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Sony removes intrusive WipEout HD advert  photo

Last night, we talked about WipEout HD's latest patch, which included a few nasty surprises for those wanting to play the new "Fury" content. In-game ads had been smuggled onto the game, which ordinarily wouldn't be a problem -- that is, until it came to light that the ads were increasing loading times, forcing the game to slow down so that paying customers could be marketed to.

While a few people claimed this wasn't the case and that I was just a dirty biased liar with all the fat bias making biased mountains out of biased molehills, it seems that one entity agrees with me that these ads were not acceptable -- Sony itself. The platform holder has actually done something decent for a change, and removed the offending ad that was causing loading times to double. 

"The ad has been removed from WipEout HD and we are investigating the situation to ensure that any in-game advertising does not affect gameplay," said a Sony spokesman. 

Wow, I'm actually impressed. No advert should ever affect gameplay, and it's great to see that Sony agrees and would actually listen to irate consumers on this count. That said, this nonsense with WipEout HD could be a grim harbinger of the marketing rape coming our way in future.


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gains's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/04/2009 09:29
gains
Good. But once the advertisers are willing to pay more for the privilege, then Sony WILL allow them to slow down our games with flash-advert billboards. You know it in your heart to be true.
NostalGeek's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/04/2009 09:29
NostalGeek
that didn't take long.
i think they felt the fire
Crdhous3DR3AM3R's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/04/2009 09:30
Crdhous3DR3AM3R
Yea that entire situation was disgusting. Advertising like this would be a deal-breaker for me when purchasing a game. Hopefully all this will amount to is a failed experiment... One can dream right?
Onlineatron's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/04/2009 09:31
Onlineatron
Was that directed at moi?
Black Nexus's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/04/2009 09:34
Black Nexus
So everyone who made a mountain out of a molehill gonna buy the game right? I expect to see a few names during my venture into eliminator tonight.

But it is nice to see that some devs actually pay attention to the message boards.
Onlineatron's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/04/2009 09:34
Onlineatron
I'm still a firm believe that if a game cost £20 (included an almost full on sequel like expansion) then some marketing during the loading screens doesn't matter (unlike Bionic Commando and it's full £40 price tag with intrusive in-game ads!)

However I failed to see the point of your previous entry, I did not realise that the adverts themselves were increasing load times and I apologise for sounding like a self-righteous dick hole.
Cuba Gooding Jr's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/04/2009 09:34
Cuba Gooding Jr
I'm all for in-game advertising if it actually adds something to the game (Snake's ipod, licensed guns in shooters, etc.). State Farm adverts in the world of Wipeout, however, makes no sense at all.
Dreamsower's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/04/2009 09:38
Dreamsower
That is nice of them to move so quickly to remove it. I don't understand how not caring about an ad in my game made me condone companies whoring out games.

It still is nice to see that Sony is willing to listen to consumer comlaints still.
Waquan's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/04/2009 09:40
Waquan
Just for the fact that they attempted something like this irks me enough! I'd rather invest my money in Gran Turismo or Forza, franchises that have evolved immensely from one iteration to the next, unlike Wipeout which has changed at all!
Doos's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/04/2009 09:41
Doos
I just played Fight Night 4 for the first time since the patch. Thanks for all the fucking GI JOE adds, EA. You dicks.
Niero's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/04/2009 09:42
Niero
I find it a little unsettling that ads that have no contextual relevance would appear in a paid game.
DaedHead8's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/04/2009 09:42
DaedHead8
This is great news. It looks like I'll be downloading this game afterall. =D
Onlineatron's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/04/2009 09:44
Onlineatron
@Waquan

Errr, WipEout HD is an amazing game and I feel sorry for you if you won't give it a shot.

The game is £13 and has more features then some full price games!
Waquan's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/04/2009 10:00
Waquan
@onlinetron
lol, that was sarcasm.
Rational Animal's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/04/2009 10:04
Rational Animal
"No advert should ever affect gameplay..."

Couldn't agree more. You can put as many ads in my games as you want, so long as it doesn't take away from the game itself. As soon as it becomes noticeably detrimental to the experience, shenanigans must be called.
benus's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/04/2009 10:09
benus
so boycott actualy works ...

sad
benus's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/04/2009 10:11
benus
i mean sad we have to do this in the first place
Midgetsnowman's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/04/2009 10:12
Midgetsnowman
@Benus: yeah, god forbid the customer have the right to complain.
GoldenGamerXero's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/04/2009 10:17
GoldenGamerXero
I'm glad they changed it. Ads are ok for things like destructoid because the site is free to vist. If you're going to make people pay for something then at least don't add in awkward ads.
Jon B's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/04/2009 10:33
Jon B
Sony's awesome points +1
Sexualchocolate's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/04/2009 10:33
Sexualchocolate
I've just been reading the inernet RAGE about Fight Night... What the deuce? I've been enjoying Fight Night over the weekend, and now i'm expecting to go home to a game smothered with adverts! How fucking dare they?!?!

Surely when you buy a product, they can't make detrimental changes to that product AFTER you've bought it? Right?

I mean, I paid that money for Fight Night in the state it was in last week, now the game is smothered with adverts and if it's as bad as it sounds, to me, it's not going to be worth what I paid for it! So, uh EA, I want my fucking money back!

It's like buying a car then a week later the car makers coming to your house in the night and plastering your new car with their adverts - it's not fucking on! That's your's, you've bought it as it is, in game's it's as the reveiwers said it was and then AFTER you've paid they've fucking changed it for the worse.

i mean adding such a detrimental aspect of the game AFTER REVIEWERS WROTE THEIR REVIEWS is fucking wrong.

This is not fucking on. Our hobby has been fucking hijacked by greedy capitalist advert-throat-ramming cocksuckers.
Adrock's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/04/2009 10:34
Adrock
Cool. Good to hear Sony removed the offending ad. But does that mean there's still advertising in the game that makes no sense in the world of Wipeout? (just not ads that cause longer load times?)

Intrusive ads like this really piss me off. I have a (healthy) disdain for advertising and the excesses of consumer capitalism in general, and I don't want the bad aspects of the system to invade the gaming medium, which I love. I really hope companies responsible for placing advertising in games take care to do it in a way that's not intrusive. If they loose more money from people not buying their products than they make from the advertisers, this shit will stop. Please don't support companies that make you pay for them to try to sell you crap (that you don't need) while making your gaming experiences shitty.
Qraze's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/04/2009 10:35
Qraze
good. i haven't played wipeout since the last patch so it never affected me. i don't mind an add at a load screen as long as it don't affect gameplay like this one did. it is the future of gaming, companies can't rely on the consumer to buy their shitty games so they gotta get funding from shady advertisers.

this industry is fuct. capitalism here we come (and after its failed).
BluDesign's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/04/2009 10:38
BluDesign
I'm still rooting for Trojan condom ads in God of War 3.

Ooo, what about raid bug spray for gears of war?
Onlineatron's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/04/2009 10:42
Onlineatron
@benus

What boycott?!
A few insignificant gamers complaining in a comments section?! How is that a Boycott... I don't know about you, but after I read the article I jumped straight on my PS3 to play some WipEout HD multiplayer!

The adverts only went up in the past couple of days so I'm it was just an unforeseen problem that as soon as Sony saw it they started to fix it.
whatisdelicious's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/04/2009 10:46
whatisdelicious
Dude, I'm happy about this in the sense that the load times will be a bit faster now, but Jesus Christ people blew that shit out of proportion. People act like they were shoving the ad down their throat, but it just played, inoffensively, without making too much noise or even being too obvious that it was an ad until the last second, and then you started your race.

Fuck, I bet most of you up in arms like babies don't even own Wipeout HD.
froman46992's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/04/2009 11:08
froman46992
i love wipeout and in game ads pissed me the f off that ad always popped up it took 2 times longer to load and it was a cool ad but should just stay out of a game i pay hard earned $ for
Vegas's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/04/2009 11:13
Vegas
@whatisdelicious

You don't have to own Wipeout HD to be upset by this style of advertising; if people don't respond companies will think it's ok to do things like this.

Also, those damn ads WERE being "shoved down my throat", the loading time went from under 10 sec to 20 JUST because they wanted people to watch the ad in its entirety, and in a game those people spent $30 dollars on.
whatisdelicious's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/04/2009 11:26
whatisdelicious
@Vegas: I'm not saying that it's wrong to make sure this kind of stuff doesn't get abused, but the people acting like these ads are the worst things in the world and calling for a boycott of the entire game is just ridiculous. My guess is that most of these people have no idea what these ads were really like because I'm betting that the most vigilant people complaining don't even own Wipeout HD and are just basing their entire opinion on Jim Sterling's word.

And while I did notice the load times were a bit longer during the advertisement sections, (I don't know about totally doubling the time unless you comparing times for restarted races since those load really quickly), the load times in this game are still so quick compared to most games that it's really not a big deal.

And that's my biggest problem here. It's not a big deal. Calling for a boycott on Wipeout HD due to this ad was a completely ridiculous response.

Again, I'm glad they're gone, but seriously. Let's have a little control here. We don't need to max out our Internet Nerd Rage every time ANYTHING even slightly offends us. Let's save it for something more worthwhile.
Dizzy's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/04/2009 11:40
Dizzy
Score one for Sony. Though i wouldn't be pissed as such, it would irritate me to no end if i had to sit through that myself.
atastysammich's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/04/2009 11:47
atastysammich
Don't you mean "marketing Platinum...ness?"
Chronic Logic's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/04/2009 11:58
Chronic Logic
Damn, that was pretty quick. Guess news spreads through the interwebs quick.
brainderailment's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/04/2009 12:01
brainderailment
They'll just put ads into games before they launch so we have no load times to compare. Fuckers
SantanaClaus89's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/04/2009 12:15
SantanaClaus89
Now if you guys could just get ads out of your xbox 360 dashboard all would be right in the world, amirite?
rsquad's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/04/2009 13:15
rsquad
Awesome. This game is the shit. Super-happy they put the kibosh on this nonsense so quickly. StateFarm in WipEout? Makes no sense.

BTW, I really didn't appreciate all the Snickers adverts in the Madden 2010 demo either.
BS3 Owner's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/04/2009 13:23
BS3 Owner
State Farm accident collision insurance.
For a vehicle that doesn't exist. Come On Sony WTF???!!!
Crdhous3DR3AM3R's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/04/2009 15:08
Crdhous3DR3AM3R
@santanaclaus

Ads on the 360 dashboard don't delay anything. Nor do they tarnish a games experience.
Steel Brotha's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/04/2009 15:18
Steel Brotha
@ Crdhous3DR3AM3R

that's not what all of my friends with 360s say.
cimerians's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/04/2009 15:51
cimerians
Thank god....I would not have bought this game if it had ads in it. Its coming though....the big rape is coming.

At that point I will be even more selective of what I buy. In other words ads=no game for me. I have plenty.
Crdhous3DR3AM3R's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/04/2009 16:11
Crdhous3DR3AM3R
@steelbrotha

Your so called "friends" with 360s are full of shit then. It takes nothing more than a flick of the joystick to skip over an ad. What was tried in Wipeout was ridiculous. If you disagree you're either a fanboy, or a fucking retard.
reploidx's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/04/2009 17:36
reploidx
@whatisdelicious
Did you see the delay from the ads? It's not load time, it's forcing you to watch the whole ad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kX4f9zts6JM

If they can't cover development costs and they're honest about it, either charge more or offer a version with no ads that costs more.

WipEout XL/2027 had Red Bull ads which fit with the game and did not affect gameplay. If they put effort into it and used appropriate companies, it could work well, but this does not work well.

I'm surprised there are so many people willing to put up with ads on products they've paid for. Why allow companies to pull crap like this, especially after people have already bought the product. Maybe it'd be ok for them to disable a feature and say, well, you have to pay now to get that feature back.
Steel Brotha's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/04/2009 22:02
Steel Brotha
@ Crdhous3DR3AM3R a.k.a. Radical Fanboy
"Your so called "friends" with 360s are full of shit then. It takes nothing more than a flick of the joystick to skip over an ad.
What was tried in Wipeout was ridiculous. If you disagree you're either a fanboy, or a fucking retard."

whoa come down bud. I never said what they tried with WipeOut Fury wasn't ridiculous. If you gonna start putting word in my mouth then your just gonna wind up looking like an idiot. Hell, I didn`t even put in MY opinion on Wipeout Fury. I was just saying the my buddies with 360s find it annoying to have to deal with ads in the first place. Maybe you don't but your not everyone. The way you jumped up to defend you console there made you look like a fanboy. Now I`m gonna go buy the game, after that maybe then you can yell at me for something else I didn`t say. Maybe next time you`ll read and UNDERSTAND comments before you go "ZOMG STEEL BROTHA MOAR 360 BIAS ZOMG"
Laird's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/04/2009 22:18
Laird
Looks like you're right, Black Nexus. There is no longer a difference in loading times.

Also, this is a blatant example of Jim's pro-Sony bias.
Steel Brotha's Avatar - Comment posted on 08/05/2009 13:47
Steel Brotha
yeah definetly grabbing this when I'm done with Valkyrie Chronicles.
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