2009 11:31
Balaamsafe
As long as they take no feaures away then i guess it's ok. Charging for cross game chat is a dick move through, as it will only really be useful if everybody has it.
Holyetheline's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2009 11:33
Holyetheline
Maybe Microsoft will learn some things from Sony about how an online service should be.
Cahuatijo's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2009 11:34
Cahuatijo
It's not about the update, that's on IW's end, man. It's about the service; MS was actively punishing those profiting, while Sony wasn't and publicly said it did not care. Because Live is paid, they can afford the man hours and resources to hunt down people spoiling the game for others, while Sony cannot readily do that. So I really thought I knew what I was typing about, sorry to bother you like that.
pascuz46's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2009 11:36
pascuz46
Jim....Did I sense a hint of Xbox Bias in this article....I think I did!

Naw just kidding.

As for people talking about the MW2 fiasco. In Sony's defense the leader boards have been cleaned up for about a week now. And that patch came out, also lag is not really much of an issue.
ParaParaKing's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2009 11:36
ParaParaKing
I would pay totally $70 for unlimited Mini and PSOne access.
Maeloch's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2009 11:36
Maeloch
@Videodrone31 - Cahuajitp was talking about MS taking action against users who used the glitch before a patch was available.

I think this is a great move by Sony. I hope that this forces MS to follow suit. I am personally a fan of the Xbox 360, but if a friend asked me what to buy right now, I would have to recommend the PS3 because it is a better deal.
EpicPenguin's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2009 11:36
EpicPenguin
Yeah, cross game chat should be free. If I'm the only one that buys a subscription service, then the feature's useless. Otherwise, all the extra features look sweet, especially the discounts on PS Store stuff.
Trev's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2009 11:40
Trev
Netflix w/o the disc, trophy updates (whatever that is beyond now) and automatic downloads and updates shouldn't be premium, but the rest of that is stuff I would actually subscribe to. Qore should just show up in my download queue as it is.

Assuming on the positive side for the vague features: Guaranteed beta access to whatever I want, one hour demos of any title, the ability to share demos with friends, discounts, exclusive content and unlimited access to themes, ps1 and minis... this is what I call a subscription service.
super2j's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2009 11:40
super2j
i think that cross game should be free or atleast in the lowest price point, that is if voice chat enabled in games still work. And IF they have to introduce the premium thing will i have to pay for a whole year? Because there will some months where paying 9.99 for the one month is perfect. I mean when modern warfare 3 comes out i will want this that month, but when its the dry season for games, i could care less.
RonBurgandy2010's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2009 11:40
RonBurgandy2010
Seems a little steep. They better reduce the price and give me a free handjob.
Lakai's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2009 11:41
Lakai
Got me with unlimited ps1 access.
The White Light's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2009 11:41
The White Light
Most of those ideas sounds pretty great. The exception is the exclusive in-game content. Seriously, fuck that with a stick. The last thing we need is one more way we will need to pay to get more of a game. Between pre-order exclusives, DLC, and first-time-purchase redemption codes, I think we already have more than enough.
Dale North's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2009 11:42
Dale North
i'd be all about the unlimited ps1 shits- SO HOT
RenegadePanda's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2009 11:43
RenegadePanda
Can everyone (Jim) shut the hell up about the 'illusion of Xbox Live' Half (no, almost all of it) the shit PSN is offering in their subscription is IN Xbox Live, but suddenly it has more value on Playstation? Game chat, music service, exclusive content, discounts and game trials; its all in Xbox Live. Christ, people are stupid.

So, what, 30 extra dollars a year might get me PSOne Classics for free, which I'll agree might make it worthwhile if they do it. But wading through a sea of DRM seems likely. Just look at XBLA/GoD games on the 360. But if that feature isn't in there, then this is far too expensive. Everything else is included in my XBL subscription, which is far more useful to me.

Loyalty rewards would be interesting too.
ScottyG's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2009 11:46
ScottyG
Oh, that doesn't sound too bad. I'm just thankful there's no mention of charging for things that are already free. :)

tbh though if I had a PS3 to go along with my 360, I wouldn't pay a fee for both. Ignoring which friends I have on which console though what's mentioned there for the PS3 would probably win out. :)
stewie32887's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2009 11:46
stewie32887
I could care less about most of that stuff, but the Minis and PSOne access would be huge for me. Hope they include that, as otherwise I'd find it to be kind of a waste of money.
Insanity-Oo's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2009 11:49
Insanity-Oo
I'd go for the free ps1 games, but they need to update their ps1 store more often.
Markusdragon's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2009 11:49
Markusdragon
About time; If Sony can build an online service to rival Xbox Live, then the competition between the two will lower prices and drive innovation and progress, which is great news for gamers all round.

And it only took them, what, nearly a decade to catch on?
dtomek's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2009 11:49
dtomek
I'm going to go ahead and take a shot in the dark and say that none of those things will prove fiscally viable and won't see the light of day. Excepting the game trials and in game content. Also cross game chat. It'd be pretty amazing if that stuff makes it through the though.
Miguelcar808's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2009 11:50
Miguelcar808
You had me at PS1...
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2009 11:50
Sexualchocolate
If it's less than £10 a month and you get any of those things. I'm signing up.

THIS is the kind of shit you charge a subscription for, not online gaming.
Ganjookie's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2009 11:51
Ganjookie
69.99 for unlimited PSOne downloads..I'm game for that alone. Include X-chat and other stuff and its well worth the price IMO.
KrazyKraut's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2009 11:51
KrazyKraut
ehm....can i have a mix of option 2 and option 3 plz?
Ibutsu's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2009 11:51
Ibutsu
Do not want...
king kong five's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2009 11:53
king kong five
Huh. I'm actually pleasantly surprised.

Though I'd like to know what exactly they mean by "exclusive in-game content"...
Ganjookie's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2009 11:54
Ganjookie
I should say that I like the idea of the X-chat being charged for, as it will reduce the number of D-bag kiddies on there, hopefully.
Sentry's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2009 11:58
Sentry
I'd absolutely pay money for some of those services. How much a subscription costs, however, will of course determine how I recognize the value.
Videodrone31's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2009 11:58
Videodrone31
@everyone talking about the banning. If Sony were to ban you all you have to do is create a new acount for "FREE". If MS bans you then you have to pay to take a new acount online. It doesn't make sense to ban people from psn when it's easy to make a new one. What Sony did fo was fix the PROBLEM days before the paid live service.
EpicPenguin's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2009 11:58
EpicPenguin
@Ganjookie: Why would you cross game chat with people you don't want to talk to?
Spectreman's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2009 12:00
Spectreman
* If all the premium content is region free I in.
father33's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2009 12:01
father33
beta access and catch up tv are good. the rest really doesn't/won't apply to me. well.. maybe the extended warranty if it's extended to folks who already own a ps3.
darknil's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2009 12:02
darknil
Option 2 is veeery good, just hope the X-chat should be free as is it a part in multiplayer gaming nowadays.

Cloud storage seems huge.. it could go horribly wrong or just perfect, you must say that Sony seems to thin this seriously and hopefully doesn't rush stuff.
Steve Cebu's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2009 12:02
Steve Cebu
I can see that they'd offer free PSOne games, but it will probably be limited to certain titles each month. You might be able to get 4-5 titles a month or something. I guess it's an ok value when you consider than many of those games have been dead for a long time. 10 year old games just aren't worth that much nor do they cost very much so it makes sense that they'd do it.
The part that really is interesting is free gameplay which is essentially a demo. To be honest it would have to be a lot more than the 3-4 a week they currently have which could mean they kill the other demos and offer it as a premium. That would be stupid! I am a big fan of demo's. I have bought games I never would have considered otherwise and bailed on a few I thought I'd like.
I'd probably never log into PSN if it didn't have demos and I will not pay for them.
They are going to some degree copy Xbox Live and I don't care for that.
I buy my games on a disc, when they stop doing that I will still buy games but significantly fewer games.
Also the issue with the HDD, if you buy it, it's only for that one HDD so you're screwed if you upgrade. No thanks!
Harris Hatsworth's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2009 12:04
Harris Hatsworth
I hope that there's a window where somebody (lets use the initials M.E.) could sign up for a month, download multiple PSN games for free and then not continue after the initial month.

Seriously, I wonder if that will be a concern and they'll do something to link premium downloads to premium membership or if they'll just figure enough people will stick with it.
FunkzillaBOT's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2009 12:04
FunkzillaBOT
Why are there 4 options? Couldn't they simply combine the $69.99 into a Gold, and $29.99 would be the Basic? Wouldn't THAT make more sense? Having 4 options with nit-picky services all over the place, is just annoying and silly.

I mean, Sony talks a lot, charges a lot, promise the moon, and delivers NOTHING. When the PS3 can't even play the standard start-up jingle anymore... information like this just goes in one ear and out the other.
JulianProxy's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2009 12:04
JulianProxy
Some of these seem kind of strange. Don't we already have Facebook connectivity? Taking that away and making it a pay feature would probably anger people that liked it. I do wonder what additional features they may be adding in lieu of removing current offerings there. I have avoided Facebook thus far, so I could be way off.

What are Trophy Alerts? If it's an alert when a friend gets a trophy, I do no see that as a value for my money. Netflix access without a disc also seems kind of weird as a paid service, since the disc is free in the first place. Maybe there's money to be made on laziness.

I do wonder what the difference between online play and User-to-user Challenges is.

Also, what is cloud storage for games? Isn't that called my download list on PSN? I would most likely need the entire game on my local hard drive to play effectively, so storing it in the cloud when I'm not using it seems silly. Maybe the game will get streamed to users instead. Imagine streaming the game engine and regular artifacts for FFVIII immediately. Then stream the FMV sequences. Then, it's random encounter time. Haven't encountered this enemy? Stream it too. Yuck!

Some of the features that do sound neat are the beta games, discounts, Mini/PSOne subscriptions (I'd buy mine to keep, but it does provide an actual value added for people that don't care to buy theirs). I also like the one hour game trials, since so many games don't come with demos. Hopefully, that doesn't kill demos. Online music and video service is also a really good fit for PSN.

That's my initial impressions of that list.
Ninjasnake's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2009 12:04
Ninjasnake
I think this sounds great. It actually makes me want to pay for it rather then xbox live where I'm not sure exactly what I'm getting special for paying for it.
Mr Andy Dixon's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2009 12:04
Mr Andy Dixon
So I'm assuming the yearly fee would be to "rent" the PSone and Mini games, and that if you let your subscription lapse you'd lose your access?

It's an interesting idea, I just foresee it being a DRM nightmare.
DaedHead8's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2009 12:04
DaedHead8
I wonder if you'll be allowed to keep all the PSone titles you downloaded after your subscription ran out, probably not. If they did allow us to keep any games we downloaded, I'd be all over this like a fat kid on a twinkie.
Black Nexus's Avatar - Comment posted on 12/18/2009 12:09
Black Nexus
considering I blew over 100$ on psn and theres still stuff I want that might be worth it( actually it would be worth it id save at least 30$) , but the ultimate price of the thing would be the determining factor. still kinda of urked about paying but I hate doing without even more, and that price tag is a bit high.
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